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Jesse
Posted 12/3/2008 3:10 PM (#347853)
Subject: musky boats?


What is the all purpose musky boat? For fishing lakes ML and Vermilion and for fishing small lakes in northern Wisconsin. Need some help. Basicly a tournament boat , but not a huge ranger.
bn
Posted 12/3/2008 3:20 PM (#347854 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


keep an eye out for a nice 98-00 Ranger 690...great all purpose boat for small to big waters...love the one I have...
jesse
Posted 12/3/2008 3:29 PM (#347856 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


do you have a pic?
BNelson
Posted 12/3/2008 3:35 PM (#347860 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?





Location: Contrarian Island
here is a pic or 2. they made a 692 which was a dual console I know a couple guys on this site have them too. maybe they can chime in....690/692 are 18'9" x 90", max hp at 175, I had a merc on it...til it went clatter clatter thunder rattle boom boom boom and now the Suzi sits on the back, typically hit 52-53 with 2 guys, the merc was a touch faster...not all that heavy to haul around, dry storage stays dry, and they typically sell FAST when they pop onto the used boats websites...for a reason...look at how long some other brands sit on the used websites and how many times the owners have to keep lowering their price...690/692 owners get what they want for the most part ...if you see a good one I wouldn't sit around waiting on it...go look at it..haven't seen a good one in a month or 2 but they will pop up before spring...watch the motor..that is the biggest possible expense /headache in buying a used boat that is 8-10 yrs old...they typically sell in the 16-20k range depending on year, condition etc etc..though there was one that I saw sell for WAY under what the guy could have sold it for...so there are deals....bn

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muskihntr
Posted 12/3/2008 3:43 PM (#347861 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
awww mannnnn, ya knowtrolling fish dont count!
bn
Posted 12/3/2008 3:45 PM (#347862 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


those rod holders are for the sucker rods!!!!
you won't catch me trolling too often that's for sure.... ; )
esoxaddict
Posted 12/3/2008 4:33 PM (#347875 - in reply to #347862)
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Posts: 8781


You need some ranger decals for that Tahoe
jonnysled
Posted 12/3/2008 5:54 PM (#347898 - in reply to #347853)
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Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
cantcha shine the tires up a little for more impact?!
Top H2O
Posted 12/3/2008 6:46 PM (#347909 - in reply to #347898)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Posts: 4080


Location: Elko - Lake Vermilion
MMMMMM.......Purrrtty
Pointerpride102
Posted 12/3/2008 7:01 PM (#347914 - in reply to #347853)
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Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
With this you'll be the talk of the tournament!


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esoxfly
Posted 12/3/2008 10:12 PM (#347951 - in reply to #347853)
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Posts: 1663


Location: Kodiak, AK
That boat and Tahoe do look dang nice!

I woulda said a Ranger 200C is the best all round muskie boat out there, but the "not a huge Ranger" caveat kinda excludes that. Heck, it being too big for fishing N. WI lakes is why sled sold it to me.

Lemme tell ya Jon, I couldn't love a human baby as much as I love that boat.
CaptainJolly
Posted 12/4/2008 11:16 AM (#348025 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?





Posts: 89


How about a Tuffy 2060? Love mine, use it for musky fishing on Green Bay, not just trolling either. Huge front casting deck, can buy additional rear deck/storage compartment from Tuffy.


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Jackpot bay
Posted 12/4/2008 11:30 AM (#348028 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


Original post asked about boats that aren't huge. 2060 probably in the huge category imo
CaptainJolly
Posted 12/4/2008 12:34 PM (#348042 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?





Posts: 89


Yeah, it's kinda on the big side, but I've still fished plenty of small waters with it. For big waters like mille lacs and vermillion you can't have too big of a boat.
TJ DeVoe
Posted 12/4/2008 12:54 PM (#348045 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?




