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Message Subject: Chatterbait
BALDY
Posted 3/17/2006 11:02 AM (#182922)
Subject: Chatterbait




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Anybody have experience with these yet? They look great in the water, but that "lip" makes me pretty nervous. Just doesnt seem up the task of musky fishing. Anybody out there that can prove me wrong and convince me to buy a couple?
asteffes
Posted 3/17/2006 11:14 AM (#182923 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




Posts: 454


I thought the exact same thing when I was looking at them at the show. They looked great, but I was worried about their durability. I have seen my bucktails completly destroyed after catching a ski and I have had to bend things back into place. The flap on the chatterbait looked like it would get ripped right off. I hope I am wrong, I am not trying to say it is a bad bait by any means. I just had the same concern as Baldy.

Anyone use these? How did they hold up?

Tony
muskihntr
Posted 3/17/2006 11:19 AM (#182925 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




Posts: 2037


Location: lansing, il
read the chat from last nite that brad ruh from musky innovations had, if you read thru there was alot of discussion about these baits. im expecting some great results from this bait this year!!!!!

Edited by muskihntr 3/17/2006 11:33 AM
basscaster
Posted 3/17/2006 11:25 AM (#182927 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




Posts: 360


Location: Tinley Park. Fish Cen IL. Bass & Vilas Cty.Muskie
There are a few copycat baits out already. I saw one yesterday where you just buy the blade and you attach your own jig.Those were $2.99 each. On Bass fishing home page(search) there is a guy who posted yesterday who make them with heavy duty jig/Gamme hooks(pictures-his name smalljawer ?). You might be able to get a similar action swimming a standup head ? ?
lambeau
Posted 3/17/2006 11:26 AM (#182928 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


http://muskie.outdoorsfirst.com/articles/03.17.2006/1026/Musky.Inno...
Top H20
Posted 3/17/2006 12:03 PM (#182932 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait



I was just at cave run last week, and used 2 -1oz. chatterbaits. They really put out some hellashious vibs!! I fished one for 4 straight hrs. with no hits. (all of our strikes came from Jerk baits)
The 2nd one I put on a bigger and heaver snap and noticed that this bait ran a couple inches shallower after being retrieved at the same speed as the first chatterbait. I had to slow down quite a bit in order to keep it from breaking the surface.
I did have to bend the snap with pliers to keep it from opening 3 different times on the first one I used.I really don't know how they will handle a BIG thrashing fish but I'm sure these baits will get bit alot!


Jerome
The Yeti
Posted 3/17/2006 12:57 PM (#182942 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


with a little baitmaker enginuity (which i know you have Baldy), you can reinforce the thing to handle more than the 70?lb max strength snap and double conect from jig eye to metal blade with some wire

i'll post pics for ya when i get home tonite, if i remember.

the changes i made looked drastic, but had no effect on the original action.

i wasn't worried about the snap as much as the jigeye/blade connection.

great action on those things though.

Edited by The Yeti 5/3/2006 12:07 AM
BALDY
Posted 3/17/2006 1:12 PM (#182949 - in reply to #182942)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




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The Yeti - 3/17/2006 12:57 PM

with a little baitmaker enginuity (which i know you have Baldy), you can reinforce the thing to handle more than the 80lb max strength snap and double conect from jig eye to metal blade with some wire

i'll post pics for ya when i get home tonite, if i remember.

the changes i made looked drastic, but had no effect on the original action.

i wasn't worried about the snap as much as the jigeye/blade connection.

great action on those things though.


though of that already too. going to pick up a couple and give it a try.

I read the chat with Brad. The snap was the lesser of my worries. That little piece connecting the lip to the jig eye, just looks so weak.
The Yeti
Posted 3/17/2006 4:29 PM (#182982 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


thats the part i worried about too, looks like it'll blow up on the first bad snag or fight with a "twister"

u can put a #5 staylock in place of the other one, dont know why he didnt just do that from the git go......

i'll put a pic up tonite when i get home so u can see what i did.....cuz i don't exactly remember, it was back in january lol....it's been hanging ever since i threw it the first day. i remember it looked heinous, but made the lure stronger and still the same action.
GOTONE
Posted 3/17/2006 5:32 PM (#182991 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





Posts: 476


Location: WI
Well I had some early season success on the bait. This 45"er ate right at the boat following the Chatter Bait in the dirty water of Kinkaid. My first fish of the year, not a bad way to start!!! I also had the snap open up on me three times, so you'll need to do some work on the snap to get it shut tight. We are experimenting some other ways to make it work better too. It really vibrates the rod and will draw some attention. I think it will be a great night bait. Muskies in March was a great way to start the year for a guy from Wisconsin......


GotOne


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muskie! nut
Posted 3/17/2006 7:24 PM (#183007 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: Yahara River Chain
#*^@, GOTONE you lucky SOB! Congrats!

Could you email me a copy for our newsletter?

Gerard
lobi
Posted 3/17/2006 9:13 PM (#183020 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: Holly, MI
Can someone post a pic of this thing? thx Also where to get it
GOTONE
Posted 3/17/2006 9:25 PM (#183023 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: WI
http://www.muskyinnovations.com/chatterbait.htm
AWH
Posted 3/17/2006 9:32 PM (#183024 - in reply to #183023)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: Musky Tackle Online, MN
I should have them available at my site http://www.muskytackleonline.com next week sometime. They've been a hot ticket and selling well. Brad should finally be getting them back in stock by Monday (maybe even today already) and will hopefully be able to get me back in stock by the middle to end of next week.

