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| My new bucktaiils to save money.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Nice tails fish4life! I have just built some too. Check out pics of lure forum towards end. you'll see em. Nice way to save some cash for the musky shows coming up. |
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| Thanks needa70lber, just trying to save some money for me and a couple of friends, i tried to find yours but seems to me its that its not up anymore!! |
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Location: Land of the Musky | One item I incorporated into my bucktails was the first hook placement. I see yours are away from the blades. The theory I heard, and believe in, is that when a muskie or pike is zeroing in on the vibration they will hit the blades or right behind them. For this reason I put my first treble hook right behind the blades. Not so they touch when they are trying to get started out but right behind that point. About 2-3 mm behind the blades if you let the bucktail hang. Not sure if it helps hook ups but I like the theory  After hearing this I did look at my Cowgirls and the blades (when hanging) just miss touching the first split rings. Nice bucktails BTW! What brand of flashabou are you using and what size hooks? |
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| tacklebooty, i use both methods of the hook placement, iI guess it depends on where iam fishing, i will try to put one up with the hook up in the front!! I use the cheap flashaboo from bass pro shop for now and i use mustad or eagle claw 5/0 or 7/0 depending on size!! All your lures i see on are awesome!! Thanks and i will try to put more of my buscktals up later after the bears game!! lol |
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| Here are two more with the hook below the blades.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | here are a few built the other day
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Location: Land of the Musky | Those are very nice! I like that green metalic blade on the bottom pic. |
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| keep up the good work needa70lber |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | thanks man. nice shad baits ever think about making deep diver model
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | I debated about first hook placement too since I kept the blades farther from the hair. Most musky try striking the bait near the head, or front of forage. I put the hook above hair body but didn't look right. I like the hidden hook affect. |
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Location: Land of the Musky | needa70lber-Yes. I want to make a 9 or 10 inch Shad. One for 10 foot and one for 25-30 foot. Problem is cash to make the models, molds, testing etc. and I am not sure how many people would want them... I sell a lot on eBay but if you watch my auctions you will soon see I don't get great prices. In fact I lose money on many of my auctions. eBay is not the best place to run a business. LOL Good way to get 5,000 lures out in 3 months though just not much to show for it and the FET taxes are killing me. Can't wait for tax time this year...yikes. |
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| a 9 to 10 inch sshadrap will be a very good seller,why?because nobody build that,and everyone like the supershad rap!try,you will not regret your move.some fisherman are very conservative,concern the name of lure builders,i dont use bulldawgs,but if i was one of those who like that,i will surely give a try to your superd,because they look good and the price is low
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Location: Land of the Musky | Just a matter of getting one to work. These are not trivial lures to make... Molds are expensive and each screwup in design costs you a lot...
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | ronf is right on I would buy em up, none out there, especially one with a rattle. can see where money can be tight on molds and yes can't run business entirely on ebay.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | tacklebooty - 12/2/2007 6:34 PM
Those are very nice! I like that green metalic blade on the bottom pic.
The other blade is hard to see on that fat perch color it is a translucent yellow with the translucent green. |
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| What are you guys using as a base for tying the marabou or flashabou to the wire. I coiled up some stanless 0.040" wire for that purpose but wondering if there are alternatives that can be store bought.
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| Pete,I use throtle cable, like you use on your lawn mowing machine!! Its like 5 to 10 bucks depending on the lenght of cable. Ace hardware, Farm and Fleet etc...
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| Moore's Lures (and probably Stamina) have coils you can buy to tie material to. |
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| Thanks guys, A few other questions:
How important it is to have a coil that spins freely on the wire shaft. The Double Cowgirls that I bought from the store have skirts that spin freely. My home made coils are a bit tight. Hoping that this does not create more of a tendency for the skirt to get tangled with the middle hook on the bucktail.
Other questoin is if you are using storebought coil, how are you securing the coil while tying the mateiral on. On my home made coils, I kept a straight piece still attached that I clamped with my fly tying vice which I trimmed after securing the flashabou.
Also, checked out moors lures - they have a good selection of musky supplies. Thanks for the tip.
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| If its marabou i would wrap it with fly line and epoxy it, if its flashabou i zip tie to the coils but you can tie it up with fly tying material also and i aslo zip tie my rubber skirts around the rubber band it comes on with the smallest zip tie you can get by with, the bigger the zip tie i found it limits the action, I dont mind the skirt spinning as long as it keeps its action. Also esox50 is right you can find these at what he mentioned or you can buy flashabou tie up for you through www.htlures.com!! If you buy through Rollie& Helens that is the company they sell! If you dont like your skirt to spin Stamina sell coils with keel weights on them. Hopefully this helps you and good luck!!
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Location: Bloomington, Illinois | Here are a few I did over the weekend...I'm trying using rattles...The big double 10 has a large saltwater shark rattle....
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | great baits, never thought about the rattle. awesome stuff!
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| After making a handfull of these double 10 bucktail baits, I am finding that the flashabou goes fast and is by far the most expensive component of the lure. I use about 1/2 to 2/3 of a flashabou bundle for each bait. Has anybody found a source that sells this material in bulk quantities for lower price? Best source that I found so far is Angler's Workshop at $3.29 (standard and pearl) to $3.79 (holo and glow) per pack.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Here are some more baits made this weekend? This is how to pass the times. 
Left to right: Classic Jailbird/black/chart, Sucker Punch/transorange/brass, Jackpot (for size), Mystic Cisco/transblue/nickle, Pumpkin Crush/chart/orange
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Location: Bloomington, Illinois | Nice bucktails!!! I will be working on my tying technique this winter |
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| Nice tails. I like the Chippewa Flowage map for background too! Here is a picture of my first batch from this weekend.
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Great sticker eyes! Cool stuff! Is this your first batch ever? If so incredible looking baits. That top green one is a great color. Translucent green or black blade hard to tell? You must fish the chip?
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | Hope these tails will look like my jackpot some day!  |
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