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| If one of you guys are lucky enough to catch the state record would you harvest it for the official record or would you be happy with the measurements and why? |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | I'd probably let it go...
why? I'm sure everyone has their reasons.
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| I'd kill it in a blink of an eye..........  |
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Location: Roscoe IL | Probably Thump it... Hard to say for sure & I hope to have that decision to make.
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| Having already let go a state record, would have no problem letting another go. Only to return for a possible world record at a later date. To let it go too.
It is not about records, only memories.
My opinion amongst friends, and any fish, or for fishing sake, just wanting more memories.
Thanks for listening.
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| I'd take great pics on a bump board with a tape measure(for girth) and release her! Then I would go barking to every media outlet and MN DNR official who would listen about release records! We have the technology to do it I.G.F.A.-style! Plus think of the endless forum-fodder! I hold nothing against the lucky guy who will inevitably break it soon! |
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Location: Des Moines IA | It would be the "THUMP" heard round the world!! I'm a selfish bast@$% like that! |
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | MuskieMike - 10/29/2009 5:54 PM
It would be the "THUMP" heard round the world!! I'm a selfish bast@$% like that!
What he said but twice.....I've been bitten by once thumped fish.
Tim
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| The reason the record would be broken is due to all the catch and release. There is not a muskie fisherman on here that dosen't think that the big fish being caught hasen't felt steel before. My total muskie count isn't but maybe 50 fish and I just started fishing them hard this year. I would just want 3 good pictures and a measurement I'll take the replica. What all you fisherman think of the guy that catches it dosen't matter only to that person. I don't sleep with all of you so your opinion won't really affect me and the one who does won't read this. Point pratice what you preach no exceptions |
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| I agree with DMORGAN!
If it wasn't for catch release and my ego isn't that big that my name has to be in the record book. Lot's of photos, measurements, etc and the joy of watching her swim off.
Bravo DMORGAN |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | It's interesting all the insistence that one's 'ego' isn't this or that, but it's certainly strong enough to insist on one stance or another on a potential record CPR. One without a strong ego wouldn't comment or tell anyone the fish was caught or released, I'd say.
Nothing wrong with a strong ego, IMO, either way. All the insistence the release ethic also doesn't stroke the ego.... it most certainly does, and nicely.
Guess I'd let her go. Ego driven, all the way. |
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Location: Pelican Rapids, MN | State record would swim away - World Record would go home with me. Of course I say that now, pressed with the decision, either school of thought may change. Who knows. I always said I would let it go. Who knows. |
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Any State would be released with the exception of Wisconsin, then it would be the thump heard around the world.
Watch out Louie the fat lady is warming up, it seems that more and more really big fish are showing up, It won't be long and the crown will be passed it's just a matter of who & where
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| Funny, This is what I was told by the person that got Art Lawton's record disqualified about the chances of breaking the current world record: "It will never happen again." |
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| Not a doubt in my mind if I caught what was a CERTAIN state, and in my case that would mean it was a World Record fish It would be getting a varnish bath :):):) |
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| To me keeping the state record really wouldn't mean that much to me knowing that it HAS been caught and released multiple times in the last few years. I agree whole heartedly with release records, we preach and preach about CPR but the only way to hold a record is to kill a fish? Doesn't make sense to me. A 55lb fish would certainly be something to behold, but knowing that it isn't truly the record would take away a lot of the glory. |
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| There's no way anybody will ever know if a state or world record has been caught and released so what's the problem? If a fish is caught and killed that breaks a state or world record the glory the angler receives is well justified.
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Location: MPLS, MN | Jsondag - 10/29/2009 8:24 PM
State record would swim away - World Record would go home with me.
Probably my opinion also.. |
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| At one time I was a fanatic about muskie. Was the only fish I fished for. Over the years the drive settled a little. I go after whatever swim as long as its a muskie, pike, walleye, bass or trout. Probably fish for skie about five or six times a year depending the circumstances.
The one thing that really turned me off about the muskie fishing community(not muskie fishing)was the attitude given to someone that kept a monster fish. Most get more upset over a fish being killed then they would if it was a human killed. Thats completely rediculous. The fact of the matter is as long as its still legal to keep a fish there is no use complaining about someone elses actions. If a fellow MUSKIE fisherman wants to keep that ONE monster thats his choice. If you want to release yours fine.
By reading some of these posts it almost seems like its more of an ego thing to SAY you would release rather than keep. The guy that keeps that one fish he probably fished his whole life for knows he's gonna get torn apart on the forums(Tom Gelb ring any bells). Seems little to be gained by that. These days keeping that big fish is not about ego, its the complete opposite. I say who cares what everyone else thinks. Don't let others egos influence your decisions. I know I won't. No one should feel guilty about keeping a state record.
A world record?? We don't have to worry about that. It'll never be broken.
