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Location: Northern Wisconsin | what are some cool jobs that allow you to fish alot or are related to muskie?
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Location: The desert | Fisheries Technician, Biologist, Manager etc. You have to be really commited to wanting to do it though as there is a lot of school work related to getting there. You better be good at math, chemistry and all forms of biology. You are more than welcome to come visit UWSP and sit in some classes with me if you want. I could also get you in front of some people to show you what each year of school would be like as far as class wise. You might not get to 'specialize' in musky but landing a field job gets you on the water almost every day and puts fish in your hands almost every day. Also, dont be hoping for a big income in this field, you wont get it. That said I wouldnt change my field of study for anything. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | There really are not many. Guiding, I suppose, but not everyone is cut out for that career path. Fishing industry jobs are many times 6 to 7 days a week with little time off. Educate yourself for a job where you have a good chance at LOTS of time off and big incomes, those are the folks who HIRE the Guides. |
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| not many you can actually make a living at... Probably the closest thing would be guiding, but unless you're either already wealthy or married to someone with a great job, I wouldn't count on earning enough to get by. I figured it out once, figured the best you could do was about $75k. Subtract your truck payment, boat payment, insurance payment, constant need for replacement gear, taxes, etc and you're lucky to bring home $600 a week. |
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Location: Athens, Ohio | tying bucktails. m |
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Location: Wausau | Go to college for a degree(s) in the educational field...teacher: classroom, Phy.Ed, behavioral, cognitive and/or learning disabilities, or pupil services as a guidance counselor (which is what I do), school psy. or social worker. No work from Mid June - Late August, Fall break (third Thursday/Friday of October), Thanksgiving, Xmas/New Years, and Spring Break/Easter. You'll have the prime times to spend on the water with no other responsibilites if you're single. |
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Location: On your favorite spot | Get a job at a bank, work 4 days a week, get tons of holidays off, and fish the rest of the time. |
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| Did I misunderstand esoxaddict when he said the best the muskie guide could do is gross 75,000.00 year? From that comes taxes and boat and truck payment and equipment? I would venture to guess there are lots of guys on this board that don't earn anything close to $75,000 per year. That sounds like pretty good earnings to me. |
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Location: The desert | Read his post again.....he said after subtracting truck, boat and taxes etc that you would be lucky to bring home $600 a week. Strange....that sounds like what my income will be, I may never get off eating raman noodles...:( |
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| mikie - 10/30/2007 12:50 PM
tying bucktails. m
making double cowgirls! |
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Location: Omaha, Nebraska | I would say guiding, teaching, lure builder, own a small business, or you could own a resort on your favorite lake. Good luck! |
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| get married to a rich chick and forget the job |
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| Pepper, I figured it based on 250 days OTW at $300/day. That's your gross salary. Knock off 25% for taxes, you're down to $56,250, or $4687/month.
Truck Payment: $450/Month
Boat Payment: $450/Month
Truck Insurance: $65/Month
Boat Insurance: $65/Month
Misc broken/lost/worn out equipment: $200/month
total monthly expenses: $1230, leaving you with $3457. Not bad eh? Except you forgot to buy GAS. Figure combined 75 gallons a week for boat and truck, at $3/gallon that's another $900 right there. $2557 left per month = $639.25/week in your pocket. Not pretty. Of course you DO get to be on the water a lot. A LOT.
And Demolished -- a resort??? LMAO!!! First off, where do you get the money to BUY it? And do you know anyone who actually owns/runs a resort? That's a 7 day/week job right there, no fishing for you!
Edited by esoxaddict 10/30/2007 3:30 PM
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| Fishformuskie....if you get it figured out let me know, I have been asking myself that question for the past year, LOL!  |
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | Jeff your equation is flawed, you did not take into account
Bad Weather Days
Customer No Shows
Health Insurance
Boat / Truck Maintenence, and I'm sure other stuff as well
This will all lower your spendable income drastically
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| Like to fish? And when I say "fish" I mean actually go where you want to go, when you want to go (within reason), and be able to afford to do it in a decent boat with decent equipment?
A few careers that allow you to do that: dentist, pilot, firefighter, teacher. I'm sure there are others, but when I think of decent income + lots of time off, those are the careers that come to mind. |
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Location: Oregon | Take it from someone who's been a biologist for 20 years, there is no "easy path" to fishing happiness. I would not recommend the profession of a fish bio to anyone, it requires alot of education followed by no guarantee for employment. I'm not saying you can't do it, but be prepared to work seasonal positions for many years before landing something permanent and be ready to move virtually anywhere in the nation to work. My recommendation? Get a master's in business, it will open a ton of doors for you.
Jed V.
Bikini Bait Co. |
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Location: Sandusky, OH | Let me add to what Jed said. In addition to the higher education with generally low prospects of permanent employment directly out of school, there is also the typically low wage when compared to equally educated people in other fields. I work for a great paying state, but when I see what other people are pulling down with the same or less time in school as me, I wonder if education really makes you smarter LOL! Now, the job is fantastic, and loving what you do goes a long way towards a happy life, but if working with muskies is your calling, there really are very few fisheries jobs out there that even offer that opportunity, and even if you work for a state with good musky populations, the work with that species is rarely exclusive. If muskies are your one and only interest, I'd get educated in a field with high demand that lets you pick where you live, like a pharmacist (really high demand and great pay).
