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happy hooker
Posted 7/13/2005 10:34 AM (#153377)
Subject: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Talked to someone well known in the metro who is on the water daily with alot of friends and he reported 4- 50' class fish have been found floating dead in the past couple weeks,,anybody fishing the metro please fight less and try to take less pictures of the fish you catch, not tryin to preach just report,,,Monday I was on a local Tiger lake and suckers were found dead in shallows with some live ones up next to shore looking stressed out..."its a "hot" one this year
Steve Cady
Posted 7/13/2005 2:16 PM (#153406 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


I found one on White Bear lake week and quit fishing the metro.

Mikes Extreme
Posted 7/13/2005 2:26 PM (#153410 - in reply to #153406)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
No guide trips for me this week.............Canceled the ones scheduled on Pewaukee.

Water temps in the high 70's yesterday. Might hit 80 today.

Going to upper MN this weekend for a week. YEEEE HAAAA !!!!
Troyz
Posted 7/13/2005 2:46 PM (#153414 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Mikie were ya heading in MN, hitting big pond or vermillion

Troyz
Fishwater1
Posted 7/13/2005 2:48 PM (#153415 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





What are temps on the Mad. Chain? I was thinking of heading up there but may go elsewhere if temps are too high.
Bytor
Posted 7/13/2005 3:28 PM (#153420 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Location: The Yahara Chain
Monona was 76 degrees last night, temps are not a problem. Released a fish last night and one Friday night both fish required zero effort to revive. They both took off like bats out of hell. If you are worried about the fish don't troll, cast the weedlines.
Phish Killer
Posted 7/13/2005 3:35 PM (#153421 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 827


Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota
Saw the same thing on WB Saturday AM....I'm out!
muskyboy
Posted 7/13/2005 3:53 PM (#153422 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Mad Chain water temperatures were 78 to 85 degrees this weekend from late night lows to midday highs
ToddM