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shotgunlew
Posted 8/25/2009 10:27 PM (#396062)
Subject: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
My friend and I have a bet, The bet is that I can catch more muskie using only swim baits then He can with only Bucktails. So now I need to get the most realistic Swimbaits I can. What companys would you guys suggest? Models? ect

Thanks

chris
Tim Schmitz
Posted 8/25/2009 10:42 PM (#396066 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 540


Location: MN
castaic makes one called the catch 22 that's the best I can think of it dose a sweet 180 turn thing when you rip it.
TJ1
Posted 8/25/2009 10:56 PM (#396069 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 24


Location: PA
Tackle Industries has some swimbaits that are hard to distinguish from the real thing. 8" 4.75oz Nibbler Bass Swimbaits in trout and smallmouth are very realistic in person.

Pro Tackle Solutions seems to carry a lot of different brands also for a good price.


No affiliation to either company but have purchased from both.
MikeHulbert
Posted 8/25/2009 11:15 PM (#396073 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 2427


Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana
I would also be willing to take that bet as well...swimbaits are hard to beat. I like the swimbaits with lips on them, and if you read my last article in Musky Hunter I explained why....

You can't go wrong with the following:
10 inch Kickin Minnow
Nate Bait Swimbaits
Swimmin Joe
and oh yeah....the Shadillac!!!


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RiverMan
Posted 8/25/2009 11:50 PM (#396076 - in reply to #396062)
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Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Nate Baits........................

Jed
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 12:22 AM (#396079 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
Yep thats where I got it!
RyanJoz
Posted 8/26/2009 6:39 AM (#396085 - in reply to #396079)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 1753


Location: Mt. Zion, IL
when will your shadillac be released and how much is it?
Shane Mason
Posted 8/26/2009 7:28 AM (#396089 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory


Netted a WI 50 for a buddy running the Musky Innovations prototype swimbait 2 weeks ago. Dont know when they will be out though.
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 9:09 AM (#396108 - in reply to #396073)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
Where can I get one of the shaddalics?


MikeHulbert - 8/25/2009 11:15 PM




I would also be willing to take that bet as well...swimbaits are hard to beat. I like the swimbaits with lips on them, and if you read my last article in Musky Hunter I explained why....

You can't go wrong with the following:
10 inch Kickin Minnow
Nate Bait Swimbaits
Swimmin Joe
and oh yeah....the Shadillac!!!
ClintV
Posted 8/26/2009 11:24 AM (#396129 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 38


Location: Twin Cities Metro
My number one swim bait is the Shadzilla from Waterwolf Lures. It is a 9.5" hollow belly. It has great action, check them out.
muskihntr
Posted 8/26/2009 12:27 PM (#396147 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
A ton of work has gone into the shadillacs over the past year. they are going to be an awesome bait! Mike has spent a ton of time working all or any bugs out of this bait. once it hits production rest assured it will be 100% sturdy and reliable. they will be available for show season and then retailers soon after that. For the shows they will definetly be available at either mikes booth and at my booth (Stealth Tackle).
Guest
Posted 8/26/2009 2:37 PM (#396167 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory


swimbaits putting more big fish in the boat than a swimbait? is someone on crack.
might want to check the Muskies Inc data. #1 producing 50" lure of all time, in what just the last 4 years. hint: it isn't a swimbait.
They work yes, but they aren't going to put more fish in the boat than big tens.
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 2:43 PM (#396168 - in reply to #396167)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
You may be correct BUT I think swimbaits will put more MUSKIES ( Not just big but just more muskies ) In the boat then other baits. Bucktails are suppose to look like fish or other creatures, I would assume that a swimbait looks closer to a fish then a bucktail, Just my drunken logic during the bet, but we shall see!
Billy B
Posted 8/26/2009 3:01 PM (#396174 - in reply to #396167)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 267


Location: Ft. Wayne, Indiana
Guest - 8/26/2009 3:37 PM

swimbaits putting more big fish in the boat than a swimbait? is someone on crack.
might want to check the Muskies Inc data. #1 producing 50" lure of all time, in what just the last 4 years. hint: it isn't a swimbait.
They work yes, but they aren't going to put more fish in the boat than big tens.


Apparently you are Guest. I just can't see how a swimbait can put more fish in the boat than a swimbait either.

I love guests!!! They are always good for a laugh.

