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Location: Arlington Heights, IL | 2007 PMTT Schedule - Reduced Fields & Higher Payouts for 2007!
Qualifier #1
Fox Chain 'O' Lakes, IL
April 28th & 29th, 2007
Qualifier #2
Eagle River Chain, Wisconsin
June 23rd & 24th, 2007
Qualifier #3
Cass Lake, MN
August 24th & 25th, 2007
Qualifier #4
Madison Chain, WI
September 22nd & 23rd, 2007
Ranger Boats World Championship
Cave Run Lake, Kentucky
October 20th & 21st, 2007
Check out the PMTT website for more detailed info @ www.promusky.com |
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Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin | Reduced field and higher payouts sounds like you guys are on the rite track. I will have to visit the PMTT web site and check out whats new. |
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| I am glad the PMTT finally decided to lower the field sizes and increase entry fees/payouts. It is definetly a step in the right direction.
However, the dates and locations are a step in the wrong direction. The Fox Chain again? Give me a break!
They are also competing with the Minnesota Trail on the Madison and Cave Run dates. Where would you rather fish in Sept. Madison or Leech/Cass?
How about October? You can pick between Tonka or Cave? I don't think many people are going to opt to drive all the way to Cave in October. In the spring it's great, nobody can fish up north anyway. October is a different story though. Lots of good fishing to be had all over and no need to waste the gas all the way down there.
And if an angler decides they are not interested in the Championship. It kind of turns them off from fishing the whole trail as well.
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| two sense,
I'm not sure I agree with you. I think the Fox Chain is a great place for the spring opener. That time of year can be very good. Shelbyville would have been my only other choice.
Overall I think this is a very good schedule with great locations. As far as the championship in the Cave, if you talk to Greg, Tony or Crash, they will tell you it is one of the best times to be on the water. I have been on Tonka for a Championship in Oct. It was no cake walk for anyone.
As far as the drive goes to the Cave, I guess it depends where you are coming from.
If I am lucky enough to make the championship, I'll be at the Cave.
Bob Blanke |
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| I was dissapointed in last year's schedule, for the reasons everyone else was.
But this lineup? I LIKE it. I like it enough where I may have to fish it! |
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| Are you getting a boat for Xmas EA? 
You can bring it up to Olin for my backing up a boat 101 course if you do.... |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | Has the PMTT changed their format or is it going to take a 48"er to qualify on Cass this year? |
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| LOL!
I think I'm getting "you need more fishing stuff like you need a hole in the head!".
But if by some miracle of God (like a suitcase full of money falls out of the sky and lands at my feet) I do wind up with a boat before next season, I will happily take you up on your offer!
We just have to pick a day when nobody is at the launch. Or on the lake. Or driving past the launch. Or even thinking about being anywhere near the launch
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Location: Watertown, MN | EA, I don't know agree with better trail than last year, I guess it is all a personal preference. Eagle again, Pete was pretty fun, a little trecherous, but brought a new element to the trail, Vermillion one of the hottest lakes this year. Cave in spring. Beside bad timing of the weather. The only bad thing about the trail this year I heard was the choice of the Fox, for the championship, and opening there this year? When most locals don't have much positive to say about a lake!
Bob, where are Greg and tony in the Fall I know Greg is north til freeze, one reason only, BIG FISH! Waiting to see the other changes?
Troyz
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| Troy,
I agree....Big Fish and that's where you will see me next year in late Oct. and early Nov., but for a tournament, I see nothing wrong with the Cave in Oct. |
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| Troy,
Sorry about that ...I logged in. One more thing, I know a lot of guys that said they would never fish the Pete, ever again and I am one of those. I agree Vermillion is a great spot, so is Cass. I knew the Fox Chain in Nov. was not a good choice, but late April will turn numbers.
Bob Blanke |
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| I dont think people understand how important 'Treats" question is
the 48' minnimum could have a major impact on ALL tournament fishing in MN,,Would be intresting ti hear if the PMTT has heard any clarification on this.
