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Location: Iowa | Anybody know much about these as far a price, performance, etc...compared the the 618, 619, etc...
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| I looked into both..the 1760 loaded is in the low 30s....1860, high 30's...the 1760 is only rated at 115 and almost weighs as much as a 619...seems a 115 is wayyyyy underpowered for that rig... |
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| sorry it is rated for 130...but nobody makes a 130... |
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Location: Mayer, MN | Found this on the internet, take it for what it is worth:
1760 Angler
LOA: 17'6"
Beam: 7'11"
Weight: 1,775 lbs.
Fuel: 28 gal.
Base Price: $26,615
(w/115-hp Yamaha)
Maximum HP: 130
1860 Angler
LOA: 18'6"
Beam: 8'2"
Weight: 1,790 lbs.
Fuel: 38 gal.
Base Price: $32,020
(w/150-hp Yamaha)
Maximum HP: 175
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| yah looks about right..load up the 1760 and you are gonna be low 30's with trolling motor, electronics and all the extras...i had the 1860 priced w/ a 175...so that would be right there too
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| Honda makes a 130, I believe. |
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| nope, incorrect.
135. |
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| I ordered an Angler 1760. Fits in my garage. Always wanted a Ranger. By the time I loaded it up, I was at $35K but I added just about every option availalble inlcuding a kicker. I would have liked to have been able to have a 135 or 150 rather than the 115hp motor. I'm expecting to get it in April.
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| It'll be a good boat with a top speed of 40 mph. It's not a 619. I would have jumped at the change to buy a 619 if it only fit in my garage.
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| I saw two of them yesterday at Crystal Pierz in Rice Lake. I have a friend with a 620 that wants to downsize and I stopped on his behalf.
Nice looking boats, they appear to be built on the Reatta hull. Reatta's have had pretty good reveiws and from the one's I've seen on the water perform nicely.
They come rigged with the standard Ranger features. (Included in sale price) Minn-Kota Maxxum or Power Drive trolling motor, cover for trailering or storage, spare tire for trailer, basic lcd sonars at the consol and on the bow.
Rod storage and other storage looks nice.
Price without adding kicker is as stated earlier 1760's are around $27k depending on motor brand and the 1860 is just a little higher than that.
For most people upgrading the sonar would be about the only thing that should add extra cost unless you wanted a kicker. But unless you troll A LOT it's not necessary with today's motors.
Compared to the 600 series... For most recreational fisherman I suspect the Angler series will be a good fit. Nice storage, ample room on the floor, nice livewell for suckers, walleyes, panfish, and a price that is much more reachable for most of us. The 600 series are at least $14,000 higher than the angler series.
One other feature I noticed on both Angler models that is very user friendly to us musky anglers. The pedistal bases on the rear deck are "offset". Instead of putting just one in the middle, they have two of them offset. This will allow the angler to comfortably fish leaning/sitting and still be able to complete your cast ( 8 or L turn) without having to get up every time. This is something that I have modified on all of my boats, finally, it's nice to see a manufacturer that does this from the factory.
For the money, this will be a hard boat to beat. Ranger features/quality/value and a very nice layout on a working-man's budget. Suspect they will be selling quite a few of these. |
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Location: Central Iowa | I noticed the rod lockers are only 7'-6" and with so many people using 8' or longer rods this kind of poses a problem in my mind, its a minor detail but would keep me from buying one. |
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| It's a modified Fish N Ski type boat. I'd be interested to see how it handles big water. Not a Deep V design, it looks like it'd ride pretty rough. |
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| The top row of the rod locker on the 1860 takes 8' rods. As far as the ride this is the same hull as the reatta. Do a search on walleyecentral.com, lot's of guys running this hull on some pretty big walleye water and it's getting good reviews for it's ride. Is it a 620? No. But it will get you anywhere that you'd be willing to stand up and muskie fish. Walleye guys will sit down and pull boards in rough stuff, they're not standing up and working a reef hawg. I don't think you're gonna miss many muskie fishing opportunities w/ this hull, and I plan on owning one soon. |
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| You don't do much walleye fishing, huh? Silly statement to say that eye guys only sit and troll in the rough water.
