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wers4455 |
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Posts: 415 Location: madison wisconsin | Just saw the show when he was fishing muskies that I had on DVR. Not a bad show. Caught some decent ones and one almost 50" pig. Caught it in pea soup! Larry seems pretty amuzing- "in about 8 hours this place will be crawling with humans" or "there's humans everywhere!" he'll tell the camera! Even though he doesnt hunt ski's alot, I might have to tune in more often to get a laugh! | ||
Muskie Treats |
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Posts: 2384 Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Larry fishes muskies a ton, just not on camera. | ||
wers4455 |
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Posts: 415 Location: madison wisconsin | I knew that he fished for them alot, I just meant on camera | ||
Willis |
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Posts: 227 Location: New Brighton, MN | I just watched that episode too. I found it amusing how he refused to use a net, and just neck grabbed 4+ foot long fish. super classic. Sweet sturgeon snag too! Where do you think he was on the St. Croix? I wonder what that "secret" pea soup lake was.... | ||
wers4455 |
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Posts: 415 Location: madison wisconsin | My guess it was somewhere around the cities in MN. Edited by wers4455 2/2/2009 11:24 AM | ||
HBmusky |
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Posts: 36 Location: Pittsburgh PA | good show classic blair witch project filming . It is nice to see that once in awhile with limited cuts and editing . I watch also linders show on muskies,that was on this weekend ,it was a good one It pumped me up . I put out some amazing close up footage of muskies taking top raiders in 2 shows I did with fox it was good footage,one was 44 inches or so and the other was a big 48 incher. you can probly still check it out on the internet. If your like me I try to watch every thing I can because it is just amazing some of the footage that is taken and I can not get enough. Herb Bloxsom | ||
esoxfly |
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Posts: 1663 Location: Kodiak, AK | wers4455 - 2/2/2009 12:23 PM My guess it was somewhere around the cities in MN. Yeah, I thought he said it was in a "metro" area or something like that....I just assumed it was a Cities lake. | ||
JimtenHaaf |
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Posts: 717 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | Willis - 2/2/2009 10:37 AM I just watched that episode too. I found it amusing how he refused to use a net, and just neck grabbed 4+ foot long fish. super classic. :-O I personally don't find grabbing a long fish like that amusing. The only way to do it is to tire the fish out more. Why play the fish out to exhaustion? That's why we have the big nets that we do. Net them as quickly as possible, unhook them as quickly as possible, have them back swimming in the water as quickly as possible. | ||
0723 |
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Posts: 5193 | That show was awesome someone pm me where they were fishing if you know. | ||
T_Musky |
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Posts: 25 | Great show! I thought it was pretty cool how they through a dart to a map and said they are going to fish wherever it landed....and catch muskies there! | ||
esoxfly |
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Posts: 1663 Location: Kodiak, AK | JimtenHaaf - 2/2/2009 5:36 PM I personally don't find grabbing a long fish like that amusing. The only way to do it is to tire the fish out more. Why play the fish out to exhaustion? That's why we have the big nets that we do. Net them as quickly as possible, unhook them as quickly as possible, have them back swimming in the water as quickly as possible. I don't wanna start bashing one of the most well-known and respected fishermen out there, but sometimes his fish handling kinda catches me off guard. He was pike fishing in Canada on last week's show, and his daughter was with him, and all the small pike they caught were unceremoneously tossed back in the water, while the bigger fish received a proper release. It's not bad, and I still like to watch his show, but I think it sends the wrong message, "small fish don't matter, big fish need respect." I go through the full revival of even the hammer handles I catch. A 42" pike was a hammer handle at one time... And I do still like Larry Dahlberg. Just and observation.... | ||
rumbler |
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Posts: 164 Location: Bloomington,MN | i thought that was a great show.Im pretty sure i new where he was when he went to the 2nd lake after the river. | ||
esoxlucifer |
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Posts: 305 | I too am a big dahlberg fan from way back. interesting debate on release techniques...i don't have the answers, but wondering if anyone has any data on morbidity and mortality with the different methods. ? removing slime/eye damage/fin damage in a net versus excess lactic acid in playing the fish longer for larrys hand landing? whatever will protect the resource, i'm all for it. | ||
kreegz |
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Posts: 162 Location: East Troy, WI | i turned it on right as he was reeling in the sturgeon. crazy how he snagged it. | ||
JimtenHaaf |
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Posts: 717 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | esoxlucifer - 2/2/2009 10:59 PM I too am a big dahlberg fan from way back. interesting debate on release techniques...i don't have the answers, but wondering if anyone has any data on morbidity and mortality with the different methods. ? removing slime/eye damage/fin damage in a net versus excess lactic acid in playing the fish longer for larrys hand landing? whatever will protect the resource, i'm all for it. That's an excelent point. I too would love to see this if anyone knows where it's available. | ||
esox50 |
