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| Find it kind of stange why some people are so secretive about lakes they catch big muskies on. I see a lot coming from this LAKE X. WHERE IS THIS BODY OF WATER? I would love to drive my X Truck with my X Boat, use my X Rod and Reel spooled with X superbraid line and cast my X lure to catch one of those moster X muskies! |
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| I agree. Why post if you're so afraid of revealing the lake. I also like when guys edit a picture of a 30 inch fish so you can't see the shoreline. Let me just pack up everything and try to go catch that 30 incher. I am going to sponsor legislation in all states with musky that provides for no open season on all Lake Xs. |
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| Why does it bother you so much? Maybe the reason why they post lake X is the same reason why you are bothered by it? They don't want people to flock to the lake they are doing good on when there are a limited number of muskie lakes. |
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Location: where the fish are... | lake x is the bomb, if i could just find it |
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| I fished Lake X tonight and wouldn't you know it... I caught a fish! BTW Lake X is in the Twin Cities metro area for all you guys looking for it. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Lake X is actually in Canada. I'm there now. |
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Location: BLOOMINGTON,IL | I am glad to see this discussion. Regarding Lake X, be proud of your fish and where you caught it. I enjoy looking at pictures and just seeing where people are catching nice fish. I do enough research on spots and fish patterns that I do not focus on muskie website images. And to think that most guys on here just sit around looking at the pictures with plans of trying to find them is crazy.
Stop playing the Lake X card!! Be proud of your catch! |
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| yeah we are proud and we want to stay proud,thats why we tell lakeX.easy no? |
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Location: WI | I fish a Lake X...I'm sure you'll hear about it more in the next few years. I also fish another lake x that is really small, tiny in fact. |
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Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151 | Lake X is like Doctor "X" once the mask came off nobody cared. Say Lake X is LOTW...OK now everybody knows go fish it.
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| Muskie fishing is all about the deception. Photoshop the shoreline. Hide the bait. Jam the fish out at the camera with arms as straight as 2 x 4s. See how large these fish I catch are?? But that's all I want you to know. If only my overblown ego wouldn't get in the way, I'd keep these photos off the internet. Dang it all to heck!
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Steve: We all know that your Lake "X" is actually Lake "Y" where only Sue can catch fish 
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| Beazzle Bub has a point to some extent. By posting "Lake x" on photos, or photoshopping the background, you aren't really intending to assist your fellow anglers. Instead, you're looking for some congrats and recognition for your catch. Mr. Beazzle wants to call that egotistical, but I don't know that you have to go that far. For some, maybe.
I don't think there's anything wrong with seeking a pat on the back once in awhile, as long as you are honest to yourself that those are your intentions. It's exciting to catch a big fish. Why not share your excitement? And is there a better forum than this for sharing? |
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| not exactly...but nice try...I fish some lakes that are lake x's and I'd rather not have on the net....some that aren't...I did enter a 45" on the Madison Chain recently..no lake x there...
to each there own guest1... I don't mind all the lake x's in the big fish contest... I'd rather see the pics than no pics at all |
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Location: Ogden, Ut | Lake X may truly be mythical, or even deceptive, but it seems that most of the complaints about labeling a lake 'X' come from 'User X', i.e., unregistered anonymous users. I see nothing wrong w/ keeping a few things secret; I have as many Lake Xs as anyone, due to the friendships I have made on this site (or maybe that's because I live about 1800 miles away from them and the chance that I will frequent them is almost nil). Will I divulge them? no. Even if they weren't shown to me in confidence, I have enough personal responsibility to respect the amount of work of the person that took the time and effort to find them.
So my advice is that if you want a pocket full of Lake Xs to choose from, go ahead and register as a user, get to know a few folks and network a bit. It's fun, and the fishing is the least of the rewards you will experience.
