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bulldawg101
Posted 5/13/2009 5:44 PM (#377945)
Subject: musky innovations rods





Posts: 53


Location: Stillwater
What is your opinion on the musky innovations bulldawg series rods? Do you like it? Just want to know what you guys think of them.
shaley
Posted 5/13/2009 6:11 PM (#377948 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1184


Location: Iowa Great Lakes
I have one and for big rubber it does fine but I won't cast it all day. It mainly collects dust or lays on the boat deck untill I feel the need to throw 11" Curlies or bigger baits.
bassinbob84
Posted 5/13/2009 6:36 PM (#377952 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 646


Location: In a shack in the woods
I have an 8'6 and a 9' I really like both but wish I would have bought two 9 footers. They have a stiffer tip on them but can cast all day without problems. I just got them so I only have 1 day throwing gliders for pike but I had no problems with them. For $50 more though you can get the new thorne rod. I had a chance to play with that at the musky expo and was very impressed. The thorne is my next rod. If thorne wouldn't have came out with that it would probably be an mi though.
brmusky
Posted 5/13/2009 8:38 PM (#377979 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 335


Location: Minnesota
I have an 8'6" and I cast everything with it - I like it.
Baby Mallard
Posted 5/13/2009 9:19 PM (#378002 - in reply to #377979)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Good sticks. I have 2. An 8 ' 6" and a 9'.
muskylog.com
Posted 5/14/2009 9:04 PM (#378261 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 32


Location: Minnesota
I used an 8'6" quite extensively last season. I utilized it as an all purpose rod most of the time. I threw everything from double blades to Suicks to Bulldawgs. No issues, it works good.
Joe Cal
Posted 5/14/2009 9:05 PM (#378262 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 294


Location: Bloomer, Wi
cant say anything bad about these rods I have had the 8' super mag rod and the 8' monster mag rod. Love em' will be getting more for sure.
esoxfly
Posted 7/11/2009 10:47 PM (#388154 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Are they American made?
PIKEMASTER
Posted 7/11/2009 11:27 PM (#388160 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods





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esoxfly
Posted 7/11/2009 11:56 PM (#388164 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
American made, do you know? I want to get a third rod, and I have a St. Croix Premier, and a MI Super Mag. I'd like another and like both of these brands, but was curious as to if MI rods are made offshore or not.
guest
Posted 7/12/2009 5:51 AM (#388168 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods


They are made in China
esoxfly
Posted 7/12/2009 7:52 AM (#388172 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Kinda thought so, but couldn't find it on the rod, tag or website.
RIVER MUSKY
Posted 7/12/2009 8:49 AM (#388175 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 731


Location: martinsburg wv
mi rods on sale bookems musky shop
RonTugs3
Posted 7/12/2009 9:44 AM (#388181 - in reply to #388175)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 29


Location: Chicago
st. croix's making the triumph's in china and are opening up shop in central america somewhere. a matter of time before all their products are made out of the country.
esoxfly
Posted 7/12/2009 12:25 PM (#388196 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Yeah, I guess I just like American-made rods. I like Sage fly rods because they're still in Bainbridge Is, WA. You can tour the shop, take a blank back for replacement and they go in the back and bring out a new section to replace it and you're out the door.
Zero It
Posted 7/12/2009 1:14 PM (#388202 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 31


I have a super mag bull dawg 8' 6" only have been able to use it once, works good for the double 10's and even lighter bucktails. My 7'6" St. Croix was way to light for double 10"s . Found it at Gander Mountain for only $99.00 I think they were $150.00 at Cabela's Was not marked anywhere on the rod were it was made, might of bought something else if I knew it was from China, should of figured for only $99.00

Edited by Zero It 7/12/2009 1:15 PM
JKahler
Posted 7/12/2009 2:31 PM (#388211 - in reply to #388181)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 1288


Location: WI
RonTugs3 - 7/12/2009 9:44 AM

st. croix's making the triumph's in china and are opening up shop in central america somewhere. a matter of time before all their products are made out of the country.


That's why I don't buy the Triumph series. If all of their stuff gets outsourced I will probably stop buying it. I'm not willing to pay their price for foreign made rods.

