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Location: Bristol, IN | Where are some hot spots to hit in the spring and what lures to use would be a lot of help. |
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Location: Seymour, WI | I've done well using small twitch baits and small bucktails in the spring. Firetiger has been my best color. You can find fish in all of the spawning bays, Misery bay, rice bay, outlet bay. The areas adjacent to the spawning bays can be good too. LVD is a very streaky lake. It's either on or off, feast or famine. If the sun is out, you will catch lots of pike while musky fishing.
Grass
Edited by Grass 3/20/2008 1:15 PM
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| There is not one bad acre of water on Vieux Desert that's what makes it so tough, especially when the grass comes up. Im hoping for a late spring and hopefully some of the weeds will have died out through the winter. But as grass mentioned small/bright and Natural colored baits in Rice or Thunder Bay are the ticket! The shallower the better!! Right through Memorial day!!
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| I did very good trolling near Missary Bay with 10" Jakes and Believers early in the season. 10' to 20' depths were the key.
Just be prepared for idiots yelling at you saying that you can't troll on LVD! |
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Location: Sherry, WI | Cut-n-paste from The Guide to Wisconsin Hook and Line Fishing Regulations 2007-2008, page 52:
"Motor trolling is permitted on Wisconsin-Michigan Boundary Waters except Vilas County boundary waters, where motor trolling is prohibited."
Lac Vieux Desert is in Vilas County; therefore motor trolling is prohibited, Reelman. Or were you row trolling?
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Location: Clintonville, WI | MTM, are you coming up for the WMT on LVD?
4 out of my 5 trips to LVD have been early season and I've had a shallow curse on me (one was for WMT). Downsizing hasn't worked, slowing down hasn't worked........but that's just my history there. I'm quite sure I'm the early season minority with that.
If I ever fish LVD early again, I'm starting my progression one cast off the deeper weed lines and working my way in from there. I'd also probably go aggressive with presentation versus finesse. What the heck, I may as well do everything different. |
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| jeff, those are Wisconsin regulations, if you are on the Michigan side which Misery Bay is you can go by MI regulations. I have had this verified by both WI and MI Wardens for that area. |
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Location: Sherry, WI | dang, now if that ain't confusin'... |
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Location: Bristol, IN | BigMo,
Yes, I'll be up for the WMT. Just tried to get some feedback.
How's the ice situation there? Will it be off for the 24th?
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Location: WESTERN WI | Reelman,
Wouldn't you have to possess a Michigan Fishing License to fall under Michigan's Hook and Line Regulations?
Edited by Got Esox? 5/6/2008 8:54 PM
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| Nope! I contacted the Warden from both WI and MI and when I did I asked them that very question and they both said that either liscense would allow you to follow MI rules. |
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | I'm going to check on this one today. It almost sounds like the warden was messing with you. You have a WI license, and can go by MI rules? Then the law in the WI regs stating no motor trolling on boundary waters in Vilas Co. is void? Not judging here, I think the ban on motor trolling up here is ridiculous anyway. I'll be driving by the Woodruff DNR station in about a half hour, I'll stop in and see if any wardens are there and ask them.
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| I lived on LVD for 20 years and it was never open for trolling. There were always a few that used the excuse cited in the previos post but they always got a ticket. |
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| I'm pretty sure if you fish the MI side and only have a WI license you're going to have bigger problems than whether or not you can motor troll... |
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| IM GLAD TO HEAR PEOPLE ARE BEING TICKETED. I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM WITH THAT LOOPHOLE IN THE RULE BOOKS. MAYBE U CAN GET THAT MI OR WI WARDEN WHOEVER IT WAS TO GO OVER TO SMOKY AND START BUSTING THOSE JOKERS. IVE CALLED NUMEROUS TIMES AND CANT GET THE EAGLE RIVER DNR TO COME UP THERE. THE ONLY ONES WHO GO ARE FROM CRYSTAL FALLS AND THEYRE SILLY YOOPERS WHO DONT SEEM TO CARE. |
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| Wisconsin needs to change a lot of there regulations!!!!!!! If you listen to all the pro musky fishermen they are always ripping on Wisconsin and the way they do things. Not being able to motor troll in most of the state is a silly regulation!!! Every other state around Wisconsin is open to trolling. Wisconsin needs to take away silly regulations and put some real regulations in place like better size limits!!!!!! They also need to put more effort into stocking musky, because they are losing a lot of fishermen like myself to other states. |
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| guest, I suspect WI does what it does for a lot of reasons. I also suspect that "making muskie fishermen happy" is probably near the bottom of the list of reasons to pass or not pass legislation. |
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| Wisconsin does what it does to bring tourist, but what it doesn't realize is its doing the opposite!!!!! Wisconsin needs to keep not only musky fishermen in mind but all fishermen if its wants the economy to do well up there. |
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Location: Medford, WI | I'm interested to hear what Jason found out from the warden/s. Probably won't affect me at all as I don't really have a set-up for trolling; however, I will be up there for the summer and would maybe give it a whirl if it's legal.