Edited by Billy B 8/26/2009 3:17 PM
BNelson
Posted 8/26/2009 3:08 PM (#396176 - in reply to #396174)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Location: Contrarian Island
obviously a typo. probably meant to read
"swimbaits putting more fish in the boat than a bucktail?".
can anyone else get in on this bet????


don't throw too many, but have put some big fish in the boat on some...have a time and a place for sure. Just like any bait.
Swimmin Joes and Castaics are about all I throw in that category.

Edited by BNelson 8/26/2009 3:11 PM
IAJustin
Posted 8/26/2009 3:20 PM (#396179 - in reply to #396176)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 2069


I would just pay your friend now - bucktails rule!!!
JRedig
Posted 8/26/2009 3:35 PM (#396186 - in reply to #396167)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory




Location: Twin Cities
Guest - 8/26/2009 2:37 PM

swimbaits putting more big fish in the boat than a swimbait? is someone on crack.
might want to check the Muskies Inc data. #1 producing 50" lure of all time, in what just the last 4 years. hint: it isn't a swimbait.
They work yes, but they aren't going to put more fish in the boat than big tens.


#1 producing 50" lure of all time....as reported in the muskies inc log....clearly it must be 100% accurate and true....clearly everyone reports every catch ever of any muskie to the muskie inc logs...nope, no holes in that one...
BNelson
Posted 8/26/2009 3:37 PM (#396187 - in reply to #396186)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Location: Contrarian Island
I think the track record of double tens the last few years doesn't have a single hole in it...yes MInc data is flawed, definitely true with them changing the "lake x" rule...dumb. but it is a sampling. but maybe all those 50s in the DCG ads were really on swimbaits and we are all being fooled into throwing them! son of a....

Edited by BNelson 8/26/2009 3:39 PM
Flambeauski
Posted 8/26/2009 3:40 PM (#396190 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
I can't see swimbaits beating bucktails either. Hope you didn't bet your boat.
mota
Posted 8/26/2009 3:44 PM (#396191 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory


swimbaits+lips= crankbaits
in the spring you will lose your bet for sure,bucktails is way more productive.and if you cant troll,bucktail will be also a better lure during the summer.
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 4:58 PM (#396209 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
I was drunk when I made the bet, But my logic is that a bucktail is suppose to look like a fish or creature, So a swim bait would be closer in apperance. Im gonna lose this bet tho....
muskiewhored
Posted 8/26/2009 5:39 PM (#396215 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Location: Oswego, IL
Never count out a bait that has more action than another, I think you have a very good chance with the swimbait.
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 5:57 PM (#396217 - in reply to #396215)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
Theres not much at stake....Just as much Linie's summer shady that the winner can drink ( the loser pays for it! )
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 8/26/2009 9:21 PM (#396248 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 1317


Location: Lebanon,Mo
Also consider how many people are throwing bucktails compared to swimbaits.....even up that number and you might be surprised how well those swimbaits will do.
Schuler
Posted 8/26/2009 9:25 PM (#396250 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 1462


Location: Davenport, IA
I saw nothing about price so here you go: http://www.316lurecompany.com/
shotgunlew
Posted 8/26/2009 11:20 PM (#396276 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory





Posts: 254


Location: In the cabbage
I want the real deal!!! Where can I get one!??!?!
curleytail
Posted 8/26/2009 11:36 PM (#396279 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: Re: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
It doesn't seem like such a bad bet to me? I think it will boil down to 1.) who is the better fisherman, and/or 2.) what structures and depths are the fish using.

If the fish are down 10 feet and unwilling to move up much, you might do better with the swimbaits. I could see the bet going either way myself.

curleytail
RiverMan
Posted 8/26/2009 11:39 PM (#396281 - in reply to #396248)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
missourimuskyhunter - 8/26/2009 9:21 PM

Also consider how many people are throwing bucktails compared to swimbaits.....even up that number and you might be surprised how well those swimbaits will do.


Yep................I agree.

RM
Guest
Posted 8/26/2009 11:42 PM (#396282 - in reply to #396062)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory


For those that think a swimbait will outproduce big bucktails are you going to quit casting bucktails?
shotgunlew
Posted 8/27/2009 1:54 AM (#396290 - in reply to #396282)
Subject: RE: Swimbaits theory





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Location: In the cabbage
Why So Serious


Guest - 8/26/2009 11:42 PM

For those that think a swimbait will outproduce big bucktails are you going to quit casting bucktails?



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