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Message Subject: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?
The Reaper
Posted 2/24/2009 3:48 PM (#362465)
Subject: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?


Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?

TR
MACK
Posted 2/24/2009 3:50 PM (#362466 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?




Posts: 1080


Simply put:

No. The "era" of a single bladed bait is not "over."


There's a time and a place for each and every tool that's available to us.

To each their own, in their own time and in their own place.

Don't totally abandon tools like this...you may miss out on opportunities.

Remember this:

Fish don't have the capacity or the knowledge to know what is or what isn't the latest fad in the fishing scene. Only fishermen do. The fish, they're opportunistic feeders.

Edited by MACK 2/24/2009 3:51 PM
The Reaper
Posted 2/24/2009 3:57 PM (#362469 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?


So Mack, when do you use the traditional bucktail vs. the double bladed variety?
djwilliams
Posted 2/24/2009 4:00 PM (#362470 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?




Posts: 767


Location: Ames, Iowa
Single bladed all the time for me so far. Can anyone recommend a double bladed tail that you can cast for a long time with less wear on the reel an hands?
djw
big gun
Posted 2/24/2009 4:08 PM (#362471 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?




Posts: 462


Location: Madison Wi. Chain
Single bladed Colorado bucktails are great for working high in the water column over weeds. Often, my first choice for this type of situation. BG
claud_bahls
Posted 2/24/2009 4:20 PM (#362472 - in reply to #362471)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?




Posts: 49


i like the single blade rabid squirrel tail from monster lures
great for burning over cabbage
plus tanner is one heck of a guide too
waterthumper
Posted 2/24/2009 4:39 PM (#362479 - in reply to #362472)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?




Location: Northwest Wisconsin
The single blade bucktail is a great "locator" bait. Although the Cowgirl bait is a great producer bait, like stated before, each has it's time and place. Ever throw a "Thumpertail" bucktail? It has a great thump and flash, and it's a single blade.
JimtenHaaf
Posted 2/24/2009 5:35 PM (#362486 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
The Reaper - 2/24/2009 4:48 PM

If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?

TR



When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel.
Will Schultz
Posted 2/24/2009 7:23 PM (#362515 - in reply to #362486)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 6:35 PM 

 When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel.

It all depends on what reel you are using for that little bucktail...

JimtenHaaf
Posted 2/24/2009 7:45 PM (#362521 - in reply to #362515)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 8:23 PM

JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 6:35 PM 

 When HIGH SPEED is the trigger. I know a lot of people claim they burn double 10's, but there is no way they are moving it as fast as I can move a single blade with a 6.4:1 reel.

It all depends on what reel you are using for that little bucktail...




HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will?
Will Schultz
Posted 2/24/2009 8:07 PM (#362524 - in reply to #362521)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 8:45 PM  HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will? :)

;)  

Sort of...

If your 6.4:1 reel is a smaller baitcaster it is probably bringing in 28-31" per turn of the handle, if someone is burning a double ten with a 6:1 reel that is bringing in 35-48" per turn they are going to be at least as fast if not faster. Burning is burning, whether a double ten at 5 mph or a little french blade tail at 5 mph... Something like a pound of feathers weighing the same as a pound of lead but not the same as the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.

sorenson
Posted 2/24/2009 8:11 PM (#362525 - in reply to #362524)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 1764


Location: Ogden, Ut
Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 7:07 PM

JimtenHaaf - 2/24/2009 8:45 PM  HAHAHA!!! Is that a challenge, Will? :)

;)  

Sort of...

ISomething like a pound of feathers weighing the same as a pound of lead but not the same as the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow.



African or European swallow?
sbro73
Posted 2/24/2009 8:18 PM (#362527 - in reply to #362470)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail OVER?





Posts: 82


Location: Minneapolis,Mn
Try Double Showgirls, a step down from DCG's, they will be a little easier!

Edited by sbro73 2/24/2009 8:21 PM
Ohio Musky Hunter
Posted 2/24/2009 8:20 PM (#362530 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 9


I do like double bladed bucktails, but I'm still partial to the Mepps Single Bladed Tandem bucktails. The natural Squirrel is my favorite, although I can't find them in tandem so I order the parts and make them myself. Bucktails in general are very strong lures, but I've put a few of my Mepps through hell and they are always my choice when fishing gets tough. I guess you just fall back on what you're confident with. I usually pick up a few new lures every year, but I usually restock my Mepps as well. But I do agree, there is a time and a place for every lure (except the pigs ).