Posts: 2323


Location: Stevens Point, WI
Here is a boat you might want to take a look at. Yeah, it's 19 feet long, but the new Tuffy X-190 that was introduced earlier this year. This hull drafts considerable less amount of water, but yet makes for a great all purpose boat. In my opinion, one of the best musky rigs I've fished out of for the ability to fish all size of waters such as Vermillion, LOTW, or Mille Lacs, maybe even an occasional trip or two on Green Bay. This boat carries a horsepower rating of a 200 and the ability to put a kicker on is also available. Boat runs great with a 150 Opti, 175 or the 200. The 150 Opti will touch 55 with one person and a full load, two people and a full load it touches 52-53. The Opti 175 and 200 will scoot this rig along at over 60+mph easily. The boat will also fit in a standard 24 foot garage with the swing away tongue.

You can check this rig out on the Tuffy website:
http://www.tuffyboats.com/boats/x190

Here is the X-190 with a 150 Opti, kicker and a full load.
http://upload.outdoorsfirst.com/watch.asp?id=1102

Lambeau walks through the features of the X-190 in this clip:
http://upload.outdoorsfirst.com/watch.asp?id=1140


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guest
Posted 12/4/2008 1:27 PM (#348050 - in reply to #348028)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


Jackpot bay - 12/4/2008 11:30 AM

Original post asked about boats that aren't huge. 2060 probably in the huge category imo


Well, isn't the Ranger 690 about the same size as that Tuffy 2060? A 19 footer with a tandem axle isn't the smallest of rigs. I can just see that boat as a total joy to dump in a 200 acre puddle.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 12/4/2008 1:32 PM (#348052 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?





Posts: 1453


Location: Kronenwetter, WI
You might rethink the idea of going smaller in order to get into smaller N. WI lakes at the landings. I run a 619 which is, I believe, the smallest of Rangers' 'big boats'. I think people would be VERY SURPRISED to learn what little lakes and rural landings I can launch into. Honestly, the only lakes I've not tried to put in on are some super-small no motor bass lakes that don't have ski's anyhow.

Think about what is worse, being on big water being bobbed around like a cork, or learning how to manuver a bigger rig into a smaller landing. I money is on comfort on big water. On V this summer I was on Big Bay and it was ROCKIN'...believe me, there were no 'smaller' boats out there with me.

Hosestly, you would be very surprised at what small lakes I can fish.
Guest
Posted 12/4/2008 1:36 PM (#348053 - in reply to #348052)
Subject: Re: musky boats?


Cowboyhannah - 12/4/2008 1:32 PM

You might rethink the idea of going smaller in order to get into smaller N. WI lakes at the landings. I run a 619 which is, I believe, the smallest of Rangers' 'big boats'. I think people would be VERY SURPRISED to learn what little lakes and rural landings I can launch into. Honestly, the only lakes I've not tried to put in on are some super-small no motor bass lakes that don't have ski's anyhow.

Think about what is worse, being on big water being bobbed around like a cork, or learning how to manuver a bigger rig into a smaller landing. I money is on comfort on big water. On V this summer I was on Big Bay and it was ROCKIN'...believe me, there were no 'smaller' boats out there with me.

Hosestly, you would be very surprised at what small lakes I can fish.


Can a boat like that be dumped into smaller waters? Absolutely, BUT, his question or part of his requirements in looking for a boat was stated, basically a tournament boat, but not a huge Ranger. A 690 is a huge Ranger, it's on a tandem axle for cryin out loud, which most are, that's a big boat, so is a 619. That's exactly what he's NOT looking for. Most wouldn't want a boat like a 690 and a 619 on a single axle.
ESfishOX
Posted 12/4/2008 1:46 PM (#348055 - in reply to #347853)
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Posts: 412


Location: Waukesha, WI
Cowboyhannah, curious, do you have the shallow launch option on your trailer?
Slamr
Posted 12/4/2008 2:02 PM (#348060 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?





Posts: 7038


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Some great suggestions above! Not a boat that's been recommended that won't to one degree or another satisfy what you're looking for. BUT, being in love with my boat as I am, I thought I'd chime in with some feelings of my own.

Tuffy 1760 GC, single console, 150 Opti + 9.9 kicker. Single axel trailer, easily pulled with my V-8 4Runner. With this rig/truck I can put in at the easiest to use corp of engineers launches on Lake Michigan to all but the crappiest wilderness launches you'll find in N.WI. The engine pushes her at up to 51.5mph with a stainless steel prop (one guy, 1/4 tank of gas) and cruises well at 35mph. I have a 75lb wireless Motor Guide (24v system) that gets a full day and a half of battery under normal conditions (big wind you can get a day without noticeable drop). The kicker runs like a champ and will go all day without a burp in running, sips gas with the ONLY draw back being that it takes a bit of finesse to get started.