Aaron

Edited by AWH 3/17/2006 9:33 PM



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The Yeti
Posted 3/17/2006 10:31 PM (#183033 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


Baldy

i used #7 split rings and replaced the top snap with a #4 staylock....a bit of work to get in there, but it WILL go.

the added noise of the rings too, i forgot to tell you that.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/ThexxYeti/DSC00042.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v346/ThexxYeti/DSC00041.jpg



Edited by The Yeti 3/17/2006 10:33 PM
Top H20
Posted 3/18/2006 7:25 AM (#183050 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


Hey Yeti, Does your fix seam to change the action of the bait any?It looks alot more durable the way you have rigged it.

Jerome
BALDY
Posted 3/18/2006 7:43 AM (#183052 - in reply to #183050)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




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nice work Yeti. Gonna give that a shot
muskyme
Posted 3/18/2006 10:34 AM (#183072 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: Bloomington, Illinois
Yeti,

Thanks for passing this mod along....
matt
The Yeti
Posted 3/18/2006 10:57 AM (#183073 - in reply to #182942)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


The Yeti - 3/17/2006 12:57 PM the changes i made looked drastic, but had no effect on the original action. i wasn't worried about the snap as much as the jigeye/blade connection.


not a bit
actually made it louder cuz of the rings. u can bend the #4 staylock to fit thru the holes on the blade. DON"T bend the blade around the wire of the staylock, it's too soft, it'll rip.

just straighten the first bend in the staylock latch to 90ยบ after you open it, and insert it in the blade hole, bend it back to what it was.

put your rings on, and your'e there.

good luck fellas and you're welcome.

i'm still worried about the jigeye opening on a twist, but i think this gives it at least a bit more security.

Edited by The Yeti 3/18/2006 11:02 AM
muskie! nut
Posted 3/18/2006 4:19 PM (#183109 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: Yahara River Chain
I had GOTONE Dan stop but my leader making class at the CC MI School and I made him a wire that had loops on both ends (it was about 1" long) and through one of the holes in the bill. We took it to the pool and he says it feels like it did when he first ot it. I should have taken a picture of it, but my mind doesn't work that fast. maybe Dan can see this and post a picture himself.
The Yeti
Posted 3/18/2006 6:44 PM (#183134 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


for some reason, and i was telling my buddy this....these things SHOULDN"T WORK...they just look like that don't work (action wise). aside from that, they have SO much action, they could probably shake loose a 3 pound clump of weeds lol.
GOTONE
Posted 3/18/2006 9:15 PM (#183152 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: WI
Gerard, I'll post a picture of the modification that we made to it tomorrow morning. It did work the same in the pool as it did before the change.
GOTONE
Posted 3/19/2006 2:30 AM (#183171 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





Posts: 476


Location: WI
Here are the modifications that we made to the bait at the CCMI school. The lure worked the same and is much more sturdy than the snap that comes with the bait.


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GOTONE
Posted 3/19/2006 2:51 AM (#183173 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





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Location: WI
Here are a few more pics:


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Suspend
Posted 3/19/2006 6:36 AM (#183178 - in reply to #183173)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


Here is a demo:

http://www.lureandtackle.com/product_info.php?cPath=43&products_id=...
The Yeti
Posted 3/19/2006 10:38 AM (#183198 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


nice idea man.

however, i think a lot of us were more worried about the connection between the blade and the jigeye itself.


i might just have to add your wiring mod to mine though....i REALLY like that, looks much better and stronger than pushing a #4 staylock thru there.
GOTONE
Posted 3/19/2006 10:47 AM (#183199 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait





Posts: 476


Location: WI
We were still working on your concept or something similar of connecting the jig head to the ring that we made on the underside of the metal lip. We were thinking about seven strand wire or maybe even flourocarbon. I'm going to try your 3 split ring version as well.
I had the original snap that came on the lure open up three times on me, so this was a big concern as well.

GotOne

Edited by GOTONE 3/19/2006 11:05 AM
BALDY
Posted 3/19/2006 12:19 PM (#183206 - in reply to #183199)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




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Well, I picked a few up yesterday and went to work. Tried one with the Yeti mod, but didnt care that much for how the split ring got bound up in the jig eye (no offense man).

With a couple short pieces of sevenstrand here is what I came up with...




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The Yeti
Posted 3/20/2006 12:36 AM (#183260 - in reply to #182922)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait


that's awesome!
See, a little improvisation and `voila my friend.

there were some great posts here

i worry about that jigeye coming open on a twisting fish...i like my stuff solid, and that's the one thing that is still left to chance there

i actually tried making a harness to fit over the jig head with 124# wire, but it was too combersome and cockeyed.
wonder if drilling a small hole thru the head somewhere...........lol

i have to try it out on some other jigs b4 i ruin the only chatterbait i have though.
BALDY
Posted 3/20/2006 7:36 AM (#183270 - in reply to #183260)
Subject: RE: Chatterbait




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The Yeti - 3/20/2006 12:36 AM

that's awesome!
See, a little improvisation and `voila my friend.

there were some great posts here

i worry about that jigeye coming open on a twisting fish...i like my stuff solid, and that's the one thing that is still left to chance there

i actually tried making a harness to fit over the jig head with 124# wire, but it was too combersome and cockeyed.
wonder if drilling a small hole thru the head somewhere...........lol

i have to try it out on some other jigs b4 i ruin the only chatterbait i have though.


I dont think I would worry about the actual eye on that jig opening. It would be pretty hard for a fish to get enough leverage on that part of the bait to actually twist it open. My .02
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