As far as the debating what/why Wisconsin "does what it does", I think that's a whole different discussion and Mike is just trying to figure out a few spots to try out. Thanks for bringing this up Mike; I plan on hitting LVD several times this summer and have never fished it before. Thanks for the tips to those who have commented.
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| Just as a note
I know reelman and if he says thats what he was told. I would not doubt him for a second. He's an honest guy with a real love for this sport. Wheather its right or not I could not tell you. |
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Location: Grand Rapids, MI | - On the boundary lakes either a Michigan or Wisconsin resident or non-resident license works for the entire body of water.
- Fishing with the motor running (motor trolling) is legal on the Michigan side of LVD only, it is not allowed on any of the other boudary waters.
Complete info - http://www.michigan.gov/documents/dnr/MI-WI-boundary-waters_229790_...
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | I stopped by the DNR office this morning, and was given the number of Tim Price, Conservation Warden for the Vieux Desert area. I called him and he expained to me that you CAN motor troll on the MI side of the lake, and that the regs can be confusing concerning that subject. Determining where the state line is without a mapping gps might be interesting...
The term he used was 'territorial waters', and that if the water is in MI, you can motor troll. We had a nice conversation, seems like a nice and helpful guy, and encouraged anyone with any question not to hesitate to contact the DNR for clarification.
Was kind of cool to learn something new today!
JS
Edited by J.Sloan 5/7/2008 2:54 PM
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| Back to the original question. That tourney is hit or miss with the fish. Finding good green weeds is the best choice. The west shore is all one big weed line that can produce some good fish. The Indian village generally has good weeds. If the Crappie fisherman are along the reeds fish around them or if you ask some will let you fish through them. You will find Muskies hanging around. If you can get up a day early and just run the motor slowly or trolling motor scouting it can help out. Glide baits have done well for me along with orange bucktails (or at least some form of orange). The ice is off the lake and Walley fishing was good last weekend. We did see on mid 40" muskie cruising the south shore. Water temps as of Saturday evening 5-4-08 wer 43. Good luck with the WMT that weekend. |
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Location: NE Wisconsin | Cut-n-paste from The Guide to Wisconsin Hook and Line Fishing Regulations 2007-2008, page 52:
"Motor trolling is permitted on Wisconsin-Michigan Boundary Waters except Vilas County boundary waters, where motor trolling is prohibited."
The above is from an earlier post. If read closely it means, in WI counties other then Vilas County, you can troll on boundary waters, on BOTH sides of the state line, BUT in Vilas county, you can NOT troll on Vilas county boundary waters, But you can troll on Michigan boundary waters. If you are on the WI side of the line, you are Vilas County boundary waters and can not troll. If you are on the Michigan side you are on Michigan boundary waters and you are legal to troll. Simple, but often misunderstood.
John Aschenbrenner
Edited by Johnnie 5/7/2008 7:44 PM
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Location: Rhinelander. | Thank you for clearing that up so nicely. Its a question I've asked wardens several times and got mixed answers. Your replies are clear and very understanable... Shhhhhhhhhhhh smokey has no more muskies!!!!!!!!
Thanks .......Pfeiff |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | Jason, did you get your answer for only LVD, or did it apply to ALL Vilas county boundary waters?
For years I have gotten mixed answers as well, and I have always errored on the side of not trolling especially since I really didn't do it much. Now that I have picked up trolling a bit I have interest in doing it on some water bodies that are boundary waters. |
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Location: Lake Tomahawk, WI | Travis,
The understanding I took from the conversation was that you can. "Michigan territorial waters" was the term, and on these waters you can motor troll. However, from the MI regs:
-You may fish from a motorboat with the motor running or a sailboat under sail only on the Michigan portions of the waters of Lac View Desert in Gogebic Co.
Now I need to talk to a MI warden to clarify this statement. Is it simply giving the regulation for View Desert (since it is the most popular of the boundary lakes), or exlcuding all of the other (MI side of Vilas) boundary waters to trolling? When I spoke to Officer Price he did not have a MI reg book in front of him and neither did I. I'll see what I can do to contact a MI warden who works that area, as he would most likely know plus he'd be the one checking you anyway. Might take me a few days, I gotta go put siding on my cousin's house. Later.
JS
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Its LVD only. Why? I was told because of the few other Boundry waters that this could apply to, only LVD offers the water area to troll and a Michigan landing. The Cisco Chain (West Bay, Big and Mamie) has Michigan waters to troll, but not enough to make it worth the time to do it, nor is there a Michigan launch for on any of the three. Tenderfoot's only access is from Palmer, the Michigan DNR doesn't patrol it.
The Michigan DNR uses Michigan launches to patrol Michigan waters. |
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Location: Waukesha & Land O Lakes, WI | Oh, not to be rude MuskyTail Mike, but you're fishing a tourny, I wouldn't expect to see too much legit info that's going to help you against the other 59 boats out there. "I'm going to fish a Tourny on LVD...Help me with Spots?" isn't going to win you any favors. |
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Location: Oconto Falls, WI | John the comment about MI DNR using MI launches is not correct. I have been on lakes where the MI DNR uses the WI launch (only launch on lake) to patrol the lake. In some cases I have never seen a WI DNR on the lake with a launch on the WI side, but do see MI DNR on the same lake. |
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