First of all, there are not LOTS of guys running this boat. The 1750 and 1850 Reatta were just introduced a little over a year ago, and the Angler series just last fall. Certainly, not lots of them on the water yet. This boat will ride about between a Bassboat and a DeepV in the big waters. I wouldn't want to be jigging the reefs on Bago in it when she's riled up. How about Vermillion, or Mille Lacs? Not me. |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | When this Angler series hits the water in force this Spring, we will see how they perform. Sheps point is well taken that walleye anglers have to work the entire boat during rough conditions too.
I'm pretty sure this series was designed to meet the needs of a different class of anglers than the Fisherman series was. If you want big water best performance for a Ranger, buy a 619, 620, or 621. If you need a boat that can handle fairly rough conditions, carries less power, yet is a well built boat with the R on the side, the Angler 1760 or 1860 MIGHT be the boat for you.
Discuss the features and benefits of the boats, the performance and ride, how they fish, etc, no worries. That's what the Boats and Motors board is for. It's perfectly OK to disagree, but go personal, and your post is dust. |
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Location: WI - Land of small muskies and big jawbones | sworrall - 2/16/2007 2:43 PM
It's perfectly OK to disagree, but go personal, and your post is dust.
Well personally, I do prefer to have the "R" on the side of my boat. |
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Location: Iowa | As opposed to what a T, a G, an A, an L, a C, a P, how about the whole alphabet for the matter...what does the R have to do with anything other than the first letter of the company...personally I would rather have an "R" than any other letter on the side of my boat...but that is just me...but sometimes people can't afford it and they settle for something that just works for them...why does the ranger have to be the best boat...to someone eles it might be a bad boat...sure by the industries standards, rangers are some of the best but someone else might like a crestliner, lund, lowe, g3, patriot, alumacraft, tuffy, warrior better because it fits their needs better than another one...because it fits there liking better than another one...personally for me all I am looking for is something that floats, is in good condition, has adequate storage and can fish 2 people confortably while at the same time not feeling helpless if you get into a sticky situation on big water...the name doesn't matter that much to me because the boat I find will work for me...and you know what...it will be my boat not yours...
Big Perc
Edited by Big Perc 2/16/2007 3:47 PM
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Location: Iowa | I see how the Reatta compares to the Angler now...very similar with subtle differences though...
Big Perc
Edited by Big Perc 2/16/2007 3:46 PM
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Location: Minneconia | Matt,
Save your money and buy a used 619, I wish I would've instead of the 618.
I will say this, it sure is nice to have the company that makes the boats with the "R" on the side backing you when you need support, some other companies out there talk a big game but can't support their product. You'll always have piece of mind knowing you're running as they say the "best built best backed" boat out there. I've learned that first hand and won't own another brand again.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | I never even sort of insinuated that a Ranger is anything but a great boat, and that the Angler is a good option if you wanted a boat with an R on the side and couldn't afford a Fisherman series. What were the options before the Angler and reatta? There WERE none, if you wanted that Ranger. That's a problem with your cognitive dissidence??? Get over it.
For those who didn't get it, Slamr was talking to Lockjaw. They don't always get along, which is easy to understand. |
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Location: Bloomington, Illinois | I find all the emotion about boat brands really interesting...I don't get it...Of course I don't get the emotion about truck companies either...Why all the negativity? Why the little guy taking a leak on the truck logo not of your choice...Will we be seeing those stickers made for boats as well? I can understand liking your own boat and having good things to say about...but why tear down other makes? |
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| Hey Guys,
I saw one of these Angler series boats and really liked them. I've been thinking
about buying a boat for the last couple of years and haven't but the angler series
seems like a good boat. May have to wait to see what people have thought about
them over the summer. |
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| muskyme - 2/16/2007 7:38 PM
I find all the emotion about boat brands really interesting...I don't get it...Of course I don't get the emotion about truck companies either...Why all the negativity? Why the little guy taking a leak on the truck logo not of your choice...Will we be seeing those stickers made for boats as well? I can understand liking your own boat and having good things to say about...but why tear down other makes?
Because they have nothing better to do...