Edited by Ohio Musky Hunter 2/24/2009 8:22 PM
Will Schultz
Posted 2/24/2009 8:21 PM (#362531 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Location: Grand Rapids, MI

sorenson - 2/24/2009 9:11 PM  African or European swallow?

I don't know that...

I still owe you a shrubbery.

 

The Reaper - 2/24/2009 4:48 PM Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?

TR

Sorry Reaper. Now that this thread is going a different direction I'll point it back.

There are still many occasions when I'll throw a single blade whether a little french #5 or a fluted #7 or 8. Early in the year in clear water I like the little french blades, something about that vibration in cold water <55. The smaller tails/blades also seem to shine when fish can see for a long distance even if the water is shallow. Sure the double tens will work in all these situations but that doesn't make them the best tool all of the time.

sorenson
Posted 2/24/2009 8:33 PM (#362538 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 1764


Location: Ogden, Ut
The Reaper - 2/24/2009 2:48 PM

Now that double bladed bucktails, especially the #10 and #8 bladed variety, have become such a staple in many people's tackle boxes, is anyone still throwing the old-school single-bladed in-line bucktail? If so, when are you reaching for one versus the other?

TR


I can't say that I have noticed a huge difference in the ability to move fish when comparing single and double bladed bucktails. Now, bear in mind that I only fish for pure strain muskies about 5-6 days a year at most, and spend the rest of the year on waters containing only tigers as the Esocid species. So my experience base is extremely limited for comparing the two on pure strain fish. I do seem to get more action on the single blade variety for tigers; they tend to be quite a bit more, uh, cowardly than the pures. Preferences toward smaller baits and overall hesitancy to strike boatside are fairly substantiated tendencies for them. I have had them chase double 10s, but get way more action on smaller, single blade bucks. So for local waters, I'd say I'm going smaller and single blade 70-80% of the time now. When in waters w/ pures, I'm still usually cheating to the bigger doubles though.
S.
tyler k
Posted 2/24/2009 9:35 PM (#362559 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 409


Location: Almond, WI
Nothing is going to make me "give up" on my single blades. I'll be honest, hour for hour, I started doing a lot better when I started throwing single colorado blades as opposed to single french blades (never cared much for fluted, throw them less than the other two). Doubles put out more vibration, which can be helpful, but you gotta put the bait in the right place still. I'd take a well fished single blade over a poorly fished double any day.
Beaver
Posted 2/24/2009 9:50 PM (#362565 - in reply to #362559)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 4266


nothing will ever replace the single french blade bucktail in my boat. depending on the size of the blade, it it easy to cover different depth ranges at fast speeds with those lures. i love running the single french blades down 6 or 8 feet along a deep weed edge. i build all of my own, so i can weight them to stay down that deep while reeling as fast as i want.
the single blade bucktail will never disappear, just like spinnerbaits won't, even though they seem to have disappeared after being hotter than a comet for a couple of seasons.
muskie lure trends are worse than the red carpet fashions.

Edited by Beaver 2/24/2009 9:51 PM
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 2/24/2009 10:06 PM (#362567 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 1316


Location: Lebanon,Mo
Ha...Ha....The Double Bladed Bucktails havent even started in some places in the South.I still have fellow Musky fisherman ask me what that bright colored bait is on the end of my line down here,and that is coming from someone that has won the annual Pomme de Terre Tournament twice.The single bladed bucktail caught alot of fish last year on one lake over anything else.
BNelson
Posted 2/24/2009 10:25 PM (#362572 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Location: Contrarian Island
not a chance...there are many days that fish won't eat or move on d10s but will eat smaller bucktails...I personally have had very little luck with the double 8s but have caught plenty on d10s...
just like any category of bait, let the fish tell you what they want that day/hour/minute..it constantly changes...if you only throw d10s it will cost you fish....lots of em...
Muskiecut
Posted 2/24/2009 11:09 PM (#362581 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 135


