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lehighmuskies
Posted 1/8/2011 8:20 AM (#474122)
Subject: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 348


im looking at purchasing a few hardheads for river fishing late in the fall.They look like they should have similar action to the way i fish my bulldawgs but i think theyll hold up better.How has success been since these came out?Has anyone had good luck with them on a river setting?I dont wanna pay 30 a bait,if there just hype.They look great on vide an the paint schemes look nice.Any help would be greatful
Team Rhino
Posted 1/8/2011 9:02 AM (#474127 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: Re: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 512


Location: Appleton
I just got myself 6 more the other day from Roger. I've fished with them for the past few seasons with good success. I mainly like how many different situations you can use the one bait. If you run the tail up it works shallow, tail down it works deeper. If you want even more depth just add weight to the screw inserts on the bait. Color combos are easy to change with the way the tail just screws on. Never had any issue with the construction of the baits either. Fun bait to play around with. Customer service from Roger is top notch 2.
Esox-Hunter
Posted 1/8/2011 10:24 AM (#474141 - in reply to #474127)
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Posts: 774


Location: South East Wisconsin
"Customer service from Roger is top notch 2." Agreed
dway
Posted 1/8/2011 2:30 PM (#474184 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: RE: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 107


Location: central illinois
I bought one late last year. It was responsible for most of my late fall fish last year. I'd say 8 out of the last 10 fish for the year. I can't wait until next year so I can use it all year long! When I go to the Chicago show, I will be purchasing at least two more. They hold up well I just have hook marks all over mine. It has a really thick coat of epoxy to it, they should last a long time. Except for the tail, you will need a couple extra.
ToddM
Posted 1/8/2011 4:21 PM (#474202 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: Re: hard heads likes dislikes?





Posts: 20219


Location: oswego, il
You would be bard pressed to find a nicer guy than Roger. Tail up/tail down and the different combinations of weights you can have front and rear makes this bait infinitely versatile. Toss in the belly wobble and you have one incredible bait!
MuskieSwede
Posted 1/8/2011 4:38 PM (#474205 - in reply to #474202)
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Posts: 245


Who make the Hardhead?!
It sound intressting but i cant find it...
Team Rhino
Posted 1/8/2011 5:05 PM (#474214 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 512


Location: Appleton
http://www.h2otackle.com/pages/pull-baits/hardhead.php

H2o Tackle
tech
Posted 1/8/2011 7:37 PM (#474259 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: RE: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 5


Get in touch with Roger, the hard heads are worth every penny. The action with these are awesome, i use mine as my search bait and have had a lot of big fish with mine.. mr. Bluegill with pearl tail... Great combo. Roger is a great guy to deal with. Good luck.
wers4455
Posted 1/8/2011 8:19 PM (#474272 - in reply to #474259)
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Posts: 415


Location: madison wisconsin
anyone know if they'll be at the milwaukee show? Hope so....
Team Rhino
Posted 1/8/2011 8:28 PM (#474276 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 512


Location: Appleton
I could be wrong but I don't think they are in Milwaukee. They will have a booth at Musky Magic in New London in March and Michigan musky show in February.
Team Rhino
Posted 1/8/2011 8:31 PM (#474278 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 512


Location: Appleton
Guess I'm wrong according to the Milwaukee Musky Expo website. Didn't see it listed on the H2o Tackle website
bridgeman
Posted 1/8/2011 8:32 PM (#474279 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 529


Location: Not Where I Want To Be
I believe Chicago also
h2os2t
Posted 1/9/2011 9:58 AM (#474332 - in reply to #474279)
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Posts: 941


Location: Freedom, WI
This year I will be at Chicago and the new Michigan show and Musky Magic. Milwaukee is a week after Michigan and not sure if I can get enough stuff done in time to do both, sleep is optional right. I have been known to roam around the Milwaukee show and go for Mama Mias pizza and garlic bread after though, my arteries are closing up in anticipation.
ToddM
Posted 1/9/2011 10:11 AM (#474337 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 20219


Location: oswego, il
Thanks Roger, now I am hungry!
Ryan Marlowe
Posted 1/9/2011 11:28 AM (#474353 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 143


Location: Lake of The Woods
Love the construction and the ability to adjust the bait. They are just startin to catch on in the upper half of LOTW.
fish4musky1
Posted 1/10/2011 12:09 PM (#474602 - in reply to #474122)
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Location: Northern Wisconsin
are they going to be sold out quickly or do you have alot?
h2os2t
Posted 1/10/2011 1:49 PM (#474627 - in reply to #474602)
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Posts: 941


Location: Freedom, WI
I have about 150 of them between 3 (mostly large ones)sizes. Website says 2 sizes but I made a couple of dozen small ones for the show (had some there last year). I will also paint one for you if I do not have what you want, I am sure I will be painting and building again the day after I get back.
curleytail
Posted 1/10/2011 8:20 PM (#474735 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I'd have to say I like everything about Hardheads, and haven't found anything I don't like!

