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Message Subject: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?
boelrich2
Posted 7/17/2007 2:06 PM (#265717)
Subject: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 40


Location: Rhinelander, Wi
Just curious as to what the difference might be between a Weagle and a Giant Jackpot. It seems that alot of people on here throw a weagle.


Bill
guts
Posted 7/17/2007 2:11 PM (#265721 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 556


a weagle makes more noise in the water than a jackpot and is spossed to hook up better
sworrall
Posted 7/17/2007 2:13 PM (#265723 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The Weagle runs lower in the water and makes a completely different sound. I can work a Weagle faster and keep it in the water, and it SEEMS I get more hook ups.
Magruter
Posted 7/17/2007 2:20 PM (#265724 - in reply to #265723)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 1316


Location: Madison, WI
Weagle 3 hooks, jackpot 2. A weagle is more versatile to how I like to work WTD baits. Fast or slow, seems like the jackpot only likes slow...
Steve Jonesi
Posted 7/17/2007 2:20 PM (#265725 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




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The Weagle moves horizontal in the water (notice screw eye placement) while the JJ is what I call a "head bobber". Many WTD baits are this style, which makes the Beagle a bit different.It was designed to run lower in the water as well.Both are great baits . Steve
THA4
Posted 7/17/2007 2:28 PM (#265727 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 468


Location: Not where I wanna be!
all i know is i love my weagle....but have yet to get a fish on it.
i own a few jackpots, and havent caught a fish on those either......but....
if i had to choose id pick the weagle, because it does make more noise and i can cast that sucker a football field.....or so..
esoxaddict
Posted 7/17/2007 2:34 PM (#265729 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





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Weagle: Hand made and painted by Muskie Mojo Tackle, owners of which frequent this site
Jackpot: Made by Yakima Bait company, owners of which are ????????

Weagle: Original Manufacturer: Nutty fad kid who everyone seemed to like
Jackpot: Original manufacturer: Uhhh Poe?

Weagle: *Swoosh!*
Jackpot: not so much

Weagle: "WEAGLE BABY!!"
Jackpot: no catchy slogan to yell when you catch a fish on one

Weagle: Fish can knock it a foot in the air
Jackpot: Fish can knock it into orbit

Weagle: Same name as dog breed; Weimeraner/Beagle mix
Jackpot: Same name as large payout on slot machine

Weagle: Made of genuine American hardwood
Jackpot: Made of wood



IAJustin
Posted 7/17/2007 3:43 PM (#265754 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 2015


If there is slight to moderate chop on the water - I will always pick a weagle for WTD bait (they have put more fish in the net) But for tough conditions on a dead flat calm day I like a jackpot - and if you can say GO Hawkeyes!!! before setting the hook after a strike you miss far less fish!
Believer
Posted 7/17/2007 3:47 PM (#265755 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 39


Jackpot sits up higher and doesnt hook as many fish (since it tends to get blown away from the fish when they rise to it) You might want to try a Homewrecker from Reaction Strike as well...
Dan Urbas
Posted 7/17/2007 3:50 PM (#265757 - in reply to #265729)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 66


Location: Minnesota
Essoxaddict, now that's a good post!

I have seen my weagle go 6 feet airborn before in her mouth.

Jackpots are only good in flat calm conditions.

Dan
www.bookemsmuskyshop.com


Edited by Dan Urbas 7/17/2007 3:52 PM
Musky_Joe
Posted 7/17/2007 4:00 PM (#265759 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 38


I always used to use jackpots. This year i got a weagle and its pretty good. I sure caught a lot more fish on jackpots tho. Jackpots are a lot less money too. Take the 15 dollar difference and buy another bait. ha.

personally i like the phat boys the best.

Joe
pgaschulz
Posted 7/17/2007 8:47 PM (#265812 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 561


Location: Monee, Illinois
Weagle catchs fish, Jackpots catch fish any questions
sworrall
Posted 7/17/2007 10:29 PM (#265826 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
The Weagle accounted for both Lake George fish tonight during Rhinelander League. I got a 35.5, and another team got a 41.5. I saw 8 other fish, lots of action! I have a few jackpots still, use them when it's dead calm. I also would comment on the fact I can work a Weagle in NASTY slop, which I cannot do with most other WTD baits.
reelman
Posted 7/17/2007 10:36 PM (#265829 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




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My take is that the Weagle sits lower in the water and needs to be worked slower than the GJ. Weagles also seem to have more of a dendency of going below water if worked to fast. Neither of these are bad thing, in fact they can be a benefit at times. Moral of the story - get a couple of each!
THA4
Posted 7/18/2007 11:47 AM (#265916 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 468


Location: Not where I wanna be!
cant have too many musky baits.....
lonetree
Posted 7/19/2007 12:40 PM (#266110 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 42


Location: Prairie du Sac, Wisconsin
thanks to you guys my wallet just got a bit lighter & rollie & helens bank account got fatter. from all of the posts had to get a weagle before we left for canada next week. hope it is as good for me as it has been for all of you. i have always been a jackpot guy, so we'll see if i am a convert too.
Valleye
Posted 7/19/2007 9:56 PM (#266196 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?




Posts: 19


Location: Lake County, IL
Weagles wobble but they don't fall down! They worked nicely in Canada. Funny thing was catching a 12 inch "skinny" pike
peagle
Posted 7/20/2007 9:04 PM (#266374 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?


weagle is a pure joke,way 2 overexposed,for the fish they caught
sworrall
Posted 7/20/2007 9:25 PM (#266376 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
And someone from (hmm, I just can't figure out who...) Eastern Canada knows all about the Weagle and the big fish caught on them?

The Weagle scored another Muskie for me today. It's a good lure. peagle, I suggest you buy a Bobbie, that is a great lure too.
Phish Killer
Posted 7/20/2007 9:26 PM (#266377 - in reply to #266374)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 827


Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota
peagle - 7/20/2007 9:04 PM

weagle is a pure joke,way 2 overexposed,for the fish they caught


Now there is a smart guy for sure Yeah buddy you're right that bait sucked...never caught anything. loser.
peagle
Posted 7/21/2007 6:55 AM (#266399 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?


lot of lure can caught 30 inch fish,you just caught it because the fish are hungry.are you trying to thold us your fish grab it because it was a stupid weagle?skywalker,doc,jackpot also score some 30 inch fish,not less not more than a weagle.why not a satisfier?price is better,color awesome.

thats just a exposure question,same thing for the pacemaker,everybody throw them,but why everytime i troll them whit some teasertsails on the side,more than 3/4 of the time the teaser score?thats just because musky dont NECESSARIALY bite ''hot'' lure.

btw mojo is a mf member and you probably get some free weagle no???so stay fair!!!!
sworrall
Posted 7/21/2007 2:04 PM (#266429 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 32886


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
What is a MF 'member'? Let's see, there are about 3500 of those. No, I buy my lures mostly, though Baldy HAS given Sue a lure or two. I AM being 'fair', and honest. You, on the other hand, are bing rude and unnecessarily critical of a proven big fish topwater lure.

YES, there are times the Weagle really shines over the other walk the dog topwaters I own. I think it's because it is way heavier, rides lower, and makes WAY more noise. I can work it faster and keep it in the water, or do the 'death march' with it and still keep the glide distance tight. Which 30" muskie you talking about? I haven't caught a 30" fish in months. What is a 'satisfier'? Never have seen one. Should I make a rude, unsolicited, mean spirited comment about that lure? Nope.

Everybody throws a Pacemaker? Really? I live where that bait is most popular, and don't see 'everybody' fishing them. Ty is a great guy, the lure catches fish, and that's nice, but what does that have to do with the Weagle?
Muskie Treats
Posted 7/21/2007 9:58 PM (#266458 - in reply to #266399)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Peagle, PK is the "original" Weagle baby. History: Cady and I used to be in business together in the early days of Musky Nut when we made the Wabull. One day while PK and I were fishing Iowa together on one windy April morning, he picked up the Weagle prototype (after I took it off one of my rods because it was "too windy") and proceeded to have a 4 fish day in my dirty water. I threw every WTD topwater I had in the boat and didn't get a sniff while fishing first. He also was the only person to catch a fish out of our group of 4 boats.

Throughout that first summer we experimented with other WTD topwaters being fished 1st-3rd in the boat. Funny how the "overhyped" Weagle caught over 5-1 over the Jackpots, Vipers, HR's and anything else we could find. There is something special to that bait, I don't know if it's profile or sound (I think sound) but there is something to it.

As to the guy that says to buy 2 Jackpots, the problem with that is that 2 Jackpots will still fall apart WAY before a Weagle will. You also don't have to replace any hardware or be afraid of the screw-eyes pulling out of the Weagle either.

Pictured is one of PK's 4 fish he caught that day. I'm holding it because I had to hand land it and it was too feisty to hand it off without putting it on the floor. This one was one of those "tiny" fish you were talking about...

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sworrall
Posted 7/21/2007 11:53 PM (#266469 - in reply to #266458)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Thanks for the history behind a very well made lure.
pamuskyhunter
Posted 7/22/2007 11:39 AM (#266492 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 613


Location: big cove tannery pa
What color would you buy if you had just enough money too buy one weagle? I have a few jackpots and i hate them,they dont ride very low in the water and doesnt throw up much water either.
MuskieMike
Posted 7/22/2007 1:18 PM (#266498 - in reply to #266492)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Location: Des Moines IA
if you can have only one, get all black ..................
peagle
Posted 7/22/2007 7:19 PM (#266533 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?


i like this one http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y277/muskyruss/2007MuskingLures/20...
Guest
Posted 7/22/2007 8:06 PM (#266538 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?


what about the doc? That is a great lure.
Guest
Posted 7/23/2007 8:27 AM (#266580 - in reply to #266458)
Subject: RE: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?


Muskie Treats - 7/21/2007 9:58 PM

Peagle, PK is the "original" Weagle baby. History: Cady and I used to be in business together in the early days of Musky Nut when we made the Wabull. One day while PK and I were fishing Iowa together on one windy April morning, he picked up the Weagle prototype (after I took it off one of my rods because it was "too windy") and proceeded to have a 4 fish day in my dirty water. I threw every WTD topwater I had in the boat and didn't get a sniff while fishing first. He also was the only person to catch a fish out of our group of 4 boats.

Throughout that first summer we experimented with other WTD topwaters being fished 1st-3rd in the boat. Funny how the "overhyped" Weagle caught over 5-1 over the Jackpots, Vipers, HR's and anything else we could find. There is something special to that bait, I don't know if it's profile or sound (I think sound) but there is something to it.

As to the guy that says to buy 2 Jackpots, the problem with that is that 2 Jackpots will still fall apart WAY before a Weagle will. You also don't have to replace any hardware or be afraid of the screw-eyes pulling out of the Weagle either.

Pictured is one of PK's 4 fish he caught that day. I'm holding it because I had to hand land it and it was too feisty to hand it off without putting it on the floor. This one was one of those "tiny" fish you were talking about...


this video speak for itself http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8907011895104614769&hl=en
Muskie Treats
Posted 7/23/2007 8:44 AM (#266586 - in reply to #265717)
Subject: Re: Weagle Vs. Giant Jackpot?





Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
I LOVE that video. I love it even more because I'm pretty sure I know the SPOT. Trust me that I don't think a Weagle's probably ever been thrown on that lake...that is until this August when I'm up there.

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