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Maverick
Posted 7/29/2009 8:55 PM (#391197)
Subject: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 49


Location: Waconia, MN
Do you figure 8 every time you bring the lure back to the boat or just when you see a fish follow up?

Edited by Maverick 7/29/2009 8:58 PM
WI Skis
Posted 7/29/2009 8:57 PM (#391198 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?





Posts: 547


Location: Oshkosh
Everytime, you never know if one is following that you dont see.

Peter
Ifishskis
Posted 7/29/2009 9:04 PM (#391203 - in reply to #391198)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?





Posts: 395


Location: NW WI
Everytime
T_Musky
Posted 7/29/2009 9:15 PM (#391205 - in reply to #391203)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?




Posts: 25


Overall, probably less than 30% of the time because I do most of my musky fishing on the st. lawrence river.
curleytail
Posted 7/29/2009 9:19 PM (#391208 - in reply to #391205)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?




Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
T_Musky - 7/29/2009 9:15 PM

Overall, probably less than 30% of the time because I do most of my musky fishing on the st. lawrence river.


Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but why does that matter?

In answer to the question, I figure 8 after every cast. I haven't caught many boatside, but I've had plenty hit just a little ways from the boat that came from nowhere, or came after the bait after taking it out of the water after an 8, or have followed in late enough where leaving the bait in the water the few extra seconds allowed the fish to see the bait in the water by the boat.

curleytail
archerynut36
Posted 7/29/2009 9:21 PM (#391210 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1887


Location: syracuse indiana
EVERYTIME
AWH
Posted 7/29/2009 9:27 PM (#391213 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1243


Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
I at least do an L at the side of the boat after every cast. Although I should do an 8 after every cast, I definitely get lazy at times and only do an L quite often. It's hard to convince myself I need to do an 8 in spots where I can clearly see bottom and no fish in site. But I've also had times in these same situations where a fish shows up out of nowhere when I take the bait out of the water. That's when I tell the dummy holding the rod that he should have done an 8!!!

Aaron
T_Musky
Posted 7/29/2009 9:35 PM (#391215 - in reply to #391208)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?




Posts: 25


That's not a dumb question and I hope this doesn't seem like a dumb answer, but I have fished the larry for more than 6 years and never seen a musky stay commited to a lure at the boat. I never even heard of a musky caught on the Larry on a figure 8. They just turn away and go back down to the depths. So, there's no reason to figure 8 in my opinion, just get your lure out there and keep on trolling or casting.
Someone please prove me wrong....
50"skie
Posted 7/29/2009 9:37 PM (#391216 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 425


Every time!! Before last year I only did a L turn everytime but last August I had one come from right out under the boat and crush my bucktail. Never even saw it, now I ALWAYS do a full figure 8 every time!
Pointerpride102
Posted 7/29/2009 9:42 PM (#391218 - in reply to #391216)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Motion Commotion!
firstsixfeet
Posted 7/29/2009 10:34 PM (#391224 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 2361


Some of you guys are killing yourselves.

You better get in muskyshape.
Muskiecut
Posted 7/29/2009 11:07 PM (#391231 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 135


Location: Irvine, KY
Every time. Sometimes two or three 8's if the water is muddy or very stained.... you never know whats down there.
jay lip ripper
Posted 7/29/2009 11:16 PM (#391233 - in reply to #391231)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 392


Location: lake x...where the hell is it?
everytime atleast once and 2,3,4 times at night
dzgolf2
Posted 7/29/2009 11:19 PM (#391236 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 35


Everytime, normally two of them too. Can't tell you how many fish I've seen come from under the boat even in good visibility. Mysterious creatures they are.
JRedig
Posted 7/29/2009 11:33 PM (#391240 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Location: Twin Cities
Everytime and multiple's at a minimum. Too many fish have come out of nowhere doing so. That way when you KNOW there's a fish there, muscle memory wins the advantage and you do a better 8 under pressure, it's CERTAINLY mattered for me being able to go on autopilot!
JKahler
Posted 7/29/2009 11:51 PM (#391246 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 1287


Location: WI
I usually do an L or at least a half circle. On really dark water I will do at least I full oval (I like the oval better than the 8).
PSYS
Posted 7/30/2009 6:45 AM (#391265 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
I figure-8 every. single. time.