You can do just about anything with them. They fish from just under the surface to as deep as you want. Early in the season when the fish are in shallow weeds, rigging one with just a little weight and the tail up and hopping it over and along weeds is money! Tail up gives the bait an awesome wobble on the pull and the pause. Later on as the water warms, turning the tail down with big weights front and back will get them deep and trigger strikes ripping them.

There have been several days when I couln't get fish going on standard rubber, but caught them on Hardheads. I don't even work for Roger (but I figure if I say enough nice things about his baits in public he'll give me one free someday...just kidding ). They hold up very well too. It's really surprising how many fish that tail can take before needing to be replaced. And when it finally is shot, it's only a couple bucks for a new one.

I would get at least one. You'll like it.

curleytail
muskie-addict
Posted 1/10/2011 8:52 PM (#474745 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: RE: hard heads likes dislikes?


This was my first year using them, but I very much like them. I started with one that a friend gave me, and that grew to 2, then to 4.......

Great bait, great guy. Fish seem to love them, so that ties the whole deal off in a neat little bow.

One thing I found is that you don't get many follows. Fish generally pound this bait, there is no question whether you had a strike or not. They absolutely kill it. And the good news is that if a fish pounds it head first or if you cast it for an entire year, the head holds together, unlike some other all-rubbers. If the tail gets zipped, screw a new one on for a couple bux.

As said, customer service is top notch, paint schemes are many, and the color combos are near endless when you start mixing and matching tails.

curleytail
Posted 1/10/2011 9:27 PM (#474753 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: Re: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
Muskie-addict is right. You usually just get smoked with these baits, not many follows. That tends to happen with me and rubber baits also, BUT what is nice about the Hardhead is the hooking percentage. If a Hardhead gets hit the fish usually ends up in the net. My hooking percentage with rubber isn't horrible, but I have had stretches where several fish were lost. Not usually the case with the HH's.

curleytail
fish4musky1
Posted 1/11/2011 12:02 AM (#474768 - in reply to #474122)
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Location: Northern Wisconsin
Ok thanks Roger
CiscoKid
Posted 1/11/2011 7:33 AM (#474783 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: RE: hard heads likes dislikes?





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
I don't have one bad thing to say about them. This bait is definitely more than just hype. If it was just hype you would still find me using mag dawgs which I haven't used in over three years now.

I hate to do this, but I am going the easy route this time.

Checkout this thread, and look for my name. Near the bottom.

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=51...

Also hear an explanation on how I work them:

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=61...

You can do searches on various sites for the hardhead and get more info as well.
lehighmuskies
Posted 1/11/2011 11:49 AM (#474842 - in reply to #474122)
Subject: Re: hard heads likes dislikes?




Posts: 348


Thanks guys im going to grab me a few.thts one thing I hate about dawgs they dont last vety long.thts what caught my attention with these thanks again
b_seiser
Posted 1/11/2011 9:04 PM (#474939 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 40


I am only going to be able to make it to the milwaukee show and would love to get my hands on one of these any chance of that happening there?
nate_r21
Posted 4/5/2011 11:11 PM (#490954 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 35


Roger, will you be at the MN show this coming weekend?
Muddy41
Posted 4/6/2011 10:23 AM (#491007 - in reply to #490954)
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Posts: 642


Location: Richfield, MN
nate_r21 - 4/5/2011 11:11 PM

Roger, will you be at the MN show this coming weekend?



I hope they are. I am wanting to get a couple and would love to see if the have some unique show colors that are not available on the website!!!!

I will be at the show all 3 days enjoying roaming around and hopefully meeting alot of people from here!!!

MuskieE
Posted 4/6/2011 10:40 AM (#491012 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 2068


Location: Appleton,WI
roger will not be at the show!
h2os2t
Posted 4/6/2011 12:08 PM (#491031 - in reply to #491012)
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Posts: 941


Location: Freedom, WI
MuskieE is right I will not be at the MN show. On color ya never know what I build and sometimes I hide different things in my booth, I do some one of s just to see if people like them. You should see the basement, no maybe not : ). Seriously though anything you want I will try and paint, I will try and work it in.
curleytail
Posted 4/6/2011 12:31 PM (#491034 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
I already put in what I like about the Hardhead above, so I won't get into that again. I do want to say that I have been communicating with Roger recently and he has been great about getting back to me with thorough answers. Roger does great work and has excellent service. If you try his products you won't be disappointed.

Tucker
nate_r21
Posted 4/6/2011 8:57 PM (#491155 - in reply to #474122)
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Posts: 35


Roger - maybe you can hook me up with a show type special on a custom color! I'll pick up a weighting kit also Seriously though I'm looking to get one for the 2011 season. Maybe I'll have to come up with a custom color to order. I do like a couple of your standard colors though, we'll see. How long would it take to get a custom color?

Nate
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