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| They say muskys are a fish of 10000 casts. Does anyone record, how many hours fished per musky in a season? |
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| I never recorded the excact, but, well, at least for me, it definetly does not take thaaat long to boat a musky. |
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| wow 50 'skie good job being so modest  |
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Location: Michigan | I kept very close records for years. It actually varied a lot one year to the next. But overall, with 2 guys in the boat, about 3-6 hours to get a fish in the boat. One year my personal average was 20 hours for a fish (that year sucked...), but another it was 6 hours. I personaly think a fish per day is overall a reasonable average. Of course, many skunks, but also a few very memorable days with multiple fish. My best year was 103 in the boat with 326 hours on the water. |
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| What?......I was just saying |
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| Chadster, thanks your the only musky fisherman including the "professionals" who has given me a definative answer. In the musky business you hear a lot of stories plus big pictures. 103 fish and 326 hours your one guy who's not fishing for "minimum wage" if you know what I mean |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | If one doesn't keep 'track', one cannot answer. Look into the Wisconsin creeling data, that gives a pretty good picture on some of the Muskie waters creeled. |
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Location: Kronenwetter, WI | Ratio not as good as we'd all like, but I have a feeling if it was easy most of us wouldn't be doing this. It's hard work but fun no matter where you fish. What I get a kick out of is guys that claim to catch 2-3 fish each outing.
I'd like to know the average % of fisherman per day that actually boat fish during say, PMTT or WMT, etc....seems like that could be figured out. I think that would be telling. |
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Location: Madison WI | I didn't keep a log of exactly how many hours I put in last year but I think my ratio of muskies per hour was around 0.017, I fished all but about 2 weeks of the season last year. All fishing was done from shore which is most likely why my ratio was so low. |
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| I am no star by any means but in "numbers lakes" in Ontario, 2 -3 fish per day is not unrealistic, but 50" fat fish are rare in these spots. We likely average 2 -3 fish per day on these lakes with fish between 30 and 46 inches. But, I went 3 trips in a row last year and saw nothing too. Of course, just when I was ready to throw in the towel, the next trip was ridonculously good!!!
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Location: Minn. | Here are the final resultsl of the PMTT Fox Chain of Lakes Event. It was a tough bite out there as there were over 80 teams registered to fish but only 13 fish caught in total. 80X2 Fisherman X 16hrs = 2560 manhours divided by 13 fish =196.92 hrs per fish . How many casts in 192 hours? Doesn't seem that easy, even for those that fish them professionally. Alot of times conditions overrule ability. |
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Location: Minnesota | I like the stats muskyfvr! |
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| 168 fish last season in the boat...a fish for every 3.65 hours on the water...
Had many 4+ fish days/nites |
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| Bn: 168 fish--3.65 per hour that's over 75 eight hour days. No big three? Weather, work and women. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Water_pix, you seem to be on some sort of mission to discredit folks, which is kinda rude and will be a problem here...some folks who frequent this place put a ton of Muskies in the net every year, and don't need your approval to do so. Catch your own fish, worry less about what others catch, and we'll all be happier. |
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| Sworrall- I wasn't on a mission to discredit anyone...your the one who seems negative. Bn catches alot of fish...spends slot of time doing so. He's fortuate to have the freedom to do so. Chill dude, the economy will get better |
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Location: Watertown, MN | Tournament usually fall into a 10-15% participant catch fish, remember they miss sunrise, sunset, might get moon, and many angler are beating the key areas to death, prefishing stings a few fish. Although at the 2004 PMTT Champ, is was like 47 fish for 50 teams.
You can average lower hours per fish by fishing numbers lakes, or simply propably like brad and some other is hit the water after work for sunset and hit a good window and stick 2 or 3 fish in 4-5 hours. I will see storm moving in and can be on the water in 20 minutes, and things can happen fast.
Like steve stated look at creel survey, I was on LCO for several years, 90+ hour per ski, I though I sucked on that lake, they saw that and felt pretty good.
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Somewhere around 160 hours on the water so far this year with only 4 fish for my total. (44, 40, 39.5, 37)
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| Water_pix - 5/14/2009 5:22 PM
They say muskys are a fish of 10000 casts. Does anyone record, how many hours fished per musky in a season?
For me, the fish of 10,000 casts is no exaggeration. (But I'm not asking for a pity party.) Truly, I think once you get the basic skills down, and some experience on the water, the most important factor in the success of the amateur angler is where you fish. You are going to catch a lot more muskies per hour fished in North or Central Minnesota, North Wisconsin, or Ontario than you are in SW Pennsylvania. |
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Location: The Yahara Chain | Brad what was your fish per man hour? I know you are using 'boat' hours for that total which is deceiving.
I'm sure it is still an impressive number as I know you had a great season.
Edited by Bytor 5/15/2009 10:09 AM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Water_pix,
I was referring to the post from you I removed. Please watch your tone, this is a good subject and worth looking into.
That said, I used to log every fish caught in my rig when I was guiding full time. We averaged about 1.5 fish a day, but the number of anglers varied, so I don't have any idea what the man hours were.