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Location: Wausau | I believe there are many reason(s) for posting Lake X instead of the actual name. I'm more entertained with the pictures and a story than the lake name. I have limited myself from posting recently b/c some of the bigger fish I have caught were directly related to information from a friend and out of their trust I won't share the information...maybe others are in the same boat. I do agree that their are a lot of people looking for the fastest road to more fish and if one were to post that they caught 5 fish all over 40 inches in a night on a 300 acre lake 20 minutes out of Minocqua, I believe the pressure on that lake would increase. We all like the feeling we get when we pull into the launch parking lot and see it empty vs. 10 rigs with Rollie and Helens stickers. One last thought, I think many of the Lake X's are known lakes, but many people just over look them and drive right by - unless they heard it was a good lake to fish. There are so many lake choices in certain areas to fish, once you find one that continues to produce would you want extra pressure? |
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Location: Syracuse, New York | I can see keeping a specific spot to yourself, but an entire body of water?
Especially on here where most people will offer helpful advice and encourage other anglers.
Plus, my guess is, unless a fish is 60" plus, your not going to see a big increase in pressure from a couple of pictures. |
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Location: where the fish are... | alot of people spend their hard time on the water patterning fish, have spots they hit on a daily basis. The only way to do this is to be consistant and keep this to yourself. Do other people know about your lake x... sure they do and they dont talk about it either. |
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| One picture in a Mpls. newspaper caused the Ministry to shut down Lac Seul to total C&R for nearly 20 years now.
That was before the internet.
Lake X is a MUST in Muskie fishing. |
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| I've seen many lakes go bad due to increased fishing pressure from an aggressive musky bite. What I mean is the muskies are going crazy on a lake, the word gets out, everyone goes and fishes and then the bite stops. I've seen it on three or four different lakes.
It all depends on what is important to you, sharing information with fellow anglers, or capitalizing on what you're hard work has uncovered. I'm more inclined to the latter.
One more factor, if I'm catching fish on Lake Tomahawk, I'll tell you, but if it is one of many small lakes that I fish. I'm not talking!
It's not about the where, it's about the how (Jim Saric taught me that one)
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Location: Cedarburg, Wisconsin | Lake X is a good thing! Mentioning small lakes by name is a bad thing. If there are 1000 people that visit an internet site thread over a period of time and 1% decide that Lake X is a good spot to try, then you have another 10 boats to fight your way through to get to the fish. Even if you aren't there at the same time, they'll burn the fish you could have caught. Then they'll tell their friends and now you have even more boats and burnt fish. If you mention a big lake, you probably won't notice the added boats, but on a little 300 acre lake it makes a big difference. |
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| those who don't think increased pressure can come from telling the masses the lake you are getting fish on either haven't been in this sport long enough, or don't fish/catch that much...imo. sorry to be blunt but that is the way it is..do you think Mille Lacs was a Lake X not that long ago? yes it was ...there are many bodies of water even right now that are up and coming and people ARE fishing and getting fish over 50 that most on this board haven't heard of or even know exist...will they be known to the masses in the near future..probably...but right now there are still bodies of water that don't get the publicity like ML or V but still have great fishing oppornunities ....Look at a certain area on the Madison Chain right now...heard there were 15 musky boats in the area last nite from word getting out fish were hitting there... increased pressure is real...
I share info to people that share it with me back...or friends of mine...in musky fishing if you don't want to show up on your favorite spot/lake with increased pressure it is best to keep it to a select few..is that selfish? yes.
you kind of have to be to some extent..unless you like playing bumper boats. |
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| I fully agree that posting about certain bodies of water can increase pressure, but why post a picture at all if you're afraid to reveal where it came from. Looking for a pat on the back to stroke your ego. Seems foolish that the joy and excitement received from catching the fish isn't enough and validation is needed from others. |
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| BLA BLA BLA
Ego this Ego that.
IT IS A CONTEST! PERIOD!
Most of these people aren't posting to show you how cool they are"with my big fish"....
They're entering a contest.
Some of you people are just mad you have to actually work to catch fish.
What lake? where at? what time? what bait? Come on!
spend more time fishing than complaining about other people not sharing and maybe, just maybe you'll be the 1 holding a fish from and undisclosed lacation. |
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| I feel that "Lake X" is pointless for 2 reasons.
1. Most all people on this board know what lakes are at least decent lakes already and are not going to hurry up and jump in there cars to go to "your" lake.
