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Cast
Posted 3/3/2010 8:36 AM (#426731)
Subject: Camo for fishing?


It is a dreary late winter day here in the SW PA. (For those who don't know, we set an all-time record for snowfall here in February 2010. Impressive, but its time to move on.) So why not discuss--as suggested by the videos--Camoflage apparel for fishing? Can this be a factor? Can the fish see and be spooked by an angler standing in a boat wearing, say, a red shirt or jacket? Is the blue in bluejeans too obvious? Any ideas? Any experiences?
esoxfly
Posted 3/3/2010 9:02 AM (#426737 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
I feel like I've spooked boatside fish while wearing bright orange, so I've tried to tone it down some to lighter tones. But the fish can see you any time depending on what they're focused on, the angle of the Sun, how much or how quickly you move around. I don't think camo could hurt, maybe make you not so much of a "shape" to a fish, but it's not like deer hunting where you're going to totally blend in.

I think minimizing and calculating your body movement is more of a factor than color. Yes, the Sun hitting a bright orange shirt can draw some attention, but if the fish isn't spooked by the boat, your shirt isn't going to scare it....until you move and draw it's attention. I spooked much fewer fish when I learned to slow down and minimize my movement.
Will Schultz
Posted 3/3/2010 9:05 AM (#426738 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

Cast - 3/3/2010 9:36 AM It is a dreary late winter day here in the SW PA. (For those who don't know, we set an all-time record for snowfall here in February 2010. Impressive, but its time to move on.) So why not discuss--as suggested by the videos--Camoflage apparel for fishing? Can this be a factor? Can the fish see and be spooked by an angler standing in a boat wearing, say, a red shirt or jacket? Is the blue in bluejeans too obvious? Any ideas? Any experiences?

 

Aqua Design has everything you need to blend in...

Guest
Posted 3/3/2010 4:12 PM (#426808 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


I don't think camoflauge would blend well against a blue sky background. Just my 2 c.
jonnysled
Posted 3/3/2010 4:25 PM (#426810 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
global warming confirmed .... anybody wanna buy some corn or some wind energy??
woodieb8
Posted 3/3/2010 6:05 PM (#426823 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 1530


we wear hawaian shirts and bright shorts. us canadians celebrate summer. as short as it is.
Tackle Industries
Posted 3/3/2010 6:07 PM (#426824 - in reply to #426823)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Just got done designing in my new camo wrap for my new rods
MuskieTom
Posted 3/3/2010 7:20 PM (#426831 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 146


Location: where the fish are...
that shirt may help you fit in with the backround, just not the general public;)
gimo
Posted 3/4/2010 7:07 AM (#426889 - in reply to #426831)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 342


Location: Passaic, NJ - Upper French River, ON
Know a guy that wears a white hat and white long sleeve shirt, and camo pants to match the shoreline. The white is supposed to look like clouds from the fish's angle, and the camo is supposed to disappear against the shoreline.
Cast
Posted 3/4/2010 7:58 AM (#426896 - in reply to #426738)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


Will Schultz - 3/3/2010 9:05 AM

Cast - 3/3/2010 9:36 AM It is a dreary late winter day here in the SW PA. (For those who don't know, we set an all-time record for snowfall here in February 2010. Impressive, but its time to move on.) So why not discuss--as suggested by the videos--Camoflage apparel for fishing? Can this be a factor? Can the fish see and be spooked by an angler standing in a boat wearing, say, a red shirt or jacket? Is the blue in bluejeans too obvious? Any ideas? Any experiences?

 

Aqua Design has everything you need to blend in...

Cast
Posted 3/4/2010 8:00 AM (#426897 - in reply to #426896)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


Cast - 3/4/2010 7:58 AM

Will Schultz - 3/3/2010 9:05 AM

Cast - 3/3/2010 9:36 AM It is a dreary late winter day here in the SW PA. (For those who don't know, we set an all-time record for snowfall here in February 2010. Impressive, but its time to move on.) So why not discuss--as suggested by the videos--Camoflage apparel for fishing? Can this be a factor? Can the fish see and be spooked by an angler standing in a boat wearing, say, a red shirt or jacket? Is the blue in bluejeans too obvious? Any ideas? Any experiences?

 

Aqua Design has everything you need to blend in...



