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Location: North Central, Indiana | Any advice on what works best for fall fishing, Insulated rain suit or winter type parka and bibs |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | Layers, I start with Under Armour, fleece over that, a hoodie and my unisulated Guide Ware. If it's real nast windy cold I'll add a layer of polypropelyne long under wear over the under armour. Patagonia heavy cold weather socks and my Columbia Titanium boots and I'm good. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | I'm pretty similar to shaley. Layer up. Layer based on the weather and then throw an uninsulated shell over it and you're golden. I like the uninsulated shells better also because I think they're less bulky and more versatile. I also wear alot of my ice climbing soft shell as well when it's windy and cool out.
Go synthetic or wool. Avoid cotton at all costs. Cotton kills. |
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Location: Columbus, Georgia | I've worn Cabelas insulated Guidewear for some years now. Usually pull it out when the air temps are below 45 degrees in the morning. After some time of shivering until the sun got strong enough or it warmed up, I gave up on wearing the summer rain gear once it started to chill down. Not bulky at all and very easy to move around.
Pricey, but well worth the investment.
Edited by cjrich 9/23/2010 5:53 AM
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Location: North Central, Indiana | thanks guys, good info. Didn't really want to wear the bulky stuff |
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| If you don't want bulk I would invest in some Cold Gear Under Armour. The stuff is worth it weight in gold for cold weather! |
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Location: Elk River Mn | Hop - 9/23/2010 8:55 PM
If you don't want bulk I would invest in some Cold Gear Under Armour. The stuff is worth it weight in gold for cold weather!
Ditto! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I'm fishing the last couple weeks in a Frabill Snow Suit. Warmest gear I've ever worn, and not too bad at all to move around in. I can't wait to try it out second season bow and smoke pole season this year. |
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| Under Armor is good when you are moving arounds alot. If you are just trollong I would stick to fleece and poly propalene layers.
personally, what I do is just some light sweatpants under my jeans / a couple sweatshirts and then Gander Guide Series Tech20 (Like Goretex) Rain Suit. The key is staying dry.. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | be aware of where you are and what you are doing ... layers can be dangerous too and is one of the main reasons that i've gone away from that and to the under-armor and light outer. the layer of air between is enough. i can sit in a tree 12 hours wearing nothing but under-armour and a cheap pair of fleet farm blaze bibs with a hoodie and a down vest. keep your feet and head warm, underarmour and if in a boat in the cold make sure not to have so much on that you can't protect yourself in the event of an emergency.
too much is simply too much ...
time to be thinking about float coats and cold-water safety too ...
that Gander Guide Series Tech20 Rain suit is a rainsuit for about 2 months ... then it's an expensive pair a pants and a jacket. |
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| a good base layer is critical, i like polypro for comfort and warmth. top it off with a layer of fleece or wool plus a good wind/water-proof shell and you're good to go. same thing for the feet and head: polypro base with wool mid-layer. i particularly like the Cabela's windshear sweaters and Glacier Gloves once things get into the 40s. that Gander Guide Series Tech20 Rain suit is a rainsuit for about 2 months ... then it's an expensive pair a pants and a jacket. the coatings on textile-based raingear stop working once they get dirty or if they don't get the chance to dry properly. people get upset when that happens, but don't stop to think about the fact that last time out they stuffed their damp gear back in a boat locker as soon as the rain stopped. it's amazing what proper maintenance will do to restore the water-repellency and extend useful life. i spent 14 hours the Friday before Labor Day out in the high winds and sideways rain...warm and dry in my 2 year-old Gander Tech2O suit. Wash: http://www.nikwax.com/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=4 Proof: http://www.nikwax.com/en-gb/products/productdetail.php?productid=3&activityid=1 |
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| Warmest gear I have ever had on was IDI Artic Armour from IDI corp. It is waterproof, very thin, lightweight, amazingly warm and floats. The one thing it does not do well in my opinion is breath. If I was looking at having a suit for fall trolling inparticular I would look at this. Especially because it works as a floatation suit (not uscga) if you happen to go overboard.I bought this suit based on the floatation factor for Ice fishing. Overall this is a great suit except for breathability... |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | I tried some of that tight fitting cold gear...man...that stuff can get "itchy" quick...
