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sworrall
Posted 2/3/2007 11:40 PM (#236215)
Subject: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Finally, this feels like northern Wisconsin Winter.
MuskyHopeful
Posted 2/4/2007 12:10 AM (#236218 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
Must be that pesky global warming.

Kevin

It's the cows.

esox50
Posted 2/4/2007 12:19 AM (#236219 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 2024


Just hit 0 degrees (no wind chill) here in Champaign, IL.

Long, cold walk to Assembly Hall, but well worth the numb face after watching the Illini hand it to Minnesota!!!!
UPMuskyr
Posted 2/4/2007 12:22 AM (#236220 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 160


Location: Carney, Mi (in da UP eh!)
-14 below zero with a windchill of -29 outside, papermachine I'm working on 105 deg's on top of coater tech dryers, just a little temp difference..Randy
Brad
Posted 2/4/2007 1:09 AM (#236223 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





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-22 with -44 windchill, it's time to put away the shorts!!!!
semper esox
Posted 2/4/2007 1:53 AM (#236226 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 217


Location: ladysmith, wi
and i have to help with a icefishing tourny tommorow, please spring hurry up
jonnysled
Posted 2/4/2007 2:51 AM (#236227 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 13688


Location: minocqua, wi.
hey ... somebody go start my diesel ... it's been sitting in the airport parking lot in rhinelander for 2 weeks ..... she's gonna be a peach to start when i get back!

woodieb8
Posted 2/4/2007 6:12 AM (#236231 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 1530


only 0 here and my diesels plugged in. boy will yours moan.
VMS
Posted 2/4/2007 6:41 AM (#236235 - in reply to #236231)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 3508


Location: Elk River, Minnesota
zero degrees?!!... BALMY.

-10 degrees... NIPPY

-15 with wind... A LITTLE RAW

-20 wind or not CHILLY

Below that it's all the same...Just cold. Down right cold.

Just think what it would have been like with more snow on the ground... I know northern MN would have been much lower if there was snow. Gotta wonder how many water mains are cracking with very little insulation on the ground..

Steve

FYGR8
Posted 2/4/2007 7:27 AM (#236238 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





-30.4 in Hayward this morn.Couch looks inviting again today!
sorenson
Posted 2/4/2007 8:47 AM (#236245 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 1764


Location: Ogden, Ut
Supposed to make it to 47 here today...
Ice fishing in T-shirts.
S.
fishguide
Posted 2/4/2007 9:25 AM (#236251 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




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Location: vermilion bay,ontario
-38 in vermilion bay,-47 with the wind chill,think i will stay home today and tune into the super bowl.looks like about another 3 days of this stuff.
Pointerpride102
Posted 2/4/2007 9:30 AM (#236253 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





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Location: The desert
Went ice fishing in the blustery weather yesterday. Only took a half hour to set up the first tip up cause it was so cold. Worth it though, caught lots of walleyes!
cincinnati
Posted 2/4/2007 10:09 AM (#236261 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 1120


Location: West Chester, OH
6 degrees here this AM. You guys, who know real winter, would consider that a heat wave, but most people around here are behaving like it's a sign of the apocalypse. Fairly certain that there is a bread & milk buying panic @ the grocery.

I, too , have a diesel (of the 18 wheeled variety) sitting unplugged since Friday. She's gonna be real cranky @ 5AM tomorrow....
ulbian
Posted 2/4/2007 10:25 AM (#236263 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




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I too went icefishing yesterday. Not a bad day at all. Been out sitting on a bucket in stuff alot worse than this.
sworrall
Posted 2/4/2007 11:00 AM (#236274 - in reply to #236263)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 32930


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
I love to Ice fish, but will not sit on a bucket ( or a portable, unless someone is crazy enough to go out there with me) in 15 below and 15 mph winds, I guess I'm a wuss. It was minus 21 at 9AM, I decided to leave the bluegills alone today.
Reef Hawg
Posted 2/4/2007 11:08 AM (#236275 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 3518


Location: north central wisconsin
Someone go out and chip out my tipups for me please. Or they are staying there........
Slamr
Posted 2/4/2007 12:22 PM (#236298 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 7090


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
I have no hot water.

However, I do have a frozen pipe in my laundry room where my hot water heater is.

So the good news is that I know why I have no hot water.

Bad news is that frozen pipe is also burst, with frozen water along the outside of it.

So, the bad news is that I am going to be staying in a hotel tonight so I can take a hot shower.

The good news now is that since I rent, I can just charge the landlord for the price of the fixing of the frozen and burst pipe, and I will try to charge him for the hotel room.