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Posts: 2024 | JimtenHaaf - 2/3/2009 3:28 PM esoxlucifer - 2/2/2009 10:59 PM I too am a big dahlberg fan from way back. interesting debate on release techniques...i don't have the answers, but wondering if anyone has any data on morbidity and mortality with the different methods. ? removing slime/eye damage/fin damage in a net versus excess lactic acid in playing the fish longer for larrys hand landing? whatever will protect the resource, i'm all for it. That's an excelent point. I too would love to see this if anyone knows where it's available. This type of comparative study hasn't been done on muskies. There has been some work done on netting, dermal injury, and mortality in bluegill (which are used as a model species) which could potentially be extrapolated to other species. The authors suggest further research should be done on larger species. Lactic acid build-up can have SEVERE consequences on a fish's ability to recover from exhaustive exercise, and when coupled with excessive air exposure the problem is merely exacerbated. With today's knotless, fish friendly nets damage done to the fish is reduced vs. old non-coated, knotted bags. If you have a good pair of hook cutters on board, there is (in my opinion) no need to hand-land a fish, especially if you intend to take it out of the water for pictures. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6T6N-484V... Great show though. Loved the "amateur" type footage when they switched to that Metro lake. Larry's foot caught in that bait was classic, too! Edited by esox50 2/3/2009 4:03 PM | ||
esoxlucifer |
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Posts: 305 | That clarifies this for me, sean. I knew one of our fisheries professionals would shed some light on this. I chose medicine instead of fisheries...but am glad you seem so dedicated to it and esox in particular. We all owe you and your colleages a debt-thankyou! | ||
esox50 |
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Posts: 2024 | esoxlucifer - 2/3/2009 6:11 PM That clarifies this for me, sean. I knew one of our fisheries professionals would shed some light on this. I chose medicine instead of fisheries...but am glad you seem so dedicated to it and esox in particular. We all owe you and your colleages a debt-thankyou! I'm no "fisheries professional" (yet?). Just happen to fish muskies and read a bunch of science articles. 2009 and 2010 will see a catch-and-release muskie study done in Ontario. You can email me if you'd like a few more specifics. | ||
djwilliams |
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Posts: 781 Location: Ames, Iowa | That was the interstate bridge behind him in a couple scenes wasn't it. I wonder if they fished alot below that point. Anyone here familiar with the muskie fishing on the St Croix? Afton area, Hastings, Hudson, up north toward interstate Park- can anyone share about this fishery? djwilliams | ||
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djwilliams - 2/3/2009 10:10 PM That was the interstate bridge behind him in a couple scenes wasn't it. I wonder if they fished alot below that point. Anyone here familiar with the muskie fishing on the St Croix? Afton area, Hastings, Hudson, up north toward interstate Park- can anyone share about this fishery? djwilliams Anyone fishing the PMTT in september sure would love that! | |||
djwilliams |
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Posts: 781 Location: Ames, Iowa | Probly belongs in fishing repts, but since it's the subject here... is the St Croix worth the trip from central Iowa? Or is further down the list of places you'd rather fish. Been around here a long time so understand I don't expect specifics. Thanks. | ||
Moltisanti |
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Posts: 639 Location: Hudson, WI | Don, I live in Hudson and fish the Croix all the time. Honestly, if you were going to make a trip up to WI or MN, I wouldn't bank on the Croix. It's not exactly a northwoods vacation spot. More recreational traffic then you would think possible. Nothing like 6 cabin cruisers anchored together on your favorite spot getting drunk. The fishery itself is good. Nice size structure with most of the fish being 41-45 and a decent shot at a really good one. The community spots get TONS of pressure but there are some obscure spots that hold fish too. It's tough to learn, but worth it if you have a lot of time...and live less than 5 minutes away. | ||
castmaster |
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Posts: 910 Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | "The only way to do it is to tire the fish out more. Why play the fish out to exhaustion? " Didn't Larry get in some trouble several years ago for that very thing? He was playing fish for EXTENDED lengths of time so they could get better footage of the fight. Seem to remember something along those lines. | ||
bturg |
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Posts: 716 | "trouble" with who ???????????????????????????????????? his wife, the internet police, Bill Dance ??? | ||
castmaster |
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Posts: 910 Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | It was a states DNR, just can't remember which state it was. He was cited for something in regards to playing fish for an extended time just to get various camera angles and shots. Also can't remember if it involved shooting photos and video of fish that weren't in season and then "releasing" them or whether the particular state had a law on the books regarding "timely" release or what it was, just remember it created a small bit of controversy. Edited by castmaster 2/5/2009 12:10 PM | ||
castmaster |
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Posts: 910 Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | Found it...He was cited in British Columbia for playing a Steelhead for an extended period of time in order to get photos and video, and it was done on a Catch & Release only river. | ||
castmaster |
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Posts: 910 Location: Hastings, mn, 55033 | After posting I got to thinking I may come off as bashing Mr Dahlberg, and that's not the case. Just saw the comment on playing fish for a long time and thought I'd mention it had kind of bit him in the butt a little. I'm sure he's a great guy and DEFINITELY a great multi species angler. | ||
JimtenHaaf |
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Posts: 717 Location: Grand Rapids, MI | castmaster - 2/5/2009 3:50 PM I'm sure he's a great guy and DEFINITELY a great multi species angler. I'm sure he is too, but when you have a television show, you have great responsibilities. | ||
Northwind Mark |
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Posts: 566 Location: Elgin, IL | internet police, Bill Dance. good one......... Edited by Northwind Mark 2/6/2009 3:52 PM | ||
Obfuscate Musky |
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Posts: 654 Location: MPLS, MN | Best show on TV. Muskie show was great. Also, Larry is one of the guys who really pushed Circle Hooks all across the world, pretty sure we don't have to question his ethics. | ||
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