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Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/19/2008 9:27 PM (#350584)
Subject: 57's how many




Posts: 929


Location: Rhinelander.
How many 57 inchers do we know of that have been caught?I'll let you you know wh I ask this after I I make a visit to one of my customers homes. Just wondering how many truely confirmed 57's have been caught.

Pfeiff
Beaver
Posted 12/19/2008 9:40 PM (#350585 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many





Posts: 4266


Never mind.
Am I the only one that doesn't know or even have a clue

Edited by Beaver 12/19/2008 9:42 PM
Tackle Industries
Posted 12/19/2008 10:41 PM (#350595 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I know two guys personally that have one each (both in MN lakes). I also have a customer/guide up on Georgian Bay that has a few 57" under his belt. To bad they were not with one of my lures! lol He has also told me he has seen some near or over 60". I have a hard enough time telling if they are 30" or 40" in the water
sworrall
Posted 12/19/2008 11:03 PM (#350598 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 32835


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
A few, I'd wager. But darned few like Mr. MacNair's.
woodieb8
Posted 12/20/2008 6:09 AM (#350608 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




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a very rare occurence. even in canada.
bobbie
Posted 12/20/2008 6:17 AM (#350609 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many




Posts: 559


I know of a 56.5"for sure and have seen a hand full over that.
BenR
Posted 12/20/2008 6:34 AM (#350610 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many


I would say in some places it is probably bi-weekly.....
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/20/2008 6:52 AM (#350612 - in reply to #350609)
Subject: RE: 57's how many




Posts: 929


Location: Rhinelander.
I am with you and really do not have a clue. I think its a pretty rare fish.. Thats why I was surprised when a customer told me he has one on the wall. Said he caught it 1988 on planting ground lake on the 3 lakes chain. He remembers it very clearly inspite of his age. Caught it on a mudpuppy. I am going to stop at his houe and get a photo of him with it. It amazes me that even in 88 one could catch a fish like that and you'd not hear about it.. When I get the pictures I'll post it. I think we all like seeing 57's

Pfeiff

Big fish only
Posted 12/20/2008 7:01 AM (#350613 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




Posts: 86


Location: University of Hartford
I am not sure about that, I know that in some lakes there is a "good" chance of seeing one like for instance Lac seul, Georgian Bay, the St. Lawrence and LOTW and Eagle, and Minnesota. I have seen one that I know was larger than 56. because it so much larger than my PB. But until they are caught and accurately measured they are just memories and stories,
PIKEMASTER
Posted 12/20/2008 8:14 AM (#350618 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Jamie from Custom Fish has said he has seen SILENT GIANTS every year doing life size prints of fish, that NEVER make it to the Forums.

Edited by PIKEMASTER 12/20/2008 8:21 AM
esox50
Posted 12/20/2008 8:16 AM (#350619 - in reply to #350610)
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BenR - 12/20/2008 6:34 AM

I would say in some places it is probably bi-weekly.....


Agreed. And you'll never hear about them...
Guest
Posted 12/20/2008 8:22 AM (#350621 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many


Are you talking "real" 57's", measured on a bump board for an accurate measurement, or the number of 57's that were measured with a loose tape, my making marks in the boat and measuring it later, etc..?

PIKEMASTER
Posted 12/20/2008 9:06 AM (#350631 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many





Location: Latitude 41.3016 Longitude 88.6160
Thank you guest, because of people like you, is Y they are called SILENT GIANTS.
firstsixfeet
Posted 12/20/2008 9:09 AM (#350633 - in reply to #350621)
Subject: RE: 57's how many




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Guest - 12/20/2008 8:22 AM

Are you talking "real" 57's", measured on a bump board for an accurate measurement, or the number of 57's that were measured with a loose tape, my making marks in the boat and measuring it later, etc..?



Oh yes that marking thing! I think I have caught a couple of those! I am pretty sure my marks are accurate, of course my memory might have faded as to which fish went with which set of marks and where I started measuring from, but the other day I looked at a couple scratches in my boat and BY DAWG, they were 57.5" apart. Heckuva fish.

Seriously, why not ask some of these guides that are on the water day after day how frequently they have encountered that size fish. I'm thinking Doug Johnson could give a lot of fisherman some insight into how rare a 57" fish might be, even in the top quality waters available.
Tackle Industries
Posted 12/20/2008 9:12 AM (#350634 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





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Location: Land of the Musky
The three guys I know of have never posted on any chat boards. Pictures of all three fish have made it to various chat boards thoguh. They just seem to enjoy fishing and catching musky and pike. I know two of them will never bother posting pictures of their fish on boards to share becasue of comments like teh "Guest". Again, they are just happy to be alive and fish for musky and pike.

You gotta watch out for those silent guys
ESOXER
Posted 12/20/2008 9:14 AM (#350635 - in reply to #350610)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




Posts: 232


Location: Sun Prairie, WI
All fishermen are liars, except you and me, and some times I wonder about you!
MuskyHopeful
Posted 12/20/2008 10:48 AM (#350645 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
Hundreds. Or less. Depends on the manner in which they are caught. Remember, there is true and adjusted claimable length. Apply your percentages people. Lets keep things consistent.