Wow sled...one layer for hunting 12 hours... Not sure I could do that on a 12 day sit in 30 degree temps.
I personally wear about 4 layers. Silk long johns, then two layers of fleece (polartec), then the outer layer. That has me good for long sits, and fishing too. In the boat, I always make sure the outer layer has a wind and waterproof element to them.
I would also wonder, though, if the tech2o stuff could be washed and treated like a gore-tex product. Those need resealing after a while too...
I would highly agree with the float coats and such... Mustang survival wear I believe is one name...
Steve |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i had the techh20 and then returned the set for new ones and there was a noticeable difference. older sets a little stiffer and it worked well, newer set softer and was a seive to a steady rain immediately. they are in the boat for a quick on and off if it gets a little chilly and back to the cheaper stearns for real rain. a hint ... use footjoy or quality waterproof golf shoes for fishing in the rain for a comfortable alternative to wet feet.
i ice fish in underarmor upper and lower, quality boots, the blaze bibs and a hoodie and carry a wind shell for extreme conditions ... lighter and active is safer and so much more comfortable.
head, feet and hands are your enemy in the cold ... take care of them and get a layer of insulating air between the layer and your tighty underarmors and give it a try sometime. i've got good circulation and understand that some just simply don't ... may not work for everyone. |
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| I concur with Sled's assessment of Gander's Tech H20 wear. I'm back in HellyHansen commercial fishing rain gear for cold wet weather. Heavy as all get out, but the only damp in that suit is my sweat and condensation. I deal with that using wicking layers. |
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Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin | For me, this is the worst time of year to be comfortable. You need layers to cope with the cold in the early morning and then you need to be able to get rid of them as the temps can get into the 70's. So I use my summer rain gear to best advantage. Loose clothes underneath and raingear to knock down the wind works well. Later on when it starts cold and stays cold you can go to the heavy duck hunting type bibs and parkas for long periods of time. Worst thing you can do is wear too many clothes and start sweating. Then you're going to suffer.
The one thing that I have learned is wear a knit cap (neck gaiter too if it's really nasty) to keep your head warm and the rest of you will stay warm too. I go to a wide brim hat later on IF it warms up enough, but just changing hats from the knit cap to a ball cap is like taking off a jacket or two. |
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| It's a love/hate thing for me this time of year - LOVE being out, HATE trying to layer properly. Low 30's and rain/wind to 65 and sunny and back to the 30's over the course of a day on the water...
I start with polypro as a base layer. If it's really cold, I'll go with wool pants and a fleece over that, insualted bibs/parka on the outside. That setup is good up to around 40. Over 40, you either need less underneath (i.e. jeans and no base layer) or the same polypro/wool/fleece and lighter weight rain gear.
I'll carry a wool stocking cap and a regular ball cap so I can switch back and forth.
One thing I always make sure to do no matter what, is remove a layer at the first sign of sweat. Nothing worse than being wet when the temperature starts to drop in the afternoon.
I always carry extra clothes. If I'm wearing the insulated rain gear, I have the lighter stuff along and vice-versa. Been way too cold and way too hot too many times...
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Under Armor has new (came out last season) Base 3.0 stuff that's simply amazing. I could easily wear just the base layer under my Gore-Tex suit. |
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| sworrall - 9/24/2010 12:03 PM
I'm fishing the last couple weeks in a Frabill Snow Suit. Warmest gear I've ever worn, and not too bad at all to move around in. I can't wait to try it out second season bow and smoke pole season this year.