Moral to this story is that if you're going to live in a hundred year old house, with the plumbing running outside and/or in rooms with no heat, make sure you RENT that house.
Smokin Joe
Posted 2/4/2007 1:05 PM (#236305 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




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Hot water freezes faster than cold water....................weird, but it is a fact.....
MuskyHopeful
Posted 2/4/2007 1:16 PM (#236308 - in reply to #236305)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





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Location: Brookfield, WI
Smokin Joe - 2/4/2007 1:05 PM

Hot water freezes faster than cold water....................weird, but it is a fact.....


I don't see why that would be scientifically possible. The farther the water temp is from 32 degrees the longer it should take to slow the movement of the molecules to make the liquid a solid. Explain why, I'm interested.

Kevin

It's the cows.
FishingFool
Posted 2/4/2007 2:20 PM (#236323 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Location: Eau Claire,WI
Muskyhopeful,here is the info...
http://itotd.com/articles/521/water-freezing-and-boiling-myths/
bobski
Posted 2/4/2007 2:38 PM (#236327 - in reply to #236323)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 144


Location: Green Bay, WI
Ever been to a hockey game? The zamboni is resurfacing with hot water. Because it melts the surface scratches/cracks on the rink and also freezes faster.

Edited by bobski 2/4/2007 2:39 PM
MuskyHopeful
Posted 2/4/2007 3:14 PM (#236336 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
Paul, I think you might have misinterpreted the info on that site. Under some conditions, hot water can freeze quicker. It didn't work, though, for that guy's experiments.

From your link.

"Hot water freezes faster than cold water. Most experts say that, all things being equal, cold water freezes faster. However, things are not always equal. A curious phenomenon known as the Mpemba effect can, under some very specific (and poorly understood) circumstances, result in hot water freezing faster than cold water. One of the several possible explanations for this effect involves evaporation: if you start with extremely hot water, a good bit of it will evaporate (and a smaller quantity of water will freeze faster than a larger quantity). And so, according to chemists, this one is not a myth, and this is presumably what my high school chemistry assignment was getting at."

The experiment:

"Freezing Water: I started with three identical glass containers, each holding 100ml (about 3.5 fl. oz.) of filtered water: one at room temperature (72°F/22°C), one at the same temperature as my hot water tap (115°F/46°C), and one boiling (212°F/100°C). I put all these into my freezer, which has an air temperature of 0°F (–18°C). Since I knew that the water would not turn from liquid to ice all at once, my arbitrary standard for frozenness was the time at which a wooden chopstick dropped into the center of the container would no longer touch the bottom. I checked each of the containers every 5 minutes. The results? The room-temperature water froze in 50 minutes. The hot water froze in 80 minutes. And the boiling water froze in 95 minutes. My verdict: no contest—not even remotely close. Given the conditions in my freezer and the water I used, I could not reproduce the Mpemba effect.

I also tried a container of previously boiled water, now at room temperature. It froze in 60 minutes—more time (not less) than the unboiled water had taken, but not by much."

Seems like the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Much like global warming.

Kevin

It's the cows.
Cowboyhannah
Posted 2/4/2007 3:15 PM (#236337 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





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Location: Kronenwetter, WI
I think I'd prefer global warming over global cooling......
Smokin Joe
Posted 2/4/2007 3:47 PM (#236344 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 311


Hopeful,

I have been Plumbing for 20 years, every time someone calls about a frozen pipe, 90% of the time it is always the hot water side, I cant explain it I am a dumb plumber not a scientist...........
Shep
Posted 2/4/2007 4:01 PM (#236345 - in reply to #236344)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





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That's because the cold water pipes are used to being cold, while the hot water pipes are used to being nice and warm, and are a bunch of wussies. They don't tolerate the cold as well, and freeze first.

Speaking of freezing plumbing, I went out this AM to shovel the little snow that drifted, and almost froze mine!
MuskyHopeful
Posted 2/4/2007 4:03 PM (#236346 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero





Posts: 2865


Location: Brookfield, WI
Shep,

That's because you're plumbing is old. The pipes aren't what they used to be.

Mine either.

Kevin

Global warming, it's the cows.
bobski
Posted 2/4/2007 4:06 PM (#236347 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 144


Location: Green Bay, WI
Hopeful, which one froze SOLID first? Today would be a good day to experiment in the driveway.

Edited by bobski 2/4/2007 4:11 PM
Smokin Joe
Posted 2/4/2007 4:07 PM (#236348 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 311


You guys are making me laugh so hard, my plumbing just sprung a leak....LOL

WV Musky
Posted 2/4/2007 4:50 PM (#236356 - in reply to #236215)
Subject: RE: Eighteen Below Zero




Posts: 571


Location: Williamstown, WV
6 degrees here and a pipe under my house froze...thawed it out...found a nice leak. spent sunday fixing a water leak in 6 degree temps. Now I finally have water and I spent 25 minutes in the shower and I'm still cold. Summer I miss you
Shawn
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