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| Can anyone tell me if 5.4 or 4.6 is more suitable for cowgirls. I haven't seen any of these in person but am also wondering the distinction between the 51 and 61, are they both muskie reels? |
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Location: Not Where I Want To Be | 4.6 Winch Model for Cowgirls if your going with a Revo. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | The WINCH will be the one that's better suitable for Cowgirls, which is the lower gear ratio. The 50(51) and 60(61) are essentially the same reel. One just has a bigger spool. 51 and 61 are left handed models.
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| do people using the winch primarily slow roll the cowgirls? It seems like it would be difficult to burn them with this reel.
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Location: Oshkosh | I have a 5.4 and I love for all cowgirl fishing except burning them. Plus its more versatile for other kinds of fishing, well the winch isnt very practical for much else IMHO.
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Location: Hugo, MN | I'd say the Winch is going to make you happier for cowgirls. It's good for more than just that. You will like it for hard pulling crankbaits and spinnerbaits, too. Since you likely already have a reel in the 5.0-5.4:1 ratio, you may find the Winch fills a void in your tackle arsenal. |
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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN | Has anyone seen what the retrieve rate is on the Winch? Inches per crank? I've seen this info on the Revo Toro, but not the new Winch.
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| Arron, 4.6:1,I have another question, on EBAY their selling Toro 61 NIB for 207.99 but it is made in Korea are they all made in korea. |
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Location: Yahara River Chain | lake-bum - 3/4/2010 9:58 AM
Arron, 4.6:1,I have another question, on EBAY their selling Toro 61 NIB for 207.99 but it is made in Korea are they all made in korea.
Mine I got a few weeks ago (the 61 Winch) at Dorn Hardware says Made in Korea. It also says Sweden Engineered on the reel. |
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| Yeah the ones on ebay look exactly the same.....just $50 cheaper. Bumms me out, I just bought on last week for $269. I guess I should have shopped around a bit more. The winch is pretty cheap on ebay also. I wonder if those are refurbished models though????
Also, anyone who buys one make sure to get a receipt of purchase. If you purchase any Abu Garcia reel over $150 they give you a free pair of polarized glass. They are pretty decent.
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=revo&#...
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Location: Yahara River Chain | blackriver - 3/4/2010 11:07 AM
Also, anyone who buys one make sure to get a receipt of purchase. If you purchase any Abu Garcia reel over $150 they give you a free pair of polarized glass. They are pretty decent.
I sent in my 11.95 for the glasses, so I got to figure out what to do with when I get them. I have to have Rx glasses. |
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| I have Rx glasses also. I figured I'd sell the glasses to a buddy and hopefully get enough to buy the line for the reel!!! |
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Location: west allis, wi | i bought my first revo toro 61 on ebay and it was/is perfect...i should be getting my second one today hopefully - also purchased on ebay....i'm hoping i can still qualify for the glasses since i did buy them on e-bay and not through a retailer exactly....i'll find out i guess.
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| just make sure you print out a copy of your receipt for warranty purposes! |
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Location: Mt. Zion, IL | AWH - 3/3/2010 11:43 PM
Has anyone seen what the retrieve rate is on the Winch? Inches per crank? I've seen this info on the Revo Toro, but not the new Winch.
Aaron
20" per turn of the crank |
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Location: big cove tannery pa | It says that the line cap of the reel is 14lb 200yds on the 50/51 and 14lb 250yds on the 60/61. My question is can u put heavier line on the reel than the 14lb diameter it is calling for without it having any problems casting? |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | pamuskyhunter - 4/5/2010 7:24 AM
It says that the line cap of the reel is 14lb 200yds on the 50/51 and 14lb 250yds on the 60/61. My question is can u put heavier line on the reel than the 14lb diameter it is calling for without it having any problems casting?
Definitely.
I have the 5.4:1 gear ratio model and just bought the 60HS (6.4:1 gear ratio) model. I have both of them spooled up with 100lb. Spiderwire Stealth Braid... no issues casting whatsoever + plenty of line. |
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Location: big cove tannery pa | thank you thats what i wanted to hear |
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Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160 | pamuskyhunter - 4/5/2010 7:24 AM
It says that the line cap of the reel is 14lb 200yds on the 50/51 and 14lb 250yds on the 60/61. My question is can u put heavier line on the reel than the 14lb diameter it is calling for without it having any problems casting?
YES The TORO has a SYNCHRONIZED - NON- DISENGAGING level wind system so you can use any dia. line on this reel. The TORO 50 with #80 braid will hold around 125 yds and the TORO 60 with #100 braid will hold around 130 yds, both are some of best reels on the market today for Musky fishing.
Edited by PIKEMASTER 5/7/2010 11:16 AM
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| for you guys buying on ebay , check out Lakeside Reels , they usually have free shipping with their reels and they use priority shipping ( 2 day shipping ) i have bought reels from them before and they are ALWAYS on time !!! i live in Ca. and got the reel in 2 days !!! in my opinion they are the best to buy from , i have used others but they had standard shipping that took 5 days . |
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Location: big cove tannery pa | Thank you,checked out Lakeside reels and they dont have the revo toro listed in left handed retrieve.
Found this site for the revo toro,good prices!!!
http://www.aquasuperstore.com/products/Abu-Garcia-Revo-Toro-51-7BB-...
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| what is the line (inches) per crank on the 5.4? |
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Location: Hopefully on the water | winch--21"
5.4----25.5"
6.4---29"
Is what Rollie and Hellen's has them listed at. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | The 50 with 5.4:1 cranks 25" per rotation. The 6.4:1 60HS has 29.6" cranking revolutions.
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Location: South East Wisconsin | "You will like it for hard pulling crankbaits." OMG how true! WOW.. I love this reel! |
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| Why can't they put this technology in there round reels?
I guess its just me but I like the look and feel of a round reel.
Maybe Ill have to try one out and join the revolution  |
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| purchased the revo toro 60 with the 5:4 gear ratio, If you guys are going to use the reel for pulling big blades I would suggest getting the Penn 975 or something with more spool capacity. Gear ratio really doesn't mean anything unless you have the spool capacity. Even with the winch style, your spool diameter is the same as the revo reel with 5:4 gears, you are not gaining anything more. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | *shrug*
Been out casting quite a few times this year with my Revo Toro HS (6.4:1) and Revo Toro (5.4:1) and haven't really had an issue with the spool diameter. Are you referring to the line capacity itself...? I've pulled Double 10's and Double 13's with my Revo Toro's and although, it isn't a reel I'd use to "burn" the big blades, but IMO... it handles them nicely for a low-profile reel. I can cast them all day long with no problems whatsoever. |
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| I have a 6.4:1 and i use it for cowgirls often. It works well if you want to bring them in at a moderate speed or burning them.
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