Edited by happy hooker 12/22/2006 6:11 AM
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| Why does everyone bitch about The Fox Chain? There are good numbers and good size, so what if it doesn't give up fish easily. Isn't that the point? The cream will rise to the top no matter where an event is held. My gripe last year was "the dead carp classic" held on Pete. That was a waste. |
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| Not to take any sides... not to mention I dont even fish the PMTT.... but I like the idea of having the tournaments on waters where it is harder to catch numbers of fish. It narrows it down and you prove you are a good fisherman, and not just someone that got lucky (not that its a bad thing to get lucky sometimes) It is the PMTT, not the MMTT or the WMT. They SHOULD have tournaments held in most of the states that have muskies.
And about the Pete... Congrats to the guys that caught fish there. (you don't hear them crying) In fact, the guys that won it were probably fishing in far worst conditions than most saw that were fishing the tournament.
Edited by Reelwise 12/22/2006 10:36 PM
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Location: north central wisconsin | Pete gave up fish alot easier than the Fox, and wasn't nearly as ugly either. Man was that chain ugly. Good point above, with the cream rising above. Those that scored down there, put together a nice little pattern. Good food in the town of Antioch though, and was the highlight. I think the place was called The Lodge. Gourmet class sandwiches for typical bar food prices. I'd drive back to that place if ever down there again.
As far as the 48" size limit goes, Pete has a 45" limit and they allow 34" fish to be measured in non-transport events. Not sure about the regs in MN for this type of thing. I thought WI reverted to the statewide limit of 34" for non transport events, but then MI allowed 30" fish to be measured for the Green bay event this fall. How long has Cass had a 48" limit? We fished the Mike James mega a few years back and 40" was the tourney minimum.
Edited by Reef Hawg 12/23/2006 4:05 AM
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| I can deal with it if there it a tough bite at a PMTT event. I think a tough bite usually favors the more skilled anglers anyway.
What I don't like about the Fox is that it's not that good of a fishery anyway. Out of all the places I fished, it has to be the most boring structurally to fish. There is just not that much structure (and water for that matter) to fish. The Fox is also way too small in my opinion to have an event at. It was crowded out there with 50 boats, what's it going to be like with 125? The more crowded the lake becomes the less it favors skilled anglers and the more it boils down to who was lucky enough to be the bait in front of the fish when it decides to eat. Good bite or not how many 50 inchers will be caught there?
I would rather fish the Pete again anyday. Structurally, the Pete is much more challenging and diverse. |
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| I think september is the right time to be on the mad chain.The 45 inch size limit has really done wonders here. I know many anglers who fish Madison lakes boated there personal bests this year. Lets not forget madison holds the record for most fish boated the last time there was a fall pmtt event here. |
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Location: Southeast Wisconsin | WHAT?? The FCOL is an awesome spring fisheree!
From ice out-S WI opener I fish the Chain almost daily and do well enough to justify 3 hours of driving to get there and back.
One things for sure, the Chain lacks the size to accomadate a PMTT event. If Grass held some structure and the South Chain got more pressure it would work (hint hint)
The other beef I have is with the date. I think the first or second week in April would be a much better choice..
I like the mad chain in Sept..Gives me an excuse to fish it more this year..
Happy Holidays!
Ben Kueng
Guaranteed Guide Service
http://www.benkueng.com
Edited by Ben Kueng 12/23/2006 10:25 AM
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | The change goes into effect in 2007. The MN DNR doesn't change their lenght limit for tournaments. Otherwise we'd be having a 34" limit for tournaments instead of the statewide 40".
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| two sense - 12/23/2006 7:18 AM
Good bite or not how many 50 inchers will be caught there?
LOL wow. If that is why you fish you need to quit.
The Chain is a great fishery. I dont know from experience because I have only ice fished it a few times, but I have seen numerous pictures of fish over 48-50 inches caught there this year. The Fox river in Illinois isn't that bad either. The MMTT tournaments are held during the best times of the year for those bodies of water as far as both numbers and size so you cant compare the two. If you like those lakes better, dedicate your season to that trail. If you want a diff. variety of lakes, fish the PMTT and take on the challenge of a diverse field of lakes.
