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Message Subject: calcutta vs. saltist
bulldawg101
Posted 7/22/2009 8:56 PM (#389976)
Subject: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
I don't know whether to get the calcutta 400 B or the daiwa saltist. I would use it for big blades with lots of drag soft plastics and other heavy baits. Which one should I get?
allegheny river kid
Posted 7/22/2009 9:52 PM (#389984 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 463


Location: Sw Pennsylvania
I've had them both. The calcutta is a great great all around reel and will pull big blades but you will be working to drag them, and working hard to burn them, even with a power handle. The diawa is heavy but will burn the big blades with ease, i'd suggest the levelwind models if your gonna be using other baits also.
JRedig
Posted 7/22/2009 10:32 PM (#389992 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Location: Twin Cities
Saltist, no question. But now which size...you'll destroy a 400b fishing blades with any speed, btdt.
esoxfly
Posted 7/23/2009 12:51 AM (#389999 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Will you destroy a TE with blades?
guts
Posted 7/23/2009 6:00 AM (#390009 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 556


i like my satist LW 30 for dawgs and blades it works great better than my 7000
bulldawg101
Posted 7/23/2009 1:03 PM (#390084 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
Where can I get a satist LW 30? I have been looking and I cant find them with the levelwind.
muskie24/7
Posted 7/23/2009 2:46 PM (#390099 - in reply to #389999)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 909


esoxfly - 7/23/2009 1:51 AM

Will you destroy a TE with blades?


Absolutely! They can take alot, but not that much!

Brian
RiverMan
Posted 7/23/2009 2:50 PM (#390100 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 1504


Location: Oregon
Looks like the saltist is only in a right handed model...........
STUSHSKY
Posted 7/23/2009 3:04 PM (#390102 - in reply to #390100)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 375


take a look at the avet sx models. they only come in non levelwinds but that's no big deal. that's the direction i recently went since i use only left handed reels.
i am extremely pleased with it and also like the fact that they are american made!. you will also have your choice of one or two speed models. cabbagekeyrodandreel.com. is where i purchased mine from. talk to eddie....

Edited by STUSHSKY 7/23/2009 3:13 PM
Windburn
Posted 7/23/2009 5:31 PM (#390117 - in reply to #389999)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 115


Location: Birch Run
esoxfly - 7/23/2009 12:51 AM

Will you destroy a TE with blades?

Over time any reel can be broken, but your 400TE is more than addequate for double 10's. I have a 400B without a power handle and I don't think dbl 10's pull hard at all. For burning though you need a Saltist or Trinidad.
gtp888
Posted 7/23/2009 6:43 PM (#390144 - in reply to #390084)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
bulldawg101 - 7/23/2009 1:03 PM

Where can I get a satist LW 30? I have been looking and I cant find them with the levelwind.


You can get them here...

http://www.jandh.com/p-1333-daiwa-saltist-levelwind-reels.aspx
bulldawg101
Posted 7/23/2009 8:22 PM (#390167 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
could I still be able to bring the big blades in with a calcutta pretty easily?
esoxfly
Posted 7/23/2009 9:27 PM (#390173 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
So lemme get this straight, for blades you want a higher or lower gear ratio? Do you want 4.9:1 or do you want 6.1:1?
gtp888
Posted 7/24/2009 6:16 AM (#390217 - in reply to #390173)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
esoxfly - 7/23/2009 9:27 PM

So lemme get this straight, for blades you want a higher or lower gear ratio? Do you want 4.9:1 or do you want 6.1:1?


It depends....some want the higher gear ratio to burn 10's, and some want the lower ratio for ease of retrieve.
STUSHSKY
Posted 7/24/2009 6:40 AM (#390218 - in reply to #390217)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 375


for example...with a 2 speed avet sx you can blow db 10's out of the water pretty easy all day long if you choose to when it's in the 6:1 / 36" per crank mode and when you switch it to low gear, 3.8:1 / 23" per crank you can't even tell the blades are turning until it's next to the boat!
bulldawg101
Posted 7/24/2009 10:21 AM (#390249 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
Could a daiwa luna be used for pulling big blades and dawgs and everything and is it more versatile than a saltist?
STUSHSKY
Posted 7/24/2009 10:43 AM (#390255 - in reply to #390249)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 375