For fishability I seriously am yet to find something in the same (new) price range that is this size yet fishes this big and this well. I can fish 3 big guys comfortably (space to cast, very little if any listing even with all three on the same side standing) either trolling or casting. I've casted very safely in up to 2-3'ers on Eagle Lake and trolled safely in 4-5'ers on Lake Michigan while chasing salmons. I've been caught out in 5-7' waves on Lake Michigan and though fishing wasn't too comfortable, getting in to the harbor was never in doubt. I'll admit I haven't fished Mille Lacs in 4-6's while casting, and I wouldnt recommend it in this boat, but there aren't many boats (though I am sure they exist) that I know of that are under 20' or more that are too safe in those conditions.

For casting the lack of a gunnel cap puts you right next to the water, while not being over-elevated and away from the surface. Meaning with a longer rod, you don't need to bend over too much in a figure-8. Releases are easily done from any point on the boat. The back deck extension makes it such that the guy in the back has more than enough room to walk around.

There are 12 rod tubes, 2 of which will hold an 8'6", the other ten will take up to 8' rods. I carry up to 6 plano boxes, 2 sets of rain gear, two tool bags, 3 life preservers and all necessary safety gear, a paddle, a mini-lakewood and some miscellaneous gearish stuff....all stowed while I cast.

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nwild
Posted 12/4/2008 2:02 PM (#348061 - in reply to #348055)
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Posts: 1996


Location: Pelican Lake/Three Lakes Chain
It is amazing the water you can put these "big" boats into. I fish out of a Tuffy 1890 and it affords me the comfort on the bigger waters which is a must for me. It also allows me to launch on nearly any lake I desire. The last lake my boat was on this season is a small (120 acre) lake with an unimproved boat landing. It looks like it was made for launching a duck pram, not an 1890, yet launch the 1890 I did.

Most every lake is accessible with the 1890, if you can't get that in there, you probably have to carry a boat into it.


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gus_webb
Posted 12/4/2008 2:12 PM (#348064 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?





Posts: 225


Location: Nordeast Minneapolis
Ahhh... the age-old dilemma. I should probably change my login name to 'Phantom Pimp' or something of that ilk, but if you're not familiar, it might be worth a look. Alumacraft Phantom- About 17'-7", hull V somewhere between a bass and a walleye boat, can take a good range of engine sizes and a decent amount of storage. The only water I've seen that I'd really think twice about going out on with it is Lake Michigan on a rolly day... otherwise it does pretty well. It's equally been at home on a 100 acre lake. If you're not into the whole dual-platform thing, I think the Alumacraft Navigator is roughly the same hull with more of a 'Lund Pro-V' configuration. Which, actually, would also be a nice boat... especially if you're going to be fishing with more than 2.
The huge fiberglas boats with dually trailers are beautiful... don't get me wrong. I love 'em, I love fishing out of 'em. But they were just too much boat for me- both in size and price.

But that's just my opinion, and I could be wrong.
bn
Posted 12/4/2008 2:16 PM (#348065 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


Jesse states he will be on ML with his boat, though I do think Aluminum boats in the 17-18 foot range are not huge, and can be fished on lakes like ML, you will bobbed around and the ride of glass vs aluminum on a lake like that in the same size boat is nite and day imo...
a 690 range is huge? It is smaller than any of their current deep v models, a 2060 Tuffy is 2 feet longer and probably a foot wider though I don't know the exact specs, 620/621 Rangers would be considered huge to me, heck my 690 can fit inside a 620...I can put mine into just about any landing anyone else can, like Hannah said, you'd be surprised what they can be put in.
If you want a boat that can fish both BIG and small waters great imo something around 18-19 feet and Glass will be the best option depending on your budget constraints...
good luck boat shopping..
JRedig
Posted 12/4/2008 2:30 PM (#348071 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Location: Twin Cities
I've been doing the same shopping as you Jesse, i've decided on the Tuffy's similar to what Slamr has, hopefully by next season i'll have one. I'd really like something bigger, but it won't be in the cards. Now to come up with that pesky money! :-D

Oh how an X-190 would be so sweet, someday.