If you are interested in pursuing a career in natural resource management, contact me and we can talk about my experiences. Wouldn't hurt to spend a couple days with your local fisheries biologists during the summer to really see what its like.
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| Daily chronicles chasing the world record.
Summer location:
Job description: Getting paid to hunt 24x7 and capture the next world record muskie. You pick the destinations and document them by video and daily journal. 500.00 a day expense allowance, boat, gear, truck, female filming crew included.
Winter relocation:
Chasing world record Tarpon in the Keys and surrounding islands.
Same perks but filming crew wears bikinis.
If any of you know this to exist and need a monkey boy to fetch your rods, scotch or cigars I'm the man!
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Location: Omaha, Nebraska | fish4musky1 - 10/30/2007 12:08 PM
what are some cool jobs that allow you to fish alot or are related to muskie?
Esoxaddict he said, "or related to muskie?", so I thought being a resort owner, he would be talking to guests and guides about musky fishing all of the time. I know it is a lot of work, but some people enjoy it. I never said he was going to be able fish a lot. I have no clue where he is going to find the money, maybe he will marry rich or inherit a bunch of money. It definetly wasn't a top choice of mine, but I was just throwing out ideas.
Edited by DEMolishedyou2 10/30/2007 6:36 PM
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Location: Warroad, Mn | Very Hard to do and still make a living.
Guiding is very low income, and subject to muskie population fluctuations and yearly weather changes on the waters that you fish, which is probably very common. If general (from what I can tell) you need to be single, or have some other source of income to be a muskie guide, and expect to make ends meet.
Best bet is to find a good job with lots of time off. Then travel to the best muskie bite when it happens.
As mentioned school teaching is a good occupation for a full time muskie fisherman. Most guides, and good successful muskie fishermen that I know are school teachers, and have the summers off. Fishery biology will put you on the water a lot, but you'll rarely see a muskie.
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Location: Omaha, Nebraska | Also not necessarily on the water all the time but you could always start up your own musky tackle store.... build it next to a lake and you’re all set. It would be expensive and the start and a lot of hard work but defiantly musky related.
Eric
Edited by DEMolishedyou 10/30/2007 7:03 PM
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| $75 a week for gas????? Not on Mille Lacs and not in a 620. 51 gallons in the boat(and another $35-40 for a gallon of XD-100 oil) and 44 gallons of diesel in the truck.An easy $300 if I get the RED Twins(Marbs and Red Bull).Oh, and the powerhead I blew a month ago on an 06(covered under warranty) still cost me $1000 out of pocket. LOL.Good thing I can laugh now.Wasn't too funny a couple weeks ago.
Missed guide date-$400
Prop they said I had to have to keep warranty-$200 used
Oil-$74.95
Time and Fuel running back and forth-$300
Helping people fulfill their Muskie Dreams..........PRICELESS |
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| Jobs related to muskie fishing??
Id say become a lawyer specializing in domestic law,,,how many muskie anglers are in divorce or bankrupcy  |
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| Ask Herbie! |
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Location: South Portsmouth, KY | Take up a union trade like i am doing such as a pipefitter,electrican,boilermaker or another union trade. yea you might have to take 5 years of apprenticeship but after that 5years you can travel anywhere you want to work(time it with a hot fishin bite in a certain area and hitch up your boat and take it with you) and get paid very good. An in the time between jobs(layoffs) you can get some extra fishin time in! |
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Location: Bloomington, MN | Fish4musky1...The BIG Question(s)...How old are you??? If you are under the age of 30 (not married and don't have any baby human things)? I would shoot for the abject poverty goal in a New York minute. I would bet that at least 10% of the posters here would love nothing to do but fish for the elusive muskellunge, and try their darndest to make a living off of it. I had my opportunities, and passed them up for the "What is soceity going to think?" reasons. I unfortunately opted for marrying Chuckles "The Ex-Wonder wife!". You probably will go belly up in the short run, but it could be a fun ride(then write a book about your adventure...most of us all have lived "Time on the Water" in the bathroom). If you are married and have kids, you are putting more than yourself at risk. I'm 45 years old (not married & no kids), and can't do what is physically needed to be Mr. Muskie God guide. If I wanted to make a quick $ in the sales world, I would be selling semi-rusted out Ford Aerostars in questionable neighborhoods instead of hawking Bobbie Baits to Quickie Marts. If you are young without any of the aforementioned sea anchors of life, are your parents loaded? There are quite a few of the current Muskie gods that have come from VERY well to do families, or got GREAT stock tips (not hair style tips) that have allowed them to be where they are today. Am I jealous, He!! yes!! It takes $ to make $, unless you are incredibly lucky/intelligent. Making it "BIG" financially in the muskie world is about equivalent to succeeding in the collecting, and then possible amplified sales profit on small green plastic Army Soldiers! Good Luck!
Edited by Clark A 10/30/2007 8:55 PM
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Clark,
That is about the funniest post of 2007.
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| I agree with Steve, I'm still laughing @ "The ex-wonder wife"................... |
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Location: lansing, il | musky fishing is such a small portion of the fishing industry it would be hard to make a living doing anything only musky related. careful what you choose. just because you are doing somthing related to fishing or musky fishing doesnt mean it wont keep you from being able to go fishing when the time comes if you are sucessful at it. thus your back to square 1, too busy working to take off and go fishing! |
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