I had an 8ft super mag MI rod coming, I scored a super deal on it. I used a 9ft last fall and liked it a lot.
Guest
Posted 7/13/2009 10:04 AM (#388333 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods


Aren't the bulldogs made in china too... Are you going to quit buying a bulldog?
Flambeauski
Posted 7/13/2009 10:51 AM (#388344 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 4343


Location: Smith Creek
St. Croix's plant in China no longer exists, operations moved to Mexico, no plans on closing the Park Falls plant. It would make headlines in the fishing industry if they did.
muskiewhored
Posted 7/13/2009 6:20 PM (#388449 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Location: Oswego, IL
I highly doubt they would have thier top end products out sourced
esoxfly
Posted 7/13/2009 9:10 PM (#388472 - in reply to #388333)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
Guest - 7/13/2009 11:04 AM

Aren't the bulldogs made in china too... Are you going to quit buying a bulldog?


No, that's ridiculous. I buy American-made when I can and when given the choice. If I'm going to spend $200 on a MI rod or $200 on a St. Croix Premier, I'll buy the Premier any day. I'm not calling for a boycott on anything, just support for American-made products. I've always done well with my rods and reels made here. I usually pay more, but there's a reason why they're the best products out there.

Edited by esoxfly 7/13/2009 9:14 PM
welldriller
Posted 7/13/2009 9:33 PM (#388474 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods




Posts: 402


Location: Eagle River, WI
How come you can post in here as a guest? I'm sick of reading posts where people throw in there off-hand remarks and the hide behind "guest".

Anyways, I have a 8' MI Super Magnum it's rated for 4-16oz. It seems a little heavy and the cork is a bigger diameter than any of my other rods. It throws a magnum bulldawg nice though. Overall I think it's a pretty good rod for the money.
JKahler
Posted 7/13/2009 11:39 PM (#388500 - in reply to #388333)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods




Posts: 1288


Location: WI
Guest - 7/13/2009 10:04 AM

Aren't the bulldogs made in china too... Are you going to quit buying a bulldog?


What I meant was, if all the St Croix rods were made outside of the US, but still being sold at their current prices, then no, I probably would not buy anymore.

The MI rod I'm getting is brand new from a friend and my price was less than $100. So for that price, I will compromise.

All of my rods but 2 or 3, are St Croix.

Edited to add, I'm not a huge rubber bait fan, but I try and buy the Shack Attack baits pver the MI ones since they're made in the US.

Edited by JKahler 7/13/2009 11:41 PM
esoxfly
Posted 7/13/2009 11:47 PM (#388501 - in reply to #388474)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
welldriller - 7/13/2009 10:33 PM

How come you can post in here as a guest? I'm sick of reading posts where people throw in there off-hand remarks and the hide behind "guest".
.


I've often thought the same thing.
JBush
Posted 7/13/2009 11:57 PM (#388503 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods




Posts: 311


Location: Ontario
All my rods are St.Croix too but I grabbed two of the 9'0 Monster Mags for Opener this year and love them. They took my sales inquiry by email after 9pm on a weeknight and I had the rods within a week. That's my kind of service and I think that's worth noting. If a business can be more profitable while offering me a good product at a fair price I don't care if their plant's on Mars. ( The Global Economy or where they made the lure I'm casting is about the furthest thing from my mind come Saturday mornings, that's just me). The 9'er manhandles Pounders, Mag Suzy Suckers, 13" Bobbies and it also really nice for tandem #16 bootails. I'm going to use the other one as a trolling rod. Its graphite/glass composite and will be great for Plows, Hookers etc with all that length and the little bounce in the tip. On the one I use casting, I busted off the 'art-decco' butt cap within two days. This has also happened to all my Croix rods that I use larger lures with too. They just epoxy on the little cork cup. Filed off the little bit of blank that was poking out so the grip is all one solid piece now. These and the Okumas are the best rods for the money I've seen. The 9' Monster Mag is a load to throw all day but I really like it. I bought them to toss 2lb Dawgs with and that's stretching it a bit. Maybe I'll be in better shape by fall though Haven't hit a muskie on mine yet but have really messed up the wknd for a few pike this year so far. The 9' length alone is really nice.
Pike newbie
Posted 2/21/2010 11:38 AM (#424952 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: RE: musky innovations rods