Edited by JRedig 12/4/2008 2:32 PM
Guest
Posted 12/4/2008 3:09 PM (#348076 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


Ranger 681 or 618 should suit you perfectly.
lambeau
Posted 12/4/2008 3:35 PM (#348079 - in reply to #348065)
Subject: RE: musky boats?


Jesse states he will be on ML with his boat

that's the rub, isn't it? finding a boat that will handle big waters but is still useful for pond-hopping.
like many people, i do some of both. my perspective is that a person should get the boat that will meet their needs 90% of the time. if you're mostly on small northern WI type lakes with only a couple days a year under mid-summer conditions on the bigger waters, go with the smaller ride. if you're mostly fishing larger lakes, get the bigger boat and deal with the occasional shallow landing. in other words, get what is most useful to you most of the time.

a 690 range is huge? It is smaller than any of their current deep v models, a 2060 Tuffy is 2 feet longer and probably a foot wider though

no, it's not all that huge.
the 690 is probably more comparable to a current Ranger 619 or to the current Tuffy X-190 than to a Tuffy 2060 or Ranger 620. the X-190 is 19'4" with a 90" beam, the Ranger 690 is 18'9" x 90", the Ranger 619 is 19'6" x 96".
the Ranger 690 and 619s have slightly deeper hulls for rough-water rides; whereas the the Tuffy has both exceptional top speed (65mph) and lower on-plane speed (25mph) when properly paired with a maxxed-out 200hp motor.
they all have very fishable layouts, good storage, and offer a great ride. i find the Tuffy's storage options superior, especially the front-deck rod locker and the Esox model rear-deck extension. of course, that's the kind of thing that depends on taste and individual wants.
the Tuffy can be put on a single-axle or dual-axle trailer, a nice option depending on your needs (hand maneuverability vs long-distrance trailering).

If you want a boat that can fish both BIG and small waters great imo something around 18-19 feet and Glass will be the best option depending on your budget constraints...

agree 100%...it's hard to go wrong with a glass boat in that size range.

if you check out the latest edition of Bass & Walleye Boat magazine, they review 50 different boats, many of them are great options for a mid-size fishing rig.
http://www.bwbmag.com/

and some days, driving the boat is almost as fun as fishing...



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Wisconsin Wade
Posted 12/4/2008 3:36 PM (#348080 - in reply to #348076)
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Posts: 194


Location: Lincolnshire, IL
OK, I will throw in 2 cents...Ranger 1760 Angler or a Ranger 1860 Angler...ordered with a single console and you have your musky platform....if you fish larger waters a higher percentage of the time go with the 1860 angler. I fished the WI FLW League out of it last year on some windy days and had no problems(other than putting the right fish in the box) Here is a pic of the 1860 Angler...rod locker holds 8'ers and the back deck is quite large for your partner.


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pitch'n
Posted 12/5/2008 11:50 AM (#348231 - in reply to #347853)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Posts: 148


Location: Northwest Wi.
Slamr,,Ditto on the 1760GC Esox..I use mine for everything from Sunnys in Minong in the spring to Muskies on the pond in the Fall.. Just love it!
Hodag Hunter
Posted 12/5/2008 12:26 PM (#348237 - in reply to #348231)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Posts: 238


Location: Rhinelander
WI Wade,

I do like the layout of the Ranger Anglers, but what about livewell size?

Not often do I fish tourny's where it is required but it would be nice to have a larger livewell for the bad luck of a larthargic fish.
Wisconsin Wade
Posted 12/5/2008 12:37 PM (#348239 - in reply to #348237)
Subject: Re: musky boats?




Posts: 194


Location: Lincolnshire, IL
Hodag Hunter - 12/5/2008 12:26 PM

WI Wade,

I do like the layout of the Ranger Anglers, but what about livewell size?

Not often do I fish tourny's where it is required but it would be nice to have a larger livewell for the bad luck of a larthargic fish.


I would agree that the livewell is not the best for large muskies....but it is around 45" long which should work for a majority of the fish...If the top opening was larger it would better as well....WW
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