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| How much does this new topwater by Suick cost? I thought I heard someone say they were being sold for $25. If that is true it is really outrageous. It's 4" long and made form wood people. I would be willing to pay 1/2 that considering Top Raiders are only $16.50. |
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| luckily, you have options and you're not forced to do or buy anything.
if other less expensive options are more to your liking and/or budget, choose those instead.
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| Thanks for answering the question!  |
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Location: Antioch, IL | I complained about bait prices and decided to start making my own. After I put in the time to learn what I was doing and the $ for the components I thought to myself.."Yeah, those prices are just about right". If you don't want to spend the cash make your own...it's just wood. |
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| I bought one at the Chicago show and personally can't wait to try it out. Sure $25 is expensive, but if it catches fish, who cares. Besides, I know plenty of guys who have bought several DCG's at $25 a piece only to decide that they needed a new $600 rod and reel combo to throw them effectively...now that's an expensive lure, but it catches fish...that's why we are all here. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | here is a 2005 prototype P.H. Nightwalker ... i wouldn't sell "spud" for a hundred bucks. if you buy this bait now produced and marketed by Suick i think you'll like it.
mine has shiney and sharp japanese shoes ...
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| At least someone was willing to admit $25 for a wooden lure with a wire through it was expensive. I am sure it will catch fish. Tail rotating topwater lures have been catching muskies for years. I always shake my head when the attacks come when some one states the painfully obvious. My guess is that they won't be priced at $25 for long. I guess I'll just wait.
I also find it funny that $25 lure would need its' hooks changed out. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | DJS - 3/2/2009 5:06 PM
At least someone was willing to admit $25 for a wooden lure with a wire through it was expensive. I am sure it will catch fish. Tail rotating topwater lures have been catching muskies for years. I always shake my head when the attacks come when some one states the painfully obvious. My guess is that they won't be priced at $25 for long. I guess I'll just wait.
I also find it funny that $25 lure would need its' hooks changed out.
dude ... slow down, read ...
"2005 prototype" ... it is now officially 2009 (that's 4 years from the time of this prototype to the time it is coming out through suick), so if you read and do the math you'll understand that 1. i got mine before they were sold commercially 2. before they were priced and 3. it was not made by suick but by the guy who came up with it's design. i changed hooks to gamakatsu's because i like them and not because of any fault of the now 2009 bait design (remember 2005).
if anyone bought into the "tiny-turbo" of a few years back ... they paid at least that much for a piece of junk that had a head that rotated and a body that sunk taking away the action of the bait.
this is a very small profile bait with a very deep and throaty sound ... the head won't spin and it won't dive.
the bait works ... in spades.
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| I was at Rollies the other day and noticed that the ones in the package have a little 'jog' or bend in the wire behind the tail section. The 1st models I saw at the shows and a couple hanging at Rollies didn't have this. Wondering why the change. I had a topwater with a bend in the wire break on LOTW a couple years ago. Wire fatigue was my guess as it broke at the bend. Any thoughts anyone? |
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| Any thoughts anyone?
My thoughts are that there are about a billion bucktails out there that all have bends to make the eye loops. Those bends seem to hold up okay.
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Guest - 3/2/2009 7:29 AM
How much does this new topwater by Suick cost? I thought I heard someone say they were being sold for $25. If that is true it is really outrageous. It's 4" long and made form wood people. I would be willing to pay 1/2 that considering Top Raiders are only $16.50.
This is why America is in trouble,we are buying all the stuff made in China.It's flat out cheaper and now were paying the price,and probably for a long time. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | What? |
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Location: Lebanon,Mo | Im just saying you cant complain about price when one is made in China and the other here.Of course the American made product will be higher,we pay more and material is higher,but I will give more for something made right here.Dont get me wrong,I do buy China,and do like some stuff,but 75% of my baits are American made.Just my two cents...
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| Those new suicks are Awsome, and I think I will CHOOSE to pay the $25 for one!
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Location: Des Moines IA | Fish and Whistle - 3/2/2009 1:02 PM
I complained about bait prices and decided to start making my own. After I put in the time to learn what I was doing and the $ for the components I thought to myself.."Yeah, those prices are just about right". If you don't want to spend the cash make your own...it's just wood.