2. Catch and release. The fish are still going to be there.
I do agree with the fishing pressure issue though. Some lakes are not that big or the "spots" can get crowded.
If I get asked where I caught a musky, I do reveal the lake but, I usually do not reveal the spot.
Just my opinion.
Later, Tom
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | I have no isses with the lake X. There are several small bodies of water in Wisconsin that are simply golden, they would NOT be that way if they were advertised.
I do however think the whole blotting out the picture background is silly, you won't ever catch me doing that |
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Location: Rhinelander, WI | There is lots that can be gained and learned by people posting pictures and telling stories of fish caught out of Lake X. To belittle people or call them egotistical for trying to keep some of the info close to the vest, does nothing but limit the free flow of information.
If it’s a big lake many people will say it, but they most likely wont say where in the lake the fish where caught. For example something like “we spent a week in Canada, on LOTW and caught 20 muskies” will not be followed by “all from Borrows Bay”. Heck Borrows bay is probably still 10 time bigger than most of the Lake Xs in Northern Wisconsin.
I know there are many guys out there catching lots of fish and NOT posting anything about them because of attitudes like some of those above. Look at the threads, not very many pictures. Now go look at the Big fish contest board, lots more nice fish with NO stories about how they were caught. Why were they posted there, ego….no because it’s a contest and maybe they want a free mount. I give the guys here lots of credit for starting that “Bragging Board” if they didn’t we would be seeing A LOT less nice fish pictures! It would be cool though to have more of the stories like we used to get in the threads, but I guess that is to ego driven.
Going to go hit a couple Lake Xs in a few hours and can’t wait to get on the water!
Nail A Pig!
Mike
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| Information is voluntary. I agree 100% with Nelson about pressure and the word getting out. I will give you one example. I am not mad at this guy by no means but I ran into a club member at R&H last year and we got to talking and his weekend was nowhere near what my weekend was. I told him where I was fishing which is not too much farther from his place up north. Want to take a guess where he fishes alot now? Again not upset but just an example of just telling one person.
One thing people can do if they do not want the background in a photo is to take a knee or sit with the fish and have the photographer stand All you get is boat and water.
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Location: WI | Exactly was Jason Bomber said......
It's a contest (that allows Lake X to be submitted). If we didn't allow Lake X to be submitted there would be a lot more fish said to be caught elsewhere (ever look at Muskie Inc. Lungen Log?) that were not.
I just got my butt handed to me over the weekend and tried out a new lake. My buddy and I spent $600 between lodging and gas to get there. Our result? A 36.5" and a lost 36" in 3 days of fishing. If I had a bunch of success on this lake, should I post the lake so that someone else can benefit from my hard work? I could if I wanted too. But if I didn't want to, I would hope you would understand why.
I like to see pictures of big fish. I'm glad that Lake X is allowed. I'm also glad to see bn uses a slip bobber as a way of fishing....I think I've found a new pattern.
After a while you learn who you can trust with information and who you can't.
GotOne
Edited by GOTONE 7/1/2008 2:46 PM
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| Using Lake X is the responsible thing to do unless it's a Mille Lacs, Vermillion, Leech, Eagle, etc. I've fished one sub-3000 acre lake quite a bit in the past 10 years. The lake has decent fishing, some big fish (but not a ton), and is beautiful and usually pretty quiet. Up until last year I rarely, if ever, would see more than one other boat on the lake fishing muskies. Last year I started seeing that lake mentioned by certain people on the internet (not on this site) and wouldn't you know it, this past Saturday morning as I was packing up to leave the lake there were no less than 5 muskie boats on it not including me. 3 of those 5 were Rangers...never seen a Ranger on that lake in my life. Coincidence, maybe, but I honestly believe the increase in pressure is directly related to the internet. Big lakes can handle additional pressure, but smaller lakes can not. In the internet era I truly believe it is irresponsible for people to post reports on small lakes. Too many people are going to chase that bite, especially with gas prices being the way they are.
Please keep smaller lake names and specific spots off the internet. Once they are posted, they are there forever. |
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