I've gotten ditched too many times when I've pulled the bait from the water, only to see a musky show up out of nowhere just moments after the fact. After seeing too many fish... I now figure-8 after every cast and I usually do at the minimum two full figure-8's.
CiscoKid
Posted 7/30/2009 7:28 AM (#391272 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: RE: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1906


Location: Oconto Falls, WI
Seldom when fishing suspended as if I don’t trigger them by that time they don’t eat. My boatside maneuver takes the place of the “8”. I usually do an L-turn though. I have yet to catch a suspended fish on the “8” (yes I do them when a fish is seen following). Different breed of fish out there!

Don’t see the need for an “8” in the clear waters I fish, and my way of fishing. I just end up spending energy on the “8’s” that doesn’t produce any results for me.
rudy
Posted 7/30/2009 8:39 AM (#391283 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: RE: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 131


always,always,always
esox50
Posted 7/30/2009 8:52 AM (#391286 - in reply to #391208)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8?





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curleytail - 7/29/2009 9:19 PM

T_Musky - 7/29/2009 9:15 PM

Overall, probably less than 30% of the time because I do most of my musky fishing on the st. lawrence river.


Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but why does that matter?



30-40' water clarity might have something to do with it, too (i.e., you can see EVERYTHING, including muskies LONG before they're within figure 8ing distance).
Guest
Posted 7/30/2009 8:58 AM (#391287 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: RE: How often do you figure 8 and when?


How many fish are you guys catching on the figure 8 each year?
dtaijo174
Posted 7/30/2009 9:05 AM (#391289 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1169


Location: New Hope MN
L turn for clear lakes, full 8 on dirty.
AFchris
Posted 7/30/2009 9:33 AM (#391297 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 265


Location: McGuire AFB, NJ
I eight at least once, with a strong L at boatside. Most of the time I rarely complete the entire eight though. Have only caught two ski's boatside. One I never saw coming and it scared the #*#* out of me when it hit, the other I was able to trigger after a couple eights. Always room for improvment in this department though!!!
THA4
Posted 7/30/2009 10:06 AM (#391310 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 468


Location: Not where I wanna be!
it depends on the water clarity for me, some of the lakes i fish are stained and green most of the year, so I figure 8 EVERY Time, but some of the northern lakes I fish you can see 10-12 feet down, if you no fish is chasing, pull up and cast again.

however..... One time i didnt figure 8 and after i pulled the lure out and was about to cast, a fish came out from under my boat... i have no idea where or how..... but needless to say, i missed him

cant hurt to do it almost every time!
porterhouse
Posted 7/30/2009 10:26 AM (#391316 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Location: Apple Valley
I fiqure 8 after every cast. I don't even think about it anymore. I just do it automatically. Only time I don't use the 8 is when throwing jerkbaits. than I use the L. I say 15-20% of my muskies come on the fiqure 8. This year I'm at 20%so far.

Brian
Sam Ubl
Posted 7/30/2009 11:33 AM (#391333 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Location: SE Wisconsin
Don't be lazy! It will definitely nip you in the butt! Geez, I even do figure eights in my cereal.
PSYS
Posted 7/30/2009 12:28 PM (#391351 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 1030


Location: APPLETON, WI
I think water clarity is important... but as someone else mentioned, if there's fish directly UNDER the boat... I don't care how far down in the water you can see, you're not going to see the fish directly under the boat... or the ones coming up behind you. Just because they aren't in your direct line of sight in ultra-clear water certainly doesn't mean they aren't there.
IAJustin
Posted 7/30/2009 12:31 PM (#391353 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 2015


I always L and transition into "High-outside" (About 1/4 of an 8) if nothing is there - smooth transition into firing the next cast. The only time I use full 8's after every cast is at night or dirty water. As far a success in the 8 it definately makes a difference what lake you are on.
Stein
Posted 7/30/2009 1:14 PM (#391369 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: Re: How often do you figure 8 and when?





Posts: 199


Location: Nebraska
Every cast. If I'm not confident enough in a cast that it wouldn't have justified an 8, why would I throw that cast? While I wish it were less (and more hits on long line) I am at about 30% on the 8. Makes it easier for me to stay committed to it.
Wimuskyfisherman
Posted 7/30/2009 1:19 PM (#391372 - in reply to #391197)
Subject: RE: How often do you figure 8 and when?




Posts: 229


One more thing- Figure eighting at night is much more important than during the day. If you are fishing at night and not doing a real good figure eight every time, you are missing out on fish.

John
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