Location: Irvine, KY
Ive had a lot of luck on the double 8s with the smaller skirt on sunny days (lots of flash with more speed than the D10) and/or stained water (for vibration)... but I like singles on cloudy days and/or clear water. I dont think doubles will ever completely replace the single bladed bucktails for me either.
J Routt
Posted 2/25/2009 6:26 AM (#362607 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Location: Right Here
It is a definite phenomenon. I know I’m not a huge manufacturer, but in my sample size I would easily say that 95 out of every 100 tails I sell are double blades. (If not more.) I'd also say that 75 out of every hundred are tens too. I personally like throwing single bladed tens a lot. They are a little easier to retrieve, but also have a different vibration. They still have the same big profile, just a little different. I will have to agree with an earlier post that I seem to “move” more fish with them, but trigger more with the doubles.
Snurgoil
Posted 2/25/2009 10:32 AM (#362645 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 9


Location: Oklahoma
As a pike fisherman, I have done very well on traditional Mepps bucktails with single blades. I'm curious to know if anyone has success with catching spring pike on double bladed bucktails?
KARLOUTDOORS
Posted 2/25/2009 12:48 PM (#362670 - in reply to #362531)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 956


Location: Home of the 2016 World Series Champion Cubs
Will Schultz - 2/24/2009 8:21 PM

sorenson - 2/24/2009 9:11 PM  African or European swallow?

I don't know that...

I still owe you a shrubbery.



Whats your favorite color?


Mauser
Posted 2/25/2009 4:22 PM (#362713 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 724


Location: Southern W.Va.
I have a few double 10s but throw them very little. When it comes to double bladed bucktails I generally throw double-8s, mostly baits that I put together myself. With that being said I still catch as many on #5 French bladed baits as I ever did. There is a time and a place for all baits , it's just what you have confidence in throwing and I've seen very little success in the #10 bladed baits.
I know they catch fish but for some reason they don't catch fish when I'm around. I've fished with people who were throwing big monster bladed baits and still catch fish when they go fishless with the big blades. My size may not be as large as the fish caught on DCG but my overall success has been better with smaller bladed baits.

Mauser
Slow Rollin
Posted 2/25/2009 4:28 PM (#362715 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 619


i would say pretty much done.... for 1, most (not all) when buying a new bucktail wouldnt even look at the single blades.... so alot less will be purchased and good luck selling your used single blades, no one is buying them...i started selling most of my singles a yr ago and still cant get rid of em.....anyone want a buy a few send me a PM?
BenMuskyHunter247
Posted 2/25/2009 6:34 PM (#362748 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 86


Location: Wauwatosa, Wisconsin
i love number 8s and 5s....you can really burn those with out getting to tired.
triton1
Posted 2/25/2009 7:22 PM (#362770 - in reply to #362715)
Subject: RE: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?





Posts: 126


Slow Rollin - 2/25/2009 4:28 PM

i would say pretty much done.... for 1, most (not all) when buying a new bucktail wouldnt even look at the single blades.... so alot less will be purchased and good luck selling your used single blades, no one is buying them...i started selling most of my singles a yr ago and still cant get rid of em.....anyone want a buy a few send me a PM?


Hope you're right. The rest of you guys keep throwing big blades, the fish don't like singles anymore, won't hit em. They only hit double number 10-20 blades.
Can you sense the sarcasm here??
Sackett
Posted 2/25/2009 7:23 PM (#362771 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 100


Location: Bemidji/Cass Lake
If fish are hot, throw what they can find the easiest. D10's are the style of in-line spinner that standout the best. I guess it depends on what size of fish you have in the water you are on, throw 8's if you aren't dealing with anything over low 40s. I still throw harrassars and lillytails early in the year, or when things aren't really turned on but still want a spinner on.
2big4boat
Posted 2/25/2009 9:17 PM (#362795 - in reply to #362465)
Subject: Re: Is the Era of the Single Bladed Bucktail Over?




Posts: 16


The single blaed Bucktail era will never come to an end.
THey can do things that Doubles cant do and Doubles can do things that singles cant do.
I still put more fish in the boat with singles.
Not sure but to me it seems like on some bodies of water single almost always out fish doubles.......and vis versa
Just my2cents
Tom Boley
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