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hoss15
Posted 9/13/2007 12:11 PM (#274694)
Subject: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 11


Location: Blaine, MN
Why do people go through the trouble of blocking out the background in their photos? Are their spots really super secrets. it makes me wonder what they would do if they were fishing and someone saw them catch one on that spot, would they go "men in black " on them and delete their memory with the little pen thingy. not sure why this is bothering me but...Ahh, its slow at work today....

Bryon Haro
Madmanmusky
Posted 9/13/2007 12:13 PM (#274695 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 344


Location: Musky Country
I was wondering the same thing myself?
jlong
Posted 9/13/2007 12:17 PM (#274696 - in reply to #274695)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 1938


Location: Black Creek, WI
I often wonder that too.

If someone can recognize that spot due to the background... they probably already know its a good spot... and are at least already fishing the same water.

If the water itself is an untapped fishery and it has some blatantly obvious landmarks..... then I guess I can understand the motive.

To each their own I guess....
Slamr
Posted 9/13/2007 12:19 PM (#274698 - in reply to #274696)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 7084


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
BECAUSE IF YOU SHOW WHERE YOU FISHED.....EVERYONE WHO HAS A MUSKIE ROD WILL CHANGE ALL THEIR PLANS, FIND A WAY TO CLEAR THEIR SCHEDULE, AND GO TO THAT LAKE, THAT SPOT, AND TRY TO CATCH THAT FISH (again)!!!!
jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 12:21 PM (#274699 - in reply to #274695)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


I don't go through the trouble, I just quit posting pictures for the most part, and if I do decide to post a picture, I will block the background.. The waters I fish are heavily pressures, and people do try to figure out exactly where you caught a fish and show up at that spot.. I can see a great musky spot from the front of my cabin, and the spot normally has 3-4 boats on it on a Friday night.. During the week a couple weeks ago, someone posted a picture of a big fish, and you could tell by the background, exactly where that fish was caught.. That coming Friday there was 14 boats on that spot.. I'll bet half of those boats where their because of the picture on the internet..
Joe_Fisherman
Posted 9/13/2007 12:21 PM (#274700 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


Because they are not smart enough to pay attention to the background when they take the orginal picture?

I know I would never block out backgrounds. Waste of time. You want to fish my spots feel free, you still have to catch the fish. And if you do catch a fish I hope it's your fish of lifetime. Good for you!


jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 12:23 PM (#274701 - in reply to #274699)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


By the way, if you believe that only one musky hangs out on one piece of structure, you are VERY wrong.. Normally on the lake I fish, if you catch one fish, you can expect many other fish on the same structure, sorry, but I don't like to give up my fish to others....
jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 12:26 PM (#274702 - in reply to #274701)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


"Because they are not smart enough to pay attention to the background when they take the orginal picture?"

Sorry, my only concern when I have a fish in the net is to get a photo, measurement VERY quickly and get that fish back in the water to swim away... I will fix the background later on my computer... I will not pick fish up and carry them around the boat to make sure the background is correct... I want the least amount of stress put on the fish possible..It Aint because im a so stupid i a kan't figure thiangs outa..
Slamr
Posted 9/13/2007 12:29 PM (#274703 - in reply to #274700)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 7084


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I don't like to give up my fish to others....

*how is it you go about distinguising YOUR fish, from someone else's fish?

If I catch a fish in Canada, is that my fish....or only on my "home waters"? If I catch an undersized fish, is that still my fish? And if that is my fish, then is it my fish for all of time, or just for like a season, or a week, or a month?
sworrall
Posted 9/13/2007 12:33 PM (#274704 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
As I have paraphrased a few times, Crocodile Dundee said something like:
"It's like fleas arguing over who owns the dog they are on."

I give up spots all the time, even mark maps regularly for guys I don't know. So I sure wouldn't take a background out around a fish. That's just me, I guess...