Been wondering the same thing as I read these threads. Is there a BS filter available for PCs? |
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| any updates on the Anglers as viable options? |
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Location: Onalaska, WI | Big Perc,
Check out my post under the 618 ranger thread. I just bought a 1860 this spring and I've shared some of my thoughts and experiences there. So far I am extremley happy with the new rig--some additonal good info. on this thread too (in between the jousting). It's good to gather input but in the end it really comes down to your needs, wants and what you're able/willing to spend.
contact me if you have any further/specific questions or if you want to coordinate a test ride or better yet a test fish!
Proverbs 12:14 "For lack of guidance a people falls; security lies in many counselors."
Edited by Mertot 6/12/2007 1:41 AM
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Location: Waukesha, WI | Mertot, I spent a fair amount of time looking at the 1860 Angler on Saturday. It looks like the two seat post bases on the rear deck are above the livewell. The lid is insulated on the livewell, but having two holes in it just doesn't make sense. The salesman said they can put rubber plugs in the bases, but I'm wondering what your experience has been regarding this. |
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| I have 1760 with 115 Yamaha, 8 hp Yamaha kicker, 108# Terrova, and hummnbird electronics. I really like my boat and it has every thing that I was looking for. Wish it was rated for a 135 or 150 though as it's not the fastest boat around.
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| Makes no sense why such a heavy / wide boat would be rated for 130 max...?
nice layout but could have a 150 on it just as easy |
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Location: Onalaska, WI | ESfishOx,
You are correct about the seat holes opening into the live well--as far as my experience with it goes we've never put a seat pedestal up there as my 15 year old son moves around from side to side casting off that back deck and so far he never seems to need a butt seat to lean against like his fat old Dad does! Since we've had the boat this spring we've had crappies and a few northerns in the well all alive and kicking upon our return home---would the openings be an issue in the heat in fish survival say douring a tourament or such? I don't know the answer to that one based on personal experience but i don't see it being a huge issue.
One other thought about the back deck area since we went with the 4 stroke motor there's no oil reservoir to worry about giving us an additional dry storage compartment in the back deck. |
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Location: Onalaska, WI | Guest,
I've copied my post from a different thread comparing a 618 vs a 619 as well as HP Ratings:
I purchased a 1860 angler this spring and so far I love it!
I found for me it was the "happy medium" between the 618 and the 619. If you compare the specs it's 6" longer than the 618vs, 13.5" wider beam and 4+" deeper cockpit. While it is a foot shorter than the 619 it is still 1/2" wider beam and deeper inside depth. While the 1860 is 225 lbs. lighter than the 619 it still has a "Total persons, motor, gear" rating of 1700 vs 1750 for the 619 and only 1375 for the 618 (unless you're talking tiller model which is a whole different deal for the 618T as Matt stated earlier).
If you're a "power hungry fastest boat kinda guy" they limit you to 175 max in the 1860; I believe this is a part Rangers' market segmentation strategy between the 600 series and the Angler series. If you want bigger faster HP they give you that option with te 600 series models; by limiting the HP maximums on the Anglers the maintain the other part of this segmentation strategy price tag--They're making a run at the aluminum guys that just wouldn't or couldn't pop for one of their 600's with the angler series.
Well, their approach worked on me! I powered with a Yamaha 150 4-stroke--she pops out of the hole like a dream and has so far reached 46 mph on gps with limited efforts/opportunities to run wide open for very long. Plenty of juice for my needs and so far doing me just fine without the expense of a kicker. I upgraded to the Terrova 80 lb. and have not yet experienced the roller issue mentioned above and a so far pleased with Minnkota's improvements here.
The rod locker is great and will hold six 8 footers on the top row and another half dozen 7' 6"ers on the bottom row. A couple less storage compartments than a 619 and a few less bells and whistles included in the package, however you can upgrade and add on and still be thousands of $$ less than a 619 or 618 for that matter.
I checked into Tuffys, Tritons ad several others but for my needs and budget the 1860 seems like it will work out great for my Muskie and multispecies needs.
At the end of the day it comes down to what YOU personally want, how and where you'll fish and how much you want to spend.
Whatever way you go I will say this; The attention to detail and Quality of Customer service from this company is as advertised and refreshing to experience in ANY Industry.
Oh--one more thing:
The RangerTrail Trailers--WOW!
Feel free to e-mail or pm me if you have any qtns. or want to go for a test ride (or a test fish--even better!)
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