Kevin

Shoveling muscles like steel bands.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 12/20/2008 12:21 PM (#350656 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
People would not believe it if they knew how many fish are caught and released that big and bigger every year. There was a 60 plus incher caught and released weeks after I caught my 57. That fish was not on the internet either. Yes they are caught and not ever talked about. I never posted a picture of mine or told the story on line for over five years out of respect for the "Boys" out East.

The people who catch them know what they caught, the internet only hurts them and the guides who take them. The guides and fishermen who target these monsters do not need the hype. Word of mouth is how great guides keep their dance cards full.

Anyone who is looking for that special fish should look into getting on thses "special waters" that were listed before in a post. We all know the trophy waters that hold monster fish. Now you got to get there at the rite time and put your time in. It's not easy most of the time and it's not a numbers game. Your fishing for one fish a day sometimes.

Trophy hunters are a different breed as are the guides who consistantly put huge fish in their boat. Getting to fish with these people is a privilege. Getting a time slot at trophy time is almost impossible. Most are booked from years ago and those clients will not give it up. You just have to get lucky and work your way into prime time on prime waters.

muskynate
Posted 12/20/2008 12:30 PM (#350657 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 74


Location: thunder bay
i've personaly seen 10 fish of that size or bigger in the last three years and boated one of them. i'm sure there's many of them noone hears about.

Edited by muskynate 12/20/2008 12:32 PM
deafmuskyhunter
Posted 12/20/2008 1:38 PM (#350665 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




Posts: 172


57" is really big fish.. i wld love to see more pictures of them but too bad some people r moron and or jealous of them.. in my books any fish over 55" are the great catch of their lifetime.. if that 57" smashed my bait during figure 8 i wld shat my pant n have a heart attack at young age!
JimtenHaaf
Posted 12/20/2008 3:16 PM (#350674 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Well, let's put it this way... There's only 3 57's, 1 58.25, 1 58.5, and 1 60 in the Muskies Inc. records from 2002-present.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/20/2008 5:37 PM (#350680 - in reply to #350674)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




Posts: 929


Location: Rhinelander.
Ty for that info jim. I am talking about a fish from 1988. They did not use bump boards back them. I do not know how it was measured. I just know he told me it was 57 and he got it mounted. Now I don't care if it was this year or 1988 its still a big fish and he has it to prove it. We'll see when I get to his house. I brought up the question because because I just feel its a rare fish, very rare to catch one that size. For all these 57's seen!!!!!!!!!!!! Untill they are in the boat and measured it means nothing. Follows don't count for beans.

Pfeiff
mota
Posted 12/20/2008 6:05 PM (#350682 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many


torpe have caught a 57 and a 58,whit something like 10 cast
Peaches
Posted 12/20/2008 6:20 PM (#350684 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many




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There are at least 3 57+ fish in Muskiefirsts big fish pics from 2008 alone. They aren't common, but are more common than one may think.
Guest
Posted 12/20/2008 6:43 PM (#350688 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: RE: 57's how many


Again, legit 57's on a bump board, or with a tape or other unaccurate measuring device?

57 incher measured like Bob M and a legit 57 on a bump board is completely different. Measuring one with a sewing tape at 57 is completely different that a 57 on a bump board.

There is only one way to get a real, true, legit measurement.
JimtenHaaf
Posted 12/20/2008 8:29 PM (#350695 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 717


Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Pfieff-- I'd love to know what you find out. Are you actually bringing a bumpboard there to lay the mount on? It would be interesting to do that, then put a flexible sewing tape on it. I know since it's stiff it would probably read a little less on a bumpboard, but still would be interesting to see.
cjrich
Posted 12/20/2008 9:04 PM (#350697 - in reply to #350695)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 551


Location: Columbus, Georgia
If I caught a 57" (or larger) Musky, I surely would not want to keep that a secret.
Don Pfeiffer
Posted 12/20/2008 10:58 PM (#350703 - in reply to #350695)
Subject: Re: 57's how many




Posts: 929


Location: Rhinelander.
I think that I can get a good measurement with a metal rule. So no I won't take a bumpboard as you asked. The fish will have a bend in it I'm sure so a bumpboard be useless. I'll do the best I can and thats all I can do.

Pfeiff

Edited by Don Pfeiffer 12/20/2008 11:02 PM
Pointerpride102
Posted 12/20/2008 11:17 PM (#350706 - in reply to #350703)
Subject: Re: 57's how many





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Does the amount of 57 inch fish caught change: how you fish, where you fish, what you throw, how you attack a lake, how you enjoy your fishing experience etc?

I didnt think so.
BenR
Posted 12/21/2008 1:41 PM (#350735 - in reply to #350584)
Subject: Re: 57's how many


Lots of people limit others ability based on their own success..some pretty small worlds some folks live in....
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