I frequently set the background by having the netman (me lotsa times...hehehe) moving the boat the way I want it while the fish is in the net. I'm more worried about a good picture than the background.
ghoti
Posted 9/13/2007 12:34 PM (#274705 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 1286


Location: Stevens Point, Wi.
MY fish - MY spot - MY lake WOW!!!
tomcat
Posted 9/13/2007 12:34 PM (#274706 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 743


why do people block out the background when the post pics online?
1. they want the ego stroke of someone telling them "good job on catching a fish"
2. But they dont want to ruin or make thier spot worse by adding 200 times the pressure it's use to handling..

3. They caught caught the fish w/ a someone who told them "if you post the picture, you have to delete the background"..

so..best of both worlds.
jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 12:47 PM (#274711 - in reply to #274706)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?



If you are only concerned with looking at fish that people have caught, why do you really care if they cut out the background?

Edited by jclymer 9/13/2007 3:57 PM
BNelson
Posted 9/13/2007 12:53 PM (#274716 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Location: Contrarian Island
to each their own....post pics, don't post pics, post reports, don't post reports..block out backgrounds or don't...we all have different opinions and attitudes towards the areas, lakes, spots we fish and if you want to show a pic of a nice fish and block out the background...who are we to say that is wrong or right...
I do get a kick out of the pics of all the less than avg. fish I see some guys posting on this site with the backgrounds blocked out or cropped...I can just see the musky train following you around to those hotspots...funny stuff..


go fish.


Edited by MSKY HNR 9/14/2007 7:11 AM
esoxaddict
Posted 9/13/2007 12:55 PM (#274717 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 8828


I can see why, since there's a difference between not wanting anyone to know where you caught a fish and not wanting EVERYONE to know...

I think blacking out the background is pretty silly myself. How often are you taking the picture in the exact spot, facing the same direction you were when you caught the fish?

Like BN said -- you choose who and how to share information. If you post a picture on the internet, you have to realize that any number of people are going to see it, and a lot of them would go fish that spot if they could figure out where it was.

But the "my lake, my fish" stuff? Come on... Even if you own property on the lake it ends where the water starts.



Edited by esoxaddict 9/13/2007 1:01 PM
Magruter
Posted 9/13/2007 12:56 PM (#274718 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 1316


Location: Madison, WI
How about you have to use M1st moderators in order to block out the background if you're going to post on muskiefirst :P


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jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 12:59 PM (#274719 - in reply to #274716)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?


"sorry JClymer but just the first few sentences of the above post you are doing a bit of grandstanding...imo. "

That is fine if you think I was "grandstanding", however, I was trying to make a point to Tomcat, that people do not block out background, because they are looking for a ego stroke...
People block out background because of the people on the internet who need to zoom in and locate spots they can not figure out on their own.. I am sorry, but I do not want to share that information with you, for the same reasons that I will probably not catch a big fish and come on here with on GPS coordinates and let the entire world know where this fish was caught, doesn't make much sense...
sworrall
Posted 9/13/2007 12:59 PM (#274720 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Ugliest fish picture on the web.
I know that lake....I can tell from the reflection on the water.

Just take the picture in low res, and if one zooms in, one just gets pixels the size of Slamr's visor.
Slamr
Posted 9/13/2007 1:08 PM (#274723 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 7084


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I'd just like to say for the record, I am the only moderator with hair. Now get off my lake! You're coming near to MY FISH!
sworrall
Posted 9/13/2007 1:10 PM (#274724 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 32926


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Your lake maybe, but my, rock..always a fish there.


sorry, inside joke.
Slamr
Posted 9/13/2007 1:10 PM (#274725 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 7084


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Your rock, and you're jealous of my full head of hair.
Troyz.
Posted 9/13/2007 2:34 PM (#274735 - in reply to #274725)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 734


Location: Watertown, MN
Learned the Lesson several years ago, in the PMTT Champ on Tonka, our first fish we caught, we had spun and put an object in the background on the pic, needless to say the they were several people snooping around there they next day. The best part was the we had drift away from were we had caught the fish, and it kind of miss lead the people about the location. Two day later a friend was fishing the spot, and guy on the dock asked him if some had seen a monster there. He had never seen so many people fishing there before. It didn't take long for people to check out the pics and start investigating the spots.