i've used two lunas for 5 years now and greased / oiled 'em once a month and they are smoother than when new and have yet to replace a single part. great for big plastics and eveything else down to 1 oz bucks when adjusted properly. i don't own a saltist but i have a non levelwind avet and in my opinion yes the luna is more versatile overall but 5 casts with a db 10 with a luna and i took it off...it beat me up compared now to using the avet sx for db 10's...
bulldawg101
Posted 7/24/2009 11:46 AM (#390272 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
what reel is versatile enough to be able to pull double tens and big blades but still be able to use it for heavy soft plastics and other heavy baits?
guts
Posted 7/24/2009 11:49 AM (#390274 - in reply to #390272)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 556


bulldawg101 - 7/24/2009 11:46 AM

what reel is versatile enough to be able to pull double tens and big blades but still be able to use it for heavy soft plastics and other heavy baits?

saltist
Hammskie
Posted 7/24/2009 11:54 AM (#390276 - in reply to #390084)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
bulldawg101 - 7/23/2009 1:03 PM

Where can I get a satist LW 30? I have been looking and I cant find them with the levelwind.


Go into Thorne Brothers in Fridley and they'll get you set up with the reel and spool it w/ Masterbraid.

I know they have them, as I bought one yesterday.

Catch 'em!!!
aNDY
Hammskie
Posted 7/24/2009 12:02 PM (#390279 - in reply to #390272)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 697


Location: Minnetonka
bulldawg101 - 7/24/2009 11:46 AM

what reel is versatile enough to be able to pull double tens and big blades but still be able to use it for heavy soft plastics and other heavy baits?


High end - Shimano Calcutta 700TE

Low end - Shimano Tekota 700
JRedig
Posted 7/24/2009 1:15 PM (#390303 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Location: Twin Cities
Name an american reel in the $180 price range that can do what a saltist can....
STUSHSKY
Posted 7/24/2009 1:24 PM (#390307 - in reply to #390303)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 375


if $220.00 is in the "range"...avet sx made in california
gtp888
Posted 7/24/2009 1:47 PM (#390312 - in reply to #390276)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Location: Sun Prairie, WI
Real easy answer...if I feel the product is superior, that's where my money goes. PERIOD. I don't care if it's made on Mars. If I feel a product fits my needs better, that's where my money goes. If it's made in the US, even better. If it isn't, too bad. Then the US should build that particular product (pick one) better than the overseas competitors. For an example, check out any US car company and why the Japanese slapped their face in the hallway, kissed their girlfriend, and stole their lunch money.
JRedig
Posted 7/24/2009 2:45 PM (#390319 - in reply to #390307)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Location: Twin Cities
STUSHSKY - 7/24/2009 1:24 PM

if $220.00 is in the "range"...avet sx made in california


No levelwind.

Next.
STUSHSKY
Posted 7/24/2009 2:59 PM (#390322 - in reply to #390319)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 375


from what i understand the avet levelwinds will be out soon but out of the gate they realized that many folks prefer left handed reels...
bulldawg101
Posted 7/24/2009 9:52 PM (#390373 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
What about a daiwa luna with a power handle to use for pulling big blades heavy soft plastics and everything in between?
JRedig
Posted 7/24/2009 10:31 PM (#390375 - in reply to #390373)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Location: Twin Cities
bulldawg101 - 7/24/2009 9:52 PM

What about a daiwa luna with a power handle to use for pulling big blades heavy soft plastics and everything in between?


That depends on how fast you want to fish big blades....
bulldawg101
Posted 7/24/2009 10:48 PM (#390376 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
well how fast could you fish them with a luna
Steve Jonesi
Posted 7/24/2009 10:53 PM (#390377 - in reply to #389976)
Subject: Re: calcutta vs. saltist




Posts: 2089


Hahahaha. Are you burning blades(10's and 13's) 14 hrs a day for 7 days a week???? I read somewhere that you HAVE to burn 'em to catch fish. Somebody better tell the fish. I really don't know where this "burning" thing started, but the reel manufacturers must be loving it.LOL. Have had a couple fish in the boat on blades the last 5 years and very few were "burned". Boatside? Now that's another story.Speed triggers 'em to eat. Calcutta 400TE with a power handle is more than adequate. Best I've used. Lunas were great until ani-reverse issues brought me back to Shimano. Leavin' the dance with who brought me. I must be gettin' old.
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