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Location: Cave Run Lake KY. | never say never, I hear the 70 year old Bass world Record has just been broken . |
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Location: Iowa Great Lakes | Can't honestly answer that question untill the day happens. Would love to say I'll let it swim but on the other hand it would be hard to pass up what comes along with catching a record. I don't care what others think, when and if that day comes I'll decide then. |
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| I could not even begin to tell you what the records would be in Mich, Ohio, IN, or IL and don't really care. I have had my share of monsters in the boat but they all go back. Hell I might have put one back in the lake already and didn't know, or care.... |
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | Guest - 11/1/2009 8:21 AM
The one thing that really turned me off about the muskie fishing community(not muskie fishing)was the attitude given to someone that kept a monster fish. Most get more upset over a fish being killed then they would if it was a human killed.
The funny thing about that is a lot of the guys that say they'd "let it swim" have never caught a fish that's any where to close being any kind of record and I don't think they can really say honestly what they would do having never been in a situation like it. I think a lot of guys would be surprised at how their feelings change when it's all laid out in front of them. I've been guiding for 25yrs and you wouldn't believe how many "100% CRP" guys that swore they'd never keep a fish get "the bat" out.
Good Fishin'
Tim
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Location: Southern Ontario, Detroit River and Lake StClair | shaley - 11/1/2009 11:50 AM
Can't honestly answer that question untill the day happens. Would love to say I'll let it swim but on the other hand it would be hard to pass up what comes along with catching a record. I don't care what others think, when and if that day comes I'll decide then.
There's a man that's honest with himself....!!!
Tim
Edited by Roughneck1860 11/1/2009 1:00 PM
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Don't know how close I was but never even thought about a bat. 100% CPR all the way. This was a july fish and IMHO right now she's a state record and was only given that opportunity by letting her GROW and that doesn't happen on the wall!
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| remember in the movie Platoon, as night approaches and the GI's know the NVA are going to hit them hard after dark. Sgt O'Neill (Red) goes to Barnes almost trembling with dread saying basically, 'hey skipper, I got a really BAD feeling about this one, how about putting me on that chopper out of here'. Barnes nonchalantly says 'everybody got to die sometime'.
Eventually the sun will go supernova, the lakes and rivers will boil away, and Gamma rays will kill all life on earth.
Given these facts, I will probably thump it. However, it would be gut check time, and maybe she would swim away.
Me thinks a huge old fish rotting on the bottom of the lake (perhaps from delayed mortality C&R) doesn't do much but feed the turtles and worms.
In general, people get sick of being lectured to and judged, especially when they are doing something legal that does not hurt anyone else. |
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Location: So. Illinois | I will never be in a position to catch a world record, or even a state record. I can tell you that I hope someone does catch a world record, keeps it, and provides accurate documentaiton so that they put to rest all the debate regarding the current world record. As for my home state of Illinois, I can't wait until a new record is validated. Record fish provide us with data points that indicate how big a fish can actually get and provides validation regarding what waters can actually support these large fish. World and region (State) records provide incentive for people to fish these waters and contribute to the local economies. Louise Spray's record has been contributing to the local economy for years. These records also are a significant reason people pick up a rod and reel and go muskie fishing. The growth potential of these fish and the interest / excitement they generate is amazing. The argument regarding "loss of genetics" when a fish is harvested is a poor one at best. A record fish is going to be old and wouldhave contributed genetically to the body of water for mutiple years. I think the challenge is for anglers to exercise good judgement in their ability to recognize a potential record fish and to harvest these fish only if the law allows. |
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| Stste records were released on Mille lacs & Vermilion and this brings allot of out of stste anglers to MN. Why do you think this site has so many Vermilion outings, they surely don't go to number lakes. I think thumping them would have adverse affects on tourism but thats my oppinion. Why don't more people carry certified scales with them then just get witnesses and GOOD photos then let her go.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | The reason we have Vermilion outings is because we have a sponsor who owns a really nice resort there and treats us like royalty, and the fishing is good. We have had many outings on Wabigoon, Cave Run, Presque Isle waters, Milwaukee area and Rhinelander area waters, too; some of the lakes we fish on MuskieFIRST outings are certainly known as 'numbers' lakes. |
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| Sorry I didn't get a chance to follow all of your guys outings but do notice most are on trophy potential waters and it seems like their well run. Also I notice Tenn. has raised the size limits on 2 of their waters recently to 50" es . Big fish = Big tourist dollars so thumping the state records might not be in the best interest of a local economy. Even the newly cought MI state record was attempted to be released. One last question, how many state record holders can you name? Me, 2 so in the grand scheme of things do you really think it matters? World record I could see why someone would keep it, but I don't think I would and I also don't think I will ever have to worry about that, but maybe just maybe.....
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