Well, excuse me.
The shirt would be great for bluebird days.
dcates
Posted 3/4/2010 8:28 AM (#426905 - in reply to #426738)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 462


Location: Syracuse, Indiana
Will

Last I checked that company doesn't manufacture their clothing in tall sizes. Any way to use your pull to get them to expand (no pun intended) their line-up?

Dave
Will Schultz
Posted 3/4/2010 10:02 AM (#426925 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Dave - No pull here, I just remembered seeing this stuff and posted a pic. There was a company long ago that had some really cool stuff for bowfishing, I don't know if there still in business. Here' some army surplus sky cammo: http://www.armysurplusworld.com/product.asp?productID=15009 Personally I would just find a white shirt that fits you and tie dye it with blue and gray. Drop in a Dead CD and you'll be looking and sounding sweet on the water. <p> </p>

Edited by Will Schultz 3/4/2010 10:18 AM
gtp888
Posted 3/4/2010 12:12 PM (#426944 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
So, let me understand...why would your clothing need to be camo'd to match sky/shorline, but not your boat?  A boat is 3-4 times the size of a human being.  Shouldn't the rod then be camo'd too since there's a lot of movement of a fishing rod, especially on the 8, and if movement supposedly will spook a fish, the rod should then be sky patterned as well, correct?  It would just seem logical then that motors should be sky pattern camo too, right?  Trolling motors as well, all sky blue with cloud patterns. 
MuskyMidget
Posted 3/4/2010 12:15 PM (#426945 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 925


I've had just as much success with a red shirt on than anything else that blends in. If the fish is hungry, it's going to eat.
gtp888
Posted 3/4/2010 12:20 PM (#426946 - in reply to #426945)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Location: Sun Prairie, WI

MuskyMidget - 3/4/2010 12:15 PM I've had just as much success with a red shirt on than anything else that blends in. If the fish is hungry, it's going to eat.

Hehehe....that's exactly the point I'm trying to make, but am using sarcasm and some cynicism as well in hopes of someone explaining why just clothing needs to be sky camo'd but not something 3-4X as big as a person.

IAJustin
Posted 3/4/2010 12:31 PM (#426950 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 2064


Camo for fishing? -Absolutely -try wading saltwater flats with bright orange on......However, I doubt it makes much of a difference when you have muskie following into the 8 - that being said it can't hurt to blend with the skyline either. I avoid bright colors when I fish (especially saltwater) - Although my rain suit is a bright red - maybe that is why the fish don't bite in the rain for me
gtp888
Posted 3/4/2010 1:22 PM (#426956 - in reply to #426950)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Location: Sun Prairie, WI

IAJustin - 3/4/2010 12:31 PM Camo for fishing? -Absolutely -try wading saltwater flats with bright orange on......However, I doubt it makes much of a difference when you have muskie following into the 8 - that being said it can't hurt to blend with the skyline either. I avoid bright colors when I fish (especially saltwater) - Although my rain suit is a bright red - maybe that is why the fish don't bite in the rain for me :)

Saltwater fishing or wading isn't my point...I'm wondering why your clothing is so important to be camo, but not your boat (which is 3-4 times the size of a person), rod, motor, or trolling motor? 

whynot
Posted 3/4/2010 1:35 PM (#426958 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 897


The difference between you and your boat is that your movements are going to be much more obvious to a fish than than a boat barely moving along. Lots of people have a habit of making jerky movements when they see a fish following, fish notice that. Thus, the trend of wearing shirts that blend in with the sky or at least neutral colors that don't stand out like red or orange. I like whites, grays, blues, and light greens...
esoxfly
Posted 3/4/2010 1:36 PM (#426960 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
That's what I was saying in my post above....I think rapid movement has more to do with it than clothes. And also, like I said if the sun is at all behind or perpendicular to you, you're still going to sillouette to the fish. I agree with the flats and saltwater fishing aspect of camo, but even then I just go with lighter (not brighter) colors so I don't flag a fish. But in a boat with a charging muskie, and muskie being as they are, I think rapid, clumsy movement is your biggest enemy. Again, not that any of the fishing camos out there aren't effective in breaking up your shape, I'm sure they are. I'm just saying I'd worry about movement before I worried about trying to camo myself.
sbro73
Posted 3/4/2010 2:30 PM (#426965 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 82


Location: Minneapolis,Mn
All I know is, in my neck of the woods(Mn), it's been proven Blue attracts mosquitos! I would rather hide from the bugs, than the fish!