Edited by Reelwise 12/23/2006 11:49 AM
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| Well you can compare the two and you hit the nail on the head with the difference between them. One tournament promotor is going to the lakes that people want to fish when they want to be there. The other is going to the lakes where the tourism board's want the tournaments to be.
Ideally, (assuming all the locations are enticing) I would fish both circuits. However, with the overlap in dates, it's not possible. |
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| Reelwise -
I fish for a lot of different reason's. However, I must admit that trying to catch 50 plus incher's is a big part of it for me. I think it's a big part of what a lot of other serious anglers are after as well.
I would venture to say with a fair amount of certainty that Mille Lacs and Vermillion produce more 50 plus inch fish in a couple days than the Fox Chain has in the past 20 years.
I don't want to come across as negative toward the PMTT. They are doing some good things too. I just don't like the choice of lakes (especially the Fox Chain). It would be nice to see them get away from Cave and Eagle River once in a while too. There are other good lakes in Kentucky and Wisconsin. |
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Location: Southeast Wisconsin | Theres a reason why Eagle River and Cave Run have qualifiers every year...Your just not gonna hear it from me..LOL
Happy Holidays
Ben
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| It is still legal to measure fish isn't it?
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| two sense - 12/24/2006 11:26 AM
Reelwise -
I fish for a lot of different reason's. However, I must admit that trying to catch 50 plus incher's is a big part of it for me. I think it's a big part of what a lot of other serious anglers are after as well.
I would venture to say with a fair amount of certainty that Mille Lacs and Vermillion produce more 50 plus inch fish in a couple days than the Fox Chain has in the past 20 years.
I don't want to come across as negative toward the PMTT. They are doing some good things too. I just don't like the choice of lakes (especially the Fox Chain). It would be nice to see them get away from Cave and Eagle River once in a while too. There are other good lakes in Kentucky and Wisconsin.
While you may be correct, there was a conspicuous lack of big fish caught at the PMTT event at vermilion this year, so it's really just luck sometimes. The Fox Chain produces big fish. My partner boated a 49" to win the FRV Spring tourney on the Fox Chain that was so fat it was close to being a state record, upper 30#'s for sure. |
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Location: Rhinelander. | I like the schedule and been waiting for it> I would have been to not ever go back to the pete. Let me say this exception you'd have to pay me to fish it ,then maybe>
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| size limit only apply if you are not keeping the fish. Since all PMTT are spot releases, and are not transport releases, then possession does not come into play.
Edited by MuskyStalker 12/25/2006 9:55 AM
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Location: Rhinelander. | Rip into the minn d.n.r. ,why? Other states have let the P.M.T.T. and other tournaments work around the size limit> Whats the big deal if they do> What does it hurt? Its nothing to get worked up about,its only a fish. I will add one that is very well cared for by anglers.
Communities pay to have events like this come to their area as they bring alot of money into the community.
Its simple if you don't like tournaments or the rules they have don't fish them. Why try to take away the enjoyment of fellow anglers!!!!!
Today there are more muskies then ever and they are released at a rate higher then ever. This is a good thing..................my glass is half full, yours half empty. We all see things differently but after fishing over a hundred tournaments I can tell you that muskies caught in them are babied. $$$$$$$rides on every point so why would anyone not handle with extreme care?
Certainly many other important issues to fight with the D.n.r over.
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| Musky Stalker -
There may have a been a lack of big fish caught and a relatively tough bite at the Vermillion event by "Vermillion standards". However, there were still four fish over 47 caught including one over 50 inches. All of the fish registered were over 40 inches. If that happened just about anywhere else (ie. the Fox or Eagle River), everyone would be talking about all of the big fish that were caught. If you added in all the sublegals that were caught, there would be even more talk about what a great bite it was (had it occurred somewhere else).
Sure, some of it boils to luck with weather and such. However, I think more of it has to do with picking a lake that has a good population of big fish and being there when they are most likely to bite. It's tough to catch big fish if there's only a few in the system. If you're there at the wrong time of year tougher still.
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| So has anyone answered Treats' question yet? Will people be able to measure and register sublegal fish on Cass next year?
Any fish that clearly won't measure at 48" doesn't even need to be netted or taken out of the water. That is how I would describe a hooked fish being "babied". |
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