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| There is a thread asking for people to report how they did on the water last week, so I did just that. I mentioned how a group of 10 of us caught 88 Muskies in 4 days on LOTW, but didn't get more specific, as I don't have the time to ask the other 9 guys for permission to give out the exact details. A few of you seem to find it offensive that I'd make that claim, but refuse to name the baits used and/or the exact locations on LOTW where we caught the fish. Are you the same guys who must photoshop-out the backgrounds in every Muskie picture you post here? Why is that such an accepted practice on this site, while you critisize someone else for NOT giving exact information? I find that a bit strange. They recently held a Muskie School up there, and I had a couple different people e-mail me the results of how they did. I'm sure the people running the schools take pride in the fact that they're putting people on fish, some of whom may be catching their first Muskies. I think they make their results known every year after the school is over, and most of the time people are glad to hear the information. On this site I saw a post stating that they should "quit having so many Muskie Schools up there". You can't really believe they're hurting the resource by posting their results. My point is that there seems to be two kinds of people who frequent this website, those who want this kind of information available, and those who want to keep it on the down-low. In the past I have always tried to be as helpfull as possible, sometimes to the dismay of my Muskies Inc. Chapter members, but since I don't think a person can "win" in this situation either way, I now choose to keep the details to myself. If you don't believe the results we acheived without having every specific detail, you are free to do so. We did what I said we did, and that is just a simple fact whether I give the exact details or not. I will give you guys ONE very specific detail about a fishing lure and technique from last week, just so you won't be too irritated with me, and here it is: NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THE 88 MUSKIES WE CAUGHT WAS TAKEN ON A WEAGLE!  Have a good season gentlemen. Catch a big one. | |||
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| sworrall |
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Posts: 32958 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | A point or two from an editorial position. MuskieFIRST is a very large community. We have residents and visitors from all over the globe, but of course, the base is from the heart of Muskie country. In any community, there is a wide cross section of folks of all ages, personalities, and experience levels. Some have no sense of humor, some have a very dry sense of humor, and some are not only very funny, but also socially adept and willing to interact. All of us are here for a single reason...we fish for muskies. Muskie anglers are a curious lot. If you tell them something works, some will go try it, some will think it over and eventually try it, and most will keep doing what they have been. But if you tell them something worked REALLY well, and don't tell them what that might have been, a few are going to press for details. That's a surprise? No double standard, just status quo. Some of us post regularly, some not so regularly, and most never. Example: There are currently 110 people online, 51 registered, and 59 guests. Welcome to you all! New posts in the last week, 1061. User sessions this week so far 12,754. That should tell you how many folks read the material here and never utter a peep. My point is there is a heck of alot more than 'Two types of people visiting this site'. If Derrys walked into a bar where a large group of muskie anglers were sitting, and was asked how his last trip went, I'm sure he would have given a similar report. A few of the anglers would say, 'Nice trip, congrats! Any Pictures?" A few would nod and say, "Nice!". And a couple would say, "Where were you fishing LOTW? What was the hot presentation?" If no other information was forthcoming, a couple would say, " Awww, come on man, what's the rest of the story???" Most of the folks in that bar would watch all this, say nothing, and quietly form whatever opinion they might...and the rest will never know what that opinion is. That's exactly what happened here. Now before you say it, yes, the conversation is with a much larger audience. But the dynamics are what they are, and people will be people. FSF hit it dead on...if you talk about tremendous success on a trip and give no other details, you can expect to get questions, some fairly pointed, and what ABOUT the folks who talk openly about success but keep the where and how secret? Well, that's the way it is, folks can offer what they like for fishing reports on MuskieFIRST, and the rest of us will be left to try and figure any mysteries. Obvious replies to the 'secret spot' deal...there are very few of those, and on lakes like LOTW NW Angle, Vermilion, Mille Lacs, Green Bay and other popular destinations, your secret spot is also other's, and will become a community spot when you both show up there at the same time. I bet resorts on other not-so-popular waters would love to be complaining that business is too good right now. The rest of stephendawg's post was absolutely correct, if an area is hot, a lure is hot, or a technique is hot, Muskie anglers will hear about it eventually! As far as the remark about none of the fish being caught on a Weagle, that must mean not many of your group was throwing one. Why is that lure mentioned so much? because so many fish are getting pinned up on it. Now this is interesting...the very same folks who are complaining about pressure to give up info about successful patterns and areas fished complain about it when that information is offered and it's on a lure they either don't use or don't think they need. I wonder if those folks would be happier if I lied after having a 31 fish three month run on the same black Weagle and said they were caught on a spoon; or should I stop fishing that lure as one of my go to topwaters so they don't have to hear about how many fish eat the thing? How many were caught on double 10 spinners? Wait, that's a DCG, right? or is it a DC10? | ||
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Posts: 1764 Location: Ogden, Ut | sworrall - 8/7/2008 8:07 AM There are currently 110 people online, 51 registered, and 59 guests. Welcome to you all! New posts in the last week, 1061. User sessions this week so far 12,754. OK, spill it, whacha catch 'em on?  | ||
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Posts: 2024 | cjmuskie - 8/7/2008 9:51 AM To the guys that went to the Muskie School up at LOTW. What an awesome trip; I would love to have seen that, 88 muskies in four days. WWWWOOOWWWW!! Brad and group weren't part of the University of Esox musky school, though with more guys I think they DEFINITELY could have put up similar numbers. The U of Esox group boated 174 fish. Read their results... very detailed if that's the kind of report you want.  http://www.fishinfo.com/fishing-articles/article_445.shtml | ||
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| Steve, I thought that Weagle comment would get you excited, and it was done in jest of course. I know full well that the Weagle is a good bait, and you're right in stating that we didn't get fish on it because we weren't using it. The fish were going for a different presentation at the time. Personally, I caught 6 of my 9 fish on Rad Dogs, a Yellow one and a Brown/Orange one. I'm sure many fish were caught on double 10's, but I fished with my brother every day so I only know what he and I were using. The point I was attempting to make in my previous post was simply that there is no way to give out fishing reports and information that will satisfy everybody. Some will want more details than you give, and some will wish you hadn't mentioned "their lake" or technique, etc. In the future I'll probably just avoid posting to threads like this altogether. I had assumed that the purpose of a message board was simply to share information, but didn't realize the degree to which the specifics of said information would be required. Top H2O, I meant no offense in stating my reply, I just can't give out detailed info without the ok from the guys who put up the numbers. No hard feelings. | |||
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Posts: 32958 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | |||
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| I guess if I didn't care to read about "what's working where" or "who's catching what" I wouldn't have stayed on this site for so many years. Most of it doesn't impact me directly. I just find it fun to read. I've certainly been misunderstood a time or two on this site and in life in general. But, I keep coming back. Must be the videos! | |||
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