I totally agree, it's just wood, but that doesn't make production lure "easy" |
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| Missourimuskyhunter, the Suick product is made in the USA and the Topraider is made in the USA. Two different products, two different manufacturers and two different materials. Has nothing to do with one being made in China.
Jonesi, Hansen told me they decided to do the wire bend redesign to provide extra insurance that the bait wouldn't roll. Didn't seem to be a problem but what the heck, it works. |
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Location: WI | $20-25 is about what I expect to pay for a musky bait these days. If that's too high, wait for a used one or pick one up during fall/off season sales/clearance. |
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| MuskieMike - 3/2/2009 11:08 PM
Fish and Whistle - 3/2/2009 1:02 PM
I complained about bait prices and decided to start making my own. After I put in the time to learn what I was doing and the $ for the components I thought to myself.."Yeah, those prices are just about right". If you don't want to spend the cash make your own...it's just wood.
I totally agree, it's just wood, but that doesn't make production lure "easy"
hey man even a 10 years old can build a lure like that................
i am sure i can build one in less than a hours
anyway buy one and enjoy it |
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| mota - 3/3/2009 1:49 AM
MuskieMike - 3/2/2009 11:08 PM
Fish and Whistle - 3/2/2009 1:02 PM
I complained about bait prices and decided to start making my own. After I put in the time to learn what I was doing and the $ for the components I thought to myself.."Yeah, those prices are just about right". If you don't want to spend the cash make your own...it's just wood.
I totally agree, it's just wood, but that doesn't make production lure "easy"
hey man even a 10 years old can build a lure like that................
i am sure i can build one in less than a hours
anyway buy one and enjoy it
try it.
building a lure and building a lure that works the way you thought it would are two completely different things. |
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| do you have any experience concern what you said? |
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| mota - 3/3/2009 7:39 AM
do you have any experience concern what you said?
yeah, i'd say i have a little experience to support my claim
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Location: minocqua, wi. | the rumbler and the tiny turbo are both examples of how this is not so easy. both baits were a big buzz and flopped when it came time for production for the consumer market. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | jonnysled - 3/3/2009 8:06 AM
the rumbler and the tiny turbo are both examples of how this is not so easy. both baits were a big buzz and flopped when it came time for production for the consumer market.
Dam... just picked up a Rumbler. How did these lures 'flop'? Did they not make the intended sound/action or just not work period? Curious to know what I'm in for.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | some worked fine and others the matching of the fronts and backs was such that they would stop turning. you can usually "fix" them and make em work. i was just going through my topwaters yesterday and that was one i paid 25 bucks for during the buzz ... i giggled and then started trying to fix it because i figured i'd have a hard time selling it.
it's a great bait ... don't get me wrong, it's just that when they went to "make" them, not all came out as intended. search the archives and you should find plenty of information on them from last year. |
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Location: Grand Rapids MN | Cool.. Thanks man..
Did a search and seen a few of the 'issues' with really no fixes but I'll figure it out once open water gets here. I spend hours on the dock testing & tuning each spring; it's expected.
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| Thanks for the response Pete! |
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| BALDY - 3/3/2009 7:55 AM
mota - 3/3/2009 7:39 AM
do you have any experience concern what you said?
yeah, i'd say i have a little experience to support my claim
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| esox50 - 3/3/2009 9:52 AM
BALDY - 3/3/2009 7:55 AM
mota - 3/3/2009 7:39 AM
do you have any experience concern what you said?
yeah, i'd say i have a little experience to support my claim
Oh you're killin me. My side hurts :-O
I just fell out of my chair laughing so hard. |
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| Did you look at his profile?
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Location: Antioch, IL | Hey Mota,
Just FYI, Baldy has probably built more baits that you and I have ever seen...and built them well. It's is easy to say a bait is just wood and wire, but to make one that can come alive in the water is a whole different ball game. A car is just metal, rubber and plastic, but you won't see me building one. I highly suggest to anyone and everyone, Build a bait. You will gain a much better understanding of all of those expensive lures in your box. Check out the basement bait section on here. |
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