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| Anybody else into Kayak Musky fishing?
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| Fighting a fish on a kayak sounds fun.
However, is that fish on a giant stringer?
Please don't do that if you want the fish to survive when released.
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| Is "Kayak musky fishing" different than "musky fishing"? |
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Location: Minneapolis,Mn | I second that , do not put them on a stringer !!! |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Meh, never got into the kayak thing. I'm sure it's cool. Just not my thing. I've done alot of pontoon fishing, but the whole reason for that was the portability of the pontoon....which kayaks don't offer. I also like moving my pontoon with fins, which kayaks don't offer very well either.
So was the stringer so you could get it back to the ramp for a pic? Just a polite tip, but that'd be the first thing I'd rethink if you want to release. Even if she swam off, her survivability is greatly diminished by that. |
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Location: Kodiak, AK | Are you the same "NJ Musky" on ebay unloading his baits? |
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| I have been using the stringer for years and they all swim away just fine. When I'm by myself It would be imposable to get the cowgirl out and take a pic without one. When I'm with some friends it's just a quick pic and back in. 
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Catching muskies from a kayak has to be blast. But a small suggestion- If you have to use it, place the stringer through the lower jaw and not through the gills.
Just because they swam away doesn't mean they survived. This is also true of any other released muskie. The gills are proably the most fragile part of a fish and very critical to their survival.
Have fun!
Al
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| Guy asks about kayak muskie fishing..one response about how it is different and the rest just chime in to list what they feel is wrong with the manner in which he fishes.... freakin hysterical. I would bet the kayak is great, did some tube and wading for them which was fun. What size kayak? Ben |
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Location: The desert | BenR - 10/18/2009 4:51 PM
Guy asks about kayak muskie fishing..one response about how it is different and the rest just chime in to list what they feel is wrong with the manner in which he fishes.... freakin hysterical. I would bet the kayak is great, did some tube and wading for them which was fun. What size kayak? Ben
No kidding. Guy makes his first and second post on this site and that was all some guys could come up with?
FSF, yes it is different. How many times have you rowed your boat and had to deal with balancing to stay above water while casting and landing a fish? My guess would be never.
Welcome NJ. What kind of gear do you take with you? Do you fish with your release tools on your lap or do you have some sort of easily accessible storage? My guess is there isn't much for figure 8's in a kayak?
As for your stringer, I really don't see an issue with it. Just put it through beneath the jaw. Pretty creative actually. Thinking outside the box, something many here sometimes struggle with. Kudos to you! Once again, welcome and watch out for the Release and Picture Police. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | My son Brian has fished muskies and pike out of a kayak for years, he enjoys it. He and his wife actually fished the Goon for a week using Kayaks much of the time. Quite a challenge!
The 'stringer' looks to me more like a restraining device much like a trip gaff, if used properly just slipped through the jaw while CPRing (which it appears to be) , it will keep the fish restrained enough to get the hooks out and get an image with no harm done. No reason for concern there.
Welcome aboard, NJ, any more Kayak Muskie pictures? |
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| actually, the responses have been pretty fair if you ask me.
people have noted that using a kayak is an interesting way to fish, but also offer encouragement to treat the fish in a way that's more likely to result in it surviving the release. we do have a responsibility to point things like this out to each other, as long as it's done with tact.
it's common sense that dragging a fish along next to a boat back to the landing for the sake of a picture is going to add stress, and some pretty smart biologists have opined that delayed mortality is most likely the response of cumulative stressors rather than any single one. so, leashing and dragging a muskie might not kill it, but it'll contribute to the stress level and it definitely won't help it survive.
NJ: keep fishing by kayak, it sounds pretty cool. i've considered using one to troll on some small lakes where you can't get in with a motor. at the same time, consider taking a pic in the water or foregoing the picture altogether for the sake of the fish.
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| He doesn't drag it around, he stated that he used it to be better able to unhook the fish while he is alone...I think one of the tactful posters suggested he was dragging it around...LOL.... |
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Location: branchburg NJ | Welcome Nj muskie. I too am in Nj and fish from my kayak and i love it. Where do you fish? Nice pics by the way. |
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| Hey!! Another NJ muskie guy. I think i know where that first fish was caught (nice fish btw) but i won't reveal. The ramp in the backround gave it away. I believe i saw you out fishing once, you were throwing a cowgirl, I was out with my buddy in his john boat. We are probably going to start getting into the whole kayak muskie fishing thing, being that i just acquired 2 new kayaks and they are much easier to transport than a johnboat.
See you on the water. |
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| Thanks for the warm welcome. I love Musky fishing and wouldn't think of hurting one.
I would maybe keep a state record fish but I'll deal with that if it ever happens.
I try to fish three trips a week in NJ Lakes from the middle of March until February.
This is a pic of how I use the game clip if I'm by myself and the fish is trying to kill me and also some of the lures I carry around with me.
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| I fished NJ for quite sometime before heading out to CO, I think I know that lake as well...however I spent most of my time on Greenwood....