I LOVE my Sno Suit, its amazing!! |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Wig Wam wool socks, gloves and hats are made in the USA and are without question the best I have found to cover these areas. I'm with everyone else on the Layers, but always have on the Gortex suit as a shell. I'm digging the 100% wool shirts underneath on super cold days, I tend to find the best stuff at Army surplus stores. If it works for the troops, I figure it should work for me.
Edited by ToothyCritter 9/29/2010 1:50 PM
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| When my wife and I are on the Woods in Oct. Nov. we use the Gerbing heated stuff. a thin jacket liner and the gloves plug into the sleaves and there is a plug in for the pants liner and the socks plug in at the bottom of the pants leg. It has a thermastate control so use it on low or if its 20 out turn it up. So I wear long underwear the pants and jacket liner and my 100mph Bass Pro suite over it. Thats it all it takes plus 12 volts to plug into. http://gerbing.com/Products/Liners/heatedJacketLiner.html |
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Location: Rhinelander, WI | For some of the late season walleye trips I've taken when rain is in the forecast, I take bootfoot neoprene waders. Waterproof and they keep you nice and toasty warm, also great for loading and unloading at the ramp and keeping your feet dry. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | as others have said, layering, staying away from cotton...one thing I think keeps me warm is when it's cold/windy a neck warmer type thing skiers wear...I got an extra long one on ebay that is fleece ...keeping the wind from finding it's way down your jackets etc is important to me...keeping your head warm is also key, one of the warmer stocking caps I have found is the Ice Armor stocking cap.
IMO the insulated Cabelas guidewear bibs are rock solid...I have the Parka but that only comes out in extreme cold as I find a lighter jacket and a couple layers underneath is plenty warm until it gets to maybe sub 35 degree range
I also use the Nikwax line of products Lambeau mentions above...you can get them online or stores like REI carry it....keeping your expensive gore tex stuff in top shape is important to keeping you warm and dry.
Edited by BNelson 9/30/2010 11:50 AM
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | Where we are it can get very cold, wet and dangerous as our season goes to December 15th. I have an Atlantic Class survial suit that is the same our Police Marine Department and locally based Coast Guard wears. It's done me well so far even though I've never had to make use of the survival part.
Good Fishin'
Tim
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| For the past couple of years I have been fishing with IceArmor Clothing and I haven't been wet or cold once. I use the IceArmor Base Layer Poly, then a wool sweater, and the IceArmor blue black cold weather suit suit which isn't insulated but still super warm. I have had buddies wear the Gray/Black Extreme Suit that say it's by far the warmest they have ever owned. It's also at a way better price point then any of the other stuff out there. |
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| The diversity of answers here is interesting. I'll throw in my .02 cents.
I can't really add much to what everyone else has said, but if you can afford one buy a Mustang Survival Suit. It's like wearing a sleeping bag, but the dexterity is still there so that you can still cast all day long. |
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| I have a flotation suit and I use it but it is very hot and I can't use it unless it is real cold. I also find it a little heavy and my arms tire from casting when I wear this as opposed to gore-tex and layers. However, in late November and December I wear it as safety comes before comfort.
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| I'd second the IDI Arctic Armour Suit. Absolutely the warmest I've ever worn, water proof, and windproof. I wear a thin layer of snythetic hiking pants underneath, and snythetic tops. Most of the time the bibbs are enough. If it's really cold then the jacket goes on.
Like mentioned they don't breath much. Other than that it's so light and thin that bulkiness is never a problem, especially when multiple layers aren't worn underneath. I'd buy another set if/when needed without thinking twice. |
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| Wool. Everything Wool. |
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| Put a set of disposable handwarmers inside chopper mittens and put those into a half-gallon ziplock bag. The gloves will be toasty warm all day and perfect to quickly warm your numb, shaking hands after releasing that PB. If the temps drop below freezing put one handwarmer and your wet Lindy gloves inside another ziplock bag to keep the wet gloves from freezing solid. |
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