Troyz
esoxsmd
Posted 9/13/2007 3:50 PM (#274743 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 317


Location: Grafton, WI
You can all have my spot, just not my fish....



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Justin
Posted 9/13/2007 4:05 PM (#274749 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


...Ahh, its slow at work today....

Lets go fishing....
ESOXER
Posted 9/13/2007 4:19 PM (#274754 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 232


Location: Sun Prairie, WI
The lakes and fish and for that matter all game belong to the public. If you are so vain and paranoid that you have to block out the background of your pictures, I feel a true sportsman helps his fellow man in his pursuit of fish or game.

There are NO secret locations, only those who think there are.



Musky53
Posted 9/13/2007 4:44 PM (#274757 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: Re: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 255


If you block out the backgrounds then I won't know where to fish for muskies!! LOL!!!!!
musky-skunk
Posted 9/13/2007 4:45 PM (#274758 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 785


Blocking out the fish and person... THATS COMICAL MAN!!! Here's the spot but you'll never know if its a 25 lb musky or a 25 lb carp! HAHA. I feel if you really don't want anyone seeing the picture (spot) than keep the whole thing a secret. Otherwise thats a chance you take in sharing your accomplishments. Unless your on Mille Lacs, then you just shoot towards open water lol
tfootstalker
Posted 9/13/2007 4:54 PM (#274762 - in reply to #274754)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?





Posts: 299


Location: Nowheresville, MN
The real hilarity here and in other posts when this topic comes up is you guys that think sharing information and the resulting increased pressure doesn't affect fishing. Heck, I could go fish Kentuck lake right now and fish productive spots without ever looking at a map. All I'd have to do is print out the thread from a few weeks ago and drive to the lake. It never ceases to amaze me. You will also see a theme in these information spewing posts: the people that post info on them don't fish the lakes all that often and make trips every now and then.

"Hey, we're in N. WI and not catching anything, what should we do?" "Well, I saw on the internet they are pounding them on George and the Moen, lets go there."

Yeah it's public water, but there's only so many cookies in the jar.

Edited by tfootstalker 9/13/2007 5:03 PM
jclymer
Posted 9/13/2007 4:55 PM (#274763 - in reply to #274758)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?


So a "true" sportsman that hunts deer on public land, would scout the land, find the movement of big deer, put all the hard work and effort behind completeing the task of bagging a huge buck and than jump right on the internet and make sure that everyone know where they bagged that deer? Of course not....

If being a "wimp" is blocking background or not sharing pictures at all, I guess I am a wimp... I work too hard to let the whole world know where, what and when....

By the way, when I said "my lake and my fish" things were taken out of context... My home waters and my fish that I have work very hard to pattern and locate...

One last note, this is an internet site, with people that sit behind a computer and shoot out opinions, I think I can handle "Your truth." Did you think you would ruin someones day with your almighty opinion?
MuskyFeverMN
Posted 9/13/2007 5:33 PM (#274767 - in reply to #274694)
Subject: RE: Why block out picture backgrounds?




Posts: 51


Location: Aitkin, Blaine, Minnesota
This is funny. I hate Lake X/ blacked out photos because I think there are a lot of visitors to this site that believe every big fish must come from Mille Lacs. When in doubt, probably Mille Lacs. I dont own Mille Lacs, Just 100' feet shoreline on the North End. I get to see the muskie parade every weekend. I would like to see some of the other awesome fisheries get some press so maybe I could fish my own home waters with only ten boats around me instead of twenty ( a man can dream. . .).

Show me a pic of a mille lacs fish and I can at least tell North/ South/ East /West. Thats enough to add afew extra boats to the musky spots.

I am just happy Ronnestrand and Hammernick dont post any pics. Everyone would think Mille Lacs Muskies were as easy to catch as bluegills (40 lb gills).
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