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esoxaddict
Posted 10/21/2008 4:49 PM (#341744)
Subject: why 50"?





Posts: 8828




I got a 49.5 over the summer, my personal best, and my first thought after we meaused it was "sh*t, almost 50"...

Is that stupid or what? Like 1/2 inch and a few pounds makes a difference?

So what is it about 50" that makes it a benchmark?

Why not 51" or 52", or even 49.5"?



muskie! nut
Posted 10/21/2008 4:58 PM (#341746 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
You mean a 1/2 inch and a few ounces.

What makes 50 a benchmark??? It a round number that's all it is. And you are complaining about a 1/2 inch?

Maybe muskie fishing isn't for you???
ILmuskie
Posted 10/21/2008 5:40 PM (#341754 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL
My personal best is 48"! Its 4 feet long......I want 50" so badly! Its speical number or its the high percent of fishermen think that 50" is trophy size fish! 50" or 30 lbs! For some serious trophy hunters like Larry Ramsell, Tom Gelb, Doug Johnson, etc might perfer 55" as trophy fish.
Not matter to me.....48" is cool then next goal is 50", etc!
First musky is speical, too! My first musky is 33" from Below Lake Sheivbville dam in Illinois in 1982! Its on my wall now and all the rest including 48" return to water!
Obfuscate Musky
Posted 10/21/2008 5:43 PM (#341756 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




Posts: 654


Location: MPLS, MN
My PB is also 49.5 and I'm plenty fine with that.
afdf
Posted 10/21/2008 6:50 PM (#341767 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


Hey ILMuskie,
I just caught my first muskie this year! It was only 24 in! I just started 2 years ago but im really getting into it. First ones are memorable.
Guest
Posted 10/21/2008 7:25 PM (#341776 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


Do a search of trophy musky on this site and you will get enough comentary to keep you busy for 3 to 4 hours. The consensus is that a trophy is more of a personal thing than anything else. With Minnesota lakes spewing out high numbers of 50+ inch muskies the past decade the 50 inch mark seems to be the goal of a lot of musky fisherman. For me personally I just like to catch one regardless of size.
4amuskie
Posted 10/21/2008 7:40 PM (#341781 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




50" is special. Its a benchmark for a trophy. Not saying that 49 1/2 isnt a trophy because it is. Its like going to a bar for a beer because your almost 21. You wont be recognized quite the same. Of course after you finally catch your first 50 someone will ask you the girth and of course the est weight. More trophy stuff you gotta go through. Enjoy your fish but no matter what it is or how big you will always want one just a little bit longer of fatter. Gotta love the spot. You should post a photo of your fish so we can all enjoy.
Guest
Posted 10/21/2008 7:50 PM (#341782 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


One question that came up on one of these old threads that was never answered by anyone was; Would you rather catch a 50" fish with a 19 inch girth or a 48 or 49 inch fish with a 23 inch girth or so? I would gladly take either, but would prefer the latter.
Baby Mallard
Posted 10/21/2008 7:57 PM (#341786 - in reply to #341782)
Subject: RE: why 50"?





48/49" by 23" for sure.
Gr8tmusky
Posted 10/21/2008 8:20 PM (#341790 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


It seems to me that the magic mark given to length is 50 inches and weight 30 pounds. Of course not all 50 inchers are 30 pounds and some upper 40 inchers are over 30 pounds. So would the person who sets the mark at 50 inches gets a 50 incher that weighs 25 pounds a trophy and a 49.5 inch musky that weighs 31 pounds not quite a trophy? I know there are a lot of 50 inch lovers on here. Is the skinny 50 incher in fact more so a trophy than the fat 49.5 inch fish? According to a lot of old posts, many peoples logic on hear says yes. I am just curious what others think.
4amuskie
Posted 10/21/2008 8:26 PM (#341791 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




If you have never caught a 50 then the first one no matter how fat or skinny will be soooooo special. More special than anything under. Its an achievement to break the mark. Sure a 49x25 is a trophy but it aint a 50, especially if you didnt break the 50 mark yet.
Hodag Hunter
Posted 10/21/2008 9:39 PM (#341800 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




Posts: 238


Location: Rhinelander
Last year fishing in August one of my buddies caught a 48 1/4" fish that weighed just a hair over 38 lbs. Saw the fish later that night after he couldn't get her to revive.

At the same time I was happy for him and sick that he couldn't get her to go. The fish was caught on a small lake near Rhinelander, after I gave him some tips on where to go.

Now after seeing that fish I would in a heart beat choose a 48 incher like her over a skinny 50".
jonnysled
Posted 10/21/2008 9:57 PM (#341804 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
the biggest fish is the trophy ... bigger than you did before, i remember each fish that bettered the prior best ... those are the special ones .... then maybe the biggest in a state, biggest canadian fish ... , biggest tiger, or biggest on a specific lake ... running out of goals should never be a problem ...

this year i got to be in the boat for hoop's brothers first 50 and i can say that's as fun as it gets. being there for a first fish or being there for a first 50 is a really cool deal!!! watching them and their faces when they know they have it on the line and then the relief and satisfaction of knowing it's in the bag, watching them release it and then finally watching them see the picture for the first time on the digital ... that's as good as it gets!
Esoxcrazed
Posted 10/22/2008 8:28 AM (#341848 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?


BenR - 10/21/2008 8:32 PM

It is 50 because far more 49.5's are caught than 50's:)


Although I agree what you are saying is probably true, I would love to see the numbers in a bunch of the muskies inc. logs. It wouldn't suprise me at all if their are more 50's listed than 49.5's.
musky23
Posted 10/22/2008 8:44 AM (#341850 - in reply to #341848)
Subject: Re: why 50"?