Two seasons back, TJ and I had a run of about 7 weeks that was really interesting, averaging two per evening for about 3 hours fished. Last year, things were different on the two lakes we were hitting, and the average dropped to what would probably compute out to about 1/2 a fish per evening. Less time on the water, feeding windows that were narrower, and different structure elements in play scattering the fish which made contacting multiple fish in a short period of time more difficult. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | 2009 - 45 Hours on the water at about 4 hours per trip after work except opening weekend / 12 fish out of my boat = About 1 fish p/outing or 4 hours.
This year, while only 13 days running here in Southern WI, the bite started out stronger than previous years from the get go, but as I discussed with a friend last night, this is that transitional period where opening patterns & tactics are no longer reliable. Water temps still linger around 60 degrees, and summer patterns aren't in full effect yet. While I have not personally boated a fish the last three times out, my net has gotten wet 2 of those three times. Last night was interesting to say the least. . . The only fish I hooked up to last night was purely incidental. Ryan and I picked up James from the launch and as we slowly motored away I unhooked my lure and with only the 5 or 6 feet of line out, began ripping it in the prop wash to watch its action - low and behold a mid 30 was on it in seconds. Ryan killed the motor on my word and I hooked up briefly on the eight - CRAZY! We raised 6 more yesterday evening, but no takers. My group of guys/gals have had a stellar opening couple of weeks though, with all of us keeping up with each others numbers and sizes (nothing over 40 yet) 
I can't say the same about last season. James and I had a thorough season, but it took "too many" (as he would say) hours before Ryan started a well deserve 1 fish a night trend that didn't start until September, but lasted him for several trips. Sometimes you have a hot stick, other times you don't. Most memorable for me was last season doubling up three outings in a row, one of which was two fish in two consecutive casts. . . Pretty neat.
Edited by Sam Ubl 5/15/2009 9:13 AM
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Location: Southern W.Va. | I have logged in a total of 2 fish in about 20 hrs of water time this year, a 35" & 36" musky. 10 hrs. per fish and I think I've got a better average then last year. Maybe I'm not much of a fishermen but I sure have fun !!
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Location: SE Wisconsin | I wouldn't question your status of credibility as a fisherman. . . Different people fish different water and some are just fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Great point, Sam. |
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| It gets really interesting if you start breaking down those ratios more and break down the data for legal fish, night fish, day fish, shallow water, open water...and on and on and lets you see that just a straight up number of fish boated per year or on specific baits can be shown to be a self fulfilling prophecy. I've been logging how many hours I've used specific baits just to get a more clear picture of how this plays out.
Guys throw numbers around of how many fish were boated but to me that doesn't tell the true story. Looking at two seasons I had a few years back one saw 49 fish and the other had 32. The 49 fish year I was out over 100 days, the following year when 32 were boated I was on the water maybe 40 times. Some will get hung up on the higher number and think that was the better year, the reality of it is that it was not.
Crunching these numbers is a pretty cool thing and can tell you alot. I prefer to add as many different controls to it (i.e. examining the data more specifically....hours per legal fish, hours using specific baits, hours per fish caught in complete darkness, hours fished over open water....etc.) because just having a bottom line of "1 fish caught every 4 hours" doesn't satisfy my need for information. On the other hand, I can take a look and identify more specific trends and this has proven to increase my efficiency and the time between fish has continued to decrease substantially. |
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| I think I've put about 46 hours on kinkaid this year. It takes me 4 hours to get there, so when I go it's for a full day and I don't get to pick and choose conditions. Personally I've got 6 fish, which is a fish every 7.7 hours. If you add in couple of fish caught by my dad while he was with me, it's 5.75 hours per fish. It's crazy how much these numbers can get skewed though. Mar. 6, 5 fish between my dad and I in 8 hours. 2 other outings with 18 hours total-0 fish (granted 1 of these outings was during spawn and 1 was immediately post-spawn and one of the most brutal days I've had). |
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| If you look at the IMTT on kinkaid a couple of weeks ago, 36 boats with 28 fish caught. Total hours of fishing: 16. Assuming every boat had 2 people and fished the entire event, that's 1,152 hours of fishing or 1 fish for every 41 hours. If you take out the top teams numbers-they blew away everybody else with6 fish, you get 35 boats with 22 fish-1 fish for every 50 hours. |
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Location: SE Wisconsin | Ulbian, you just took it to the next level, and I agree, keeping detailed record goes a lot further than the entertainments sake of divying up hours fished by fish caught. Some of the biggest names in our industry have libraries of data they have collected over the years. Another point, unlike Lake-Link, as a family of musky fisherman, you don't find a whole lot of "Where do I go", "What color do I use", "What bait to try. . ." Instead, as musky hunters, it's understood that fish don't come that easy as to live and die by the answer someone gave you. Keeping records through the years is just another addition to molding yourself into a more intuitive musky fisherman.
Some talk like they've read from a book, others talk like they wrote the book.
Edited by Sam Ubl 5/15/2009 10:22 AM
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Location: North/Central WI | Are you guys counting all muskies? Legal muskies? Muskies of a certain size? Tournament stats are only going to include legal fish for that body of water. Can't really compare those stats to somebody who counts every 26". See what I am getting at? Too many variables. |
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