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Location: Frankfort, IL | I spent an extremely short one day fishing Lake Vermillion with my brother and 14 yr old nephew (sister's kid) and had to return home for personal reasons. My nephew was using one of my rods while I was there as he was having trouble with my brother's setups (new to musky fishing), so I let him use it for the rest of the week while I returned back home to Chicago.
I received a phone call today that my new St. Croix Tournament Legend Rod / Shimano Curado 300DSV now resides somewhere in the depths of Lake Vermillion 
I wonder if it would stand up in court if he didn't make it to his 15th birthday? LOL!
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Location: Sandusky, OH | If you got a judge that fishes, you're in the clear.
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| Is he a good swimmer? |
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| He is a kid and thats what kids do. However make him get a summer job and pay you back. You will teach him some responsibility!!! |
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| As a father I would have never let him make that call. I would have had him buy you a new combo and explain it to you when he gave it to you. |
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Location: Oregon | Yep what stu said......actually I think his parents should pay for it and then ask him to pay them back. I know I would feel obligated to replace it if my boy lost it.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I bet your nephew feels pretty bad about losing the rod, right? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | those are the tough life lessons that are pretty important to teach, but teach with an understanding of what the kid is going through and his feelings (i agree with steve) ... bottom line though is that you left the rod with a 14 year old knowing he was going to use it ... you know the risk, it played out and it's your own dam fault LOL ... and if it was my kid and you posted on a public forum even tongue in cheek "justifiable homicide" ... i guess i'd teach you some lessons too.
love me or hate me, but just the post and the wording is bad form when it relates to kids ... but then i've only got 4 of them, so what the heck do i know
Edited by jonnysled 7/13/2007 8:35 PM
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Location: Frankfort, IL | Completely 100% a joke on my part (the wording), not the best choice. I have discussed it with his mother and will support any decision she makes (from full reimbursement down to nothing). After all it is not my child and he should be raised (disciplined) as she feels fit whether I agree with it or not. I spoke to my brother and the poor kid was terrified to make the phone call. Unfortunately, his mother has been divorced on two occasions and he is having difficulty adjusting during these crucial "development" years.
In the end, we will all laugh about this in years to come.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Yessir, you will, I have several outfits that hit the water in the hands of my kids and relatives, friends, etc. |
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Location: NEW LENOX IL | Good excuse to go back to Vermillion and cast for a week or two and try to hook it up off the bottom. Might even get lucky an snag a fish or two!!
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| where did he loose it? which bay, reef, island ect. LOL |
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Location: minneapolis | Intent is the real issue here. If the kid had some sort of anger moment and intentionally tossed the gear in the lake- that is a situation where the lesson is learned that every action has a result-in this case- pay for your actions. If the kid accidently lost his grip and the gear went overboard- that is a different situation. We all know the possibility exists that our favorite lure, rod, whatever- has a chance of being lost when we allow someone to use our stuff. If that was the case here- personally I'd rather have a 14 year old kid losing my gear accidently- than being the type of 14 year old breaking into my house and stealing alot more than a rod and reel ! And there's plenty of 14 year olds doing that and alot worse these days. Sounds like the kid's life has had a rough go the last few years. - Go easy on him- Once you get too old to take yourself fishing- he might remember this and be the only person willing to take you fishing 
Edited by esoxlady 7/14/2007 10:54 AM
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| hey if the kid was man enough to make the phone call to his uncle and explaine what happened, commend him on his honesty and don't go hard on him. |
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Location: ohio | i'm glad you worked it out, maybe you should take him out again as soon as possible, they way he feels now, he probably wont ever want to fish again. |
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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | I would be happy to lose one of my dads or uncles combos, if they were still alive to hand it to me.
Take the kid fishing asap and further more buy him his own combo, something he can cherish as his own. |
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Location: Hugo, MN | ESOXER had a great point. Go to Bass Pro Shops website and buy the kid his own Pete Maina combo. I'd be willing to bet, if he's a good kid, he'll never lose that thing. |
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| If my daughter did that, I would just forget about it and let her know that it was just an accident and to be more careful.