Why NOT 50"?
VMS
Posted 10/22/2008 9:08 AM (#341852 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 3507


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
Personally, I'm shooting for 49-59/64" Who needs rounded numbers?!!

Tackle Industries
Posted 10/22/2008 9:13 AM (#341854 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
I like 50lbs as a trune trophy myself How many are caught each year? 5-10, 50 pounders in the USA/Canada?
brmusky
Posted 10/22/2008 9:42 AM (#341861 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?




Posts: 335


Location: Minnesota
First of all I don't think anyone who has been at this for a long time really cares about what someone else's benchmark is. The benchmark for each person is a choice they make. I personally want to catch one bigger than my biggest fish. That is my benchmark.
To me it is kind of like deer hunting - a ten pointer was the benchmark of a trophy for me. Now that I am more educated I look at inches - 140 inches might be the new trophy, regardless if it is ONLY an 8 pointer. After I shoot a few 140 class deer, that benchmark will probably move for me.
capt morgan
Posted 10/22/2008 10:11 AM (#341867 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


cuz even EA can get a 49.5". ; )
ILmuskie
Posted 10/22/2008 10:27 AM (#341869 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL
50 lbs is true trophy musky!

Rare! Probably one 50 lbs every 5 to 10 years! Lets said........40 lbs is real trophy fish! Tom Gelb got 48 lbs and 51 lbs! Larry Ramsell got 3 fish over 45 lbs! Wow!
Fish big fish lakes and spent many hours on big fish lakes!
momuskies
Posted 10/22/2008 10:38 AM (#341873 - in reply to #341869)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




Posts: 431


Nothern oppression. They just don't grow that big down here (very often) in Missouri/Sourthern Illinois, and you northerners are just looking for another way to stomp on us "southerners" by denying us the chance to catch a trophy-if you define a trophy as 50+ inches.

I, like many others, have topped out at 49.5. I still am searching for that 50. The next one that does a headshake and throws my bait will probably make me cry.
missourimuskyhunter
Posted 10/22/2008 10:56 AM (#341881 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?





Posts: 1316


Location: Lebanon,Mo
Why 50'?? Because being from Missouri you dont see those fish down here.Sure i want to net a 50,but if i had a choice North versus South,it's going to be down here.There is no record of a 50" out of Missouri yet.(Tired of rumors)It will happen soon and i want to be standing in line first.
Mr Musky
Posted 10/22/2008 11:00 AM (#341882 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 999


My PB is 49 1/2" as well and im not satisfied with that, and I wont be until I reach the benchmark with a legit Fifty or better. It's my main goal that I try to achieve each and every year. After that goal is attained my self pressure will be off.

Mr Musky
ILmuskie
Posted 10/22/2008 12:49 PM (#341908 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL
Southern, Ohio and Pa. Muskies get fatter but live short! Maybe that's explain why muskies get 50 " is rare when they eat all you can eat Shad buffets!
Tackle Industries
Posted 10/22/2008 12:52 PM (#341910 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 4053


Location: Land of the Musky
Fred!!! You just need to fish with bigger lures! LOL
James
momuskies
Posted 10/22/2008 12:56 PM (#341912 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?




Posts: 431


Yeah Fred. Go throw the pounder this weekend. Those Southern Mo skis have never seen anything like it. Or as they like to say on Pomme de Terre when throwing the mag super d-"Must be fishin for gar."
ILmuskie
Posted 10/22/2008 12:58 PM (#341913 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL
Forget to add that I would perfer muskies in weight than length in Illinois, Ohio, Pa, etc where they eat shad! My good friend caught a 52" 38 lbs and 49" 33 lbs in Pa. I know a 47" weight 30 lbs in a private lake that have lot of shad. Also northern states...weight would be perfer for me when they eat ciscoes, whitefish, etc. Tom Gelb caught a 53" @ weight 51 lbs! WOW! Late Fall....heavier than spring in most places.
MRoberts
Posted 10/22/2008 11:27 PM (#342028 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 714


Location: Rhinelander, WI
Here is a dorky conversation we had last spring trying to solve this same delema. It was in context of trying to figure a way to score released musky for a "Book" much like they do for deer. Anyway there is some stuff there you might find interesting.

http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/board/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=40...

Nail A Pig!
Mike

Edited by MRoberts 10/22/2008 11:29 PM
ILmuskie
Posted 10/23/2008 6:45 AM (#342035 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: Re: why 50"?





Posts: 371


Location: Dixon, IL
MRoberts,
That's interesting and I missed that!

Tournaments....lengths

State or World Record...keep fish for weight!

Personal best (release) ...length X Girth = weight! OR length

Illinois State Record is only 38 lbs 8 oz is way back to April 20, 2002! No break record for at least 6 years...most of us let fish back to water! Break record mean keep a fish! I know several over 40 lbs in several lakes in Illinois! I am sure that anytime that will break state reocrd soon!
guest
Posted 10/23/2008 4:22 PM (#342140 - in reply to #341744)
Subject: RE: why 50"?


Why was breaking the 4:00 minute mile barrier so special?
Why is hitting .300 in baseball such a feat?
Why is a 20 win season for a pitcher such a cherished goal?
Why does a bowler look for perfection in a 300 game?
Why is a hole-in-one the thing that all golfers strive for?

Get my drift? Go get your 50" !!
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