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| When you throw a cowgirl out of a kayak do you actually pull the cowgirl toward the craft or do you meet in the middle? HAHAHAHA
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| I forgot to mention that I use a 12 foot Manta Ray with either a Lowrance or Eagle fish finder. I always try to fish from the inside out. I keep the yak in the shallow weeds and then make a long cast into the deep water. I then burn the lure back into the weeds, remove all the crap from my lure and repeat the crazy process all over again. The hits usually came right at the weed line or on the figure eight. For the figure eight I just pick up the speed at the end of the retrieve then turn the lure around and shove it back in their face. I think that makes them a little mad.
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Location: Kodiak, AK | If anyone was upset by my reply, I wasn't so much concerned about the stringer itself, as much as I was wondering if he'd taken it back to the ramp for the pic. It just appears that he's in front of a boat ramp in the pic, which had me thinking he'd taken it back there to get a pic. And that stress was my concern.
I'm all for creative fishing and inventive landing techiniques. A kayak isn't for me, I can see it's merit. For me though, I'll stick with my pontoon.
Welcome NJ. |
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| What will they come up with next? Fly musky fishing? Canoe musky fishing? Wading musky fishing? Fishing musky using suckers?
On the more serious side, that rig in the fishes jaws looks like a problem to me. |
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Location: Brookfield, WI | firstsixfeet - 10/18/2009 10:03 PM
What will they come up with next? Fly musky fishing? Canoe musky fishing? Wading musky fishing? Fishing musky using suckers?
Get this. Even women fish for muskies now. Sounds unbelievable, right? Well it's not. I've seen it first hand. The one I fished with even drove the boat a little bit, and even pulled it out of the lake when her husband loaded it on the trailer.
Kevin
Go Falcons. |
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Location: The desert | firstsixfeet - 10/18/2009 10:03 PM
What will they come up with next? Fly musky fishing? Canoe musky fishing? Wading musky fishing? Fishing musky using suckers?
On the more serious side, that rig in the fishes jaws looks like a problem to me.
My hooks in a fish's jaws generally look like a problem too.
Hopeful and Ben, you're killing me.
Falcons!
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Location: oswego, il | I have muskie fished from a kayak before. It is alot of fun. I did not boat any but a buddy of mine who owns the kayak did. I did have a musky swim with me down a creek for awhile, that was pretty cool to see. |
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| MuskyHopeful - 10/18/2009 10:13 PM
firstsixfeet - 10/18/2009 10:03 PM
What will they come up with next? Fly musky fishing? Canoe musky fishing? Wading musky fishing? Fishing musky using suckers?
Get this. Even women fish for muskies now. Sounds unbelievable, right? Well it's not. I've seen it first hand. The one I fished with even drove the boat a little bit, and even pulled it out of the lake when her husband loaded it on the trailer.
Kevin
Wait a second here....Now I BELIEVED THE 61 INCH MUSKY, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A LINE....!
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Location: Dixon, IL | Very nice fish! I use my sat on kayak and I noticed that cast a large bucktail and big spinnerbait is not easy on kayak unless you use weight with rope to keep kayak to stay a still in one spot. Big bucktail is like pulling me! I like to use grandma and crankbait. Enjoy use large Doctor spoon for pike in the river near my home. Easy to use large plasticworm for big bass but how you use a large bucktail for muskies? Stay one spot?
I will try Bull Dawg!
I already have two rod holders and plan to use two large deep crankbaits for slowing padding in the late Fall like Tom Gelb row trolling in the northern Wisconsin and he got two monster muskies! |
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| My yak has a rudder so I keep it in the down posistion burried in the weeds, it acts like a anchor for me. If I fish parallel to structure I let the cowgirl move me along so I don't need the paddle. It's time to switch over and try some vertical jigging.
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| The device he used looks like a good way to go when fishing from a kayak.... nets are not an option due to size which leaves you with few other options other than a boga grip or somethign along those lines. I caught a 35" on a very small stream and she had me buried to the reel seat on one run. trying to keep out of stumps and such was interesting because when you dip your paddle in they spook and run. anything to get them subdued, unhooked and back on thier way quickly is a good thing. If it's through the jaw she should be fine. thank god they have never done anything that would be wrong in the eyes of another. |
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| Not quite a kayak, but I often fish from a one-man canoe. I grew up with canoes, we'd fish bass, walleyes, even troll for lake trout from the canoe, so muskie fishing from a canoe was a natural progression for me. I enjoy the peace and quiet. Feel more "in tune" with my surroundings in a canoe...
If you want to keep from drifting while retrieving lures, tie a 5 gallon pail to a rope and throw it in the water. It will sink just below the surface and act like a drift sock. |
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Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | NJ Musky - The use of your "clip" is clearly your choice. I would like to point out that in the first photo, the clip appears to be through the gill's, and in the second photo it's through the lower jaw and further back in the mouth. Also keep in mind that part of the muskie's lateral line is located in the lower jaw, i.e., that's what those pores are on the underside of the jaw. Any damage to a fish's lateral line has to affect their long term survival.
If it were me. I would place the clip right behind the front of the lower jaw bone- This would limit some of the potential damage if the fish thrashes around.
So what's your longest kayak ride, i.e., while fighting a muskie? Do you use the rudder to increase the angle of the kayak in relationship to the fish and put more pressure on the fish, or do you do that by using rod positioning?
Have fun!
Al |
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