Edited by sbro73 3/4/2010 2:35 PM
Will Schultz
Posted 3/4/2010 4:20 PM (#426981 - in reply to #426944)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

gtp888 - 3/4/2010 1:12 PM So, let me understand...why would your clothing need to be camo'd to match sky/shorline, but not your boat?  A boat is 3-4 times the size of a human being.  Shouldn't the rod then be camo'd too since there's a lot of movement of a fishing rod, especially on the 8, and if movement supposedly will spook a fish, the rod should then be sky patterned as well, correct?  It would just seem logical then that motors should be sky pattern camo too, right?  Trolling motors as well, all sky blue with cloud patterns. 

It doesn't matter at all IMO. Just like pretty paint on lures it catches fishermen. I think giving a muskie any credit for thinking about this is giving them way too much credit.

muskiewhored
Posted 3/4/2010 5:25 PM (#426995 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Location: Oswego, IL
I usually use my Harry Potter Cloak seems to work very well in the 8's
gtp888
Posted 3/4/2010 7:38 PM (#427024 - in reply to #426981)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Will Schultz - 3/4/2010 4:20 PM

gtp888 - 3/4/2010 1:12 PM So, let me understand...why would your clothing need to be camo'd to match sky/shorline, but not your boat?  A boat is 3-4 times the size of a human being.  Shouldn't the rod then be camo'd too since there's a lot of movement of a fishing rod, especially on the 8, and if movement supposedly will spook a fish, the rod should then be sky patterned as well, correct?  It would just seem logical then that motors should be sky pattern camo too, right?  Trolling motors as well, all sky blue with cloud patterns. 

It doesn't matter at all IMO. Just like pretty paint on lures it catches fishermen. I think giving a muskie any credit for thinking about this is giving them way too much credit.

Yes, I agree..that's why my post was tongue in cheek with much cynicism.  WAY too much credit to a muskie IMO.

whynot
Posted 3/5/2010 9:10 AM (#427097 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 897


Ya know, I don't think it is too much credit to give to a muskie. Think about it, fish have natural defense mechanisms, one of which is an instinct to swim deeper/awy when they see sudden movement above the surface (like on Odell Lake (a video game for all you old folks) where you had to avoid the dive bombing osprey or you'd be eaten). The fish doesn't think about that, it reacts to the movement. So, if you are in the habit of not paying attention and being surprised by a fish following your lure and making sudden movements when you do, you'll likely spook a lot of fish. Wearing shirts that camoflage your upper body against the sky/background makes it more difficult for an approaching fish to pick up on your movements. If you pay attention and don't make sudden movements when a fish approaches it probably doesn't matter, but with muskies I'd rather be safe than sorry.
mskygyd
Posted 3/9/2010 10:43 AM (#427842 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


It works especially on pressured water. I've been sportin' sky camo for a few years now. Many more boatside hits. I had a five fish day (#6 shook off) last season. The client in the front of the boat got nothing but a few follows that were spooked by his bright red shirt. I wear different shades for different cloud cover conditions. I know they will still bite wearing NASCAR looking tournament shirts - but it can't hurt to go camo - at least light blue or gray shirt. Next step - face sky camo makeup. A few clouds and maybe a seagull or two on the cheeks.
Fish Fry Guy
Posted 3/10/2010 8:18 PM (#428213 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?




Posts: 56


Location: Maplewood, MN
If you ask me, if wearing camo, a business suit, a space suit or going buck naked improves your confidence, go for it. I also agree with what was said before about keeping harp body movements to a minimum.
lake x
Posted 3/11/2010 2:26 PM (#428325 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


muskies are dumb. 5 fish day and you think that's because you had camo on? 5 fish day isn't that special really.
some guys give the musky way too much credit. but hey if you think it helps go for it!
mskygyd
Posted 3/11/2010 6:40 PM (#428374 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: RE: Camo for fishing?


And how many 5 fish (legals) did you have last season? That wasn't the only 5 fish day last season. I suppose it's not so special if you fish Lake St. Clair. All I'm saying is 2 anglers throwing exact same baits. One with Camo one with red shirt. Camo - 4 of 5 fish caught at boatside. RED SHIRT 0. If muskies were dumb they would bite all the time like PIKE.
sworrall
Posted 3/11/2010 7:28 PM (#428384 - in reply to #426731)
Subject: Re: Camo for fishing?





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Muskies are dumb. Sorry, they just are.

SO are Pike.

Bass, too.

Walleyes? Dumb.
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