I am a once a year Northern Pike/Walleye fly in fisherman. Allowing for walleye gear, weight is an issue.
The smaller MI rods are listed at 3/4 to 4 oz which menas they should be able to handle a regular bull dawg. ( I know no heavier). Would this work as a one rod NP rod to throw my 3/4 and 1 oz spoons up to the regular Bull Dawg?
I did throw one last year ok on a borrowed Fenwick HMG 7' 3/4 to 2 oz and caught a 43 inch pike.

Tackle Industries
Posted 2/21/2010 2:01 PM (#424979 - in reply to #388202)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





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Location: Land of the Musky
Zero It - 7/12/2009 1:14 PM
......Was not marked anywhere on the rod were it was made, might of bought something else if I knew it was from China, should of figured for only $99.00


"Made in China" should be on the Bulldawg rod or tag. I bet if you look its there. It is a legal requirement by the FTC and enforced by US Customs for any product sold in the USA. Also has to be marked on the product at musky shows if the lure or rod is taken out of the packaging. If not, the seller is plain breaking the law and they can be fined huge fines or the company can be shut down. IMO its a good law and lets the consumer know where the product was made. Andy from Shack Attack even went one step further for his lures. He stamps "Made In America" on the tails of his swimbaits.
Sam Ubl
Posted 2/25/2010 2:30 PM (#425797 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Location: SE Wisconsin
Great stick for a moderate price. Brad is great to work with and has been more than generous in helping me out at times. I throw everything from St. Croix, G-Loomis, Okumas and MI, and while I did admittedly have a defective MI rod snap on the forward heave from the backswing, Brad relayed me to the Mfg contact, and backed up that guys cust. service with his own, "If he doesn't help you, call me and I will!" Long story short, I was taken care of, but knowing that Brad stands up for his customers really made me feel appreciated. Currently I have a pair of 8 footers, an 8'6 a 9' and just had Rollie's put a 10 footer on hold for me for pick up this weekend. Versatile, aesthetically pleasing and I love the long handle with the hour glass tapering.

James, while I haven't thrown your stick yet nor met you personally (for some reason), I know you're a real stand up guy and one of the most generous in the industry. I look forward to my opportunity to use your new rod also, I know I can trust it and most importantly, you.
muskie_man
Posted 2/25/2010 2:46 PM (#425799 - in reply to #425797)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 1237


Location: South Portsmouth, KY
Sam Ubl - 2/25/2010 3:30 PM

Great stick for a moderate price. Brad is great to work with and has been more than generous in helping me out at times. I throw everything from St. Croix, G-Loomis, Okumas and MI, and while I did admittedly have a defective MI rod snap on the forward heave from the backswing, Brad relayed me to the Mfg contact, and backed up that guys cust. service with his own, "If he doesn't help you, call me and I will!" Long story short, I was taken care of, but knowing that Brad stands up for his customers really made me feel appreciated. Currently I have a pair of 8 footers, an 8'6 a 9' and just had Rollie's put a 10 footer on hold for me for pick up this weekend. Versatile, aesthetically pleasing and I love the long handle with the hour glass tapering.

James, while I haven't thrown your stick yet nor met you personally (for some reason), I know you're a real stand up guy and one of the most generous in the industry. I look forward to my opportunity to use your new rod also, I know I can trust it and most importantly, you.


When is the 10 foot rod coming out?
edalz
Posted 2/25/2010 3:28 PM (#425808 - in reply to #377945)
Subject: Re: musky innovations rods





Posts: 458


The 10' rods have been out for a while and I got one at the 2009 Chicago show. I got another 10' rod this past January at the 2010 show and was told by Rollie and Helens that they were clearing them out. The rod I got was half price and R & H said they did not sell well and they could not ship the rods because of the length. I really like the 10' rods and on rough days it is much easier and safer to do figure 8's.
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