If it was my ex-wife, she'd still be free diving until she came up with it. |
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Location: Not where I wanna be! | stuff like that happens...
my brother lost one of my dads rods in canada years ago.
the folloing day, my dad insisted on finding it, so he put a big ol musky killer on and slow rollled it on the bottom where the rod should be.....
i dont have this kind of luck, but he found it....and still uses it to this day....
thats my dad for ya.....
crap happens, no need to make the kid feel worse than he already does....
im sure it will get righted some day!!! |
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| Bottom line is somebody else's kid lost something of yours that cost several hundred dollars. It's a lot of money. I would expect to have it replaced. 14 is old enough to take responsibility for something you borrowed from someone else. Granted, you can't expect a 14 year old to have $500 laying around. Should be up to him and his mother how to work that part out. I wouldn't be mad about it -- as others have said, stuff happens. Gotta give the kid credit for being man enough to cop to it. My advice: Take him fishing. Let him and his mother know you expect to have your rod replaced. My guess is you'll never see the money, and you'll have years of "don't toss that in the lake now" jokes to look forward to. |
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Location: Palos Hills IL / Conover WS | I hate to say it but. But you let your nephew use the rod. You are the person respoonsible for that. I would not try to get it replaced. Don't forget its your family. Family first. Now if its a friends child that is another story. But in this case just consider that a lesson that hopefully you will both learn from. But i would not try to get reimbursed from my family...
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| 1. I would be mad that your sister didnt immediately replace this gear. I think its bad that she would even let you be in the position where you would have to go after the kid for the money (as she should be the one to pay and then collect from your nephew)
2. I would definitely want the 5 bills for the rig
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Location: Elk River, MN | I agree with a lot of posts - I bet a 14 year old probably would not know (understand) the difference between a $100 combo versus a $500 combo. It's definitely unfortunate that this happened to you and the 14 year old.
I remember when I was 14 I was driving my Dad's truck (with permission) and backed into a tree; damaged the drivers mirror and door. I didn't have the money to fix it.....but lesson of being more careful was learned.
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| I don't get this mentality where letting someone use something = taking the risk that something might happen to it and it will be your loss. Shouldn't it be the other way around?
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| I am with EA on this, the dude is 14, not 6. There is this new word called "responsibility" that he is going to have to get used to, what better time to start. |
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| this is the reason my roomate doesn't use my legend tournament when we fish. of course, replacing it wouldn't be as big a deal for him as a 14 year old.
i know for sure if i did the same thing to a family member, there is no WAY my mother would let me get away without replacing it. heck, i lost HER 7 iron in a lake when i was like 12 (or younger i don't remember) and i had to replace it. i don't remember how i got money besides mowing lawns, but i had to do it. |
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| MY WIFE THEW ONE OVER A FEW YEARS BACK. I SAW A NICE FISH SUFACE AND TOLD HER TO HUURY AND MAKE A CAST OVER THERE. SHE FORGOT TO PUSH THE BUTTON AND OVER IT WENT. I SPENT THREE OR FOUR CAST TRYING TO HOOK IT AND TOLD SOME FRIENDS THAT WERE IN THE AREA ABOUT IT. I THEN HANDED HER ANOTHER ROD AND REEL AND WE WERE OFF TO ANOTHER SPOT. SHE WHITE KNUCKELED IT FOR THE REST OF THE NIGHT. THE NEXT MORNING THE FRIENDS I TOLD ABOUT CAME PULLING UP WITH IT. THEY WENT SNORKELING FOR IT. FOUND IT ON THE FIRST PASS. I MADE HER A SAFTEY ROPE FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON. NOW SHE IS FINE CASTING JUST AS I DO.
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Location: Minnetonka , MN. | It's all part of the game . I second the idea of getting him his own combo. |
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Location: Algonquin, ILL | POOP HAPPENS 
It's all part of the learning curve for both of you
I'm sure he now knows how to hold on better
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You know not to let a novice use your New equipment
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| Wow. Give the kid a break. 14 years old and some of you folks are gonna make him feel even worse about his mistake? If this was my nephew, and I knew he was remorseful and felt bad about it already, I'd immediately do as others suggested and buy him a new rod/reel combo for himself.
Many very imporant lessons taught to the kid by doing this: 1. Forgiveness. 2. Unconditional love for your family members, and least important, 3. Bad stuff happens while fishing and it shouldn't ruin the overall experience.
The kid is 14 and will have many, many future lessons on responsibility. How often do you get a opportune time to truly teach the kid forgiveness and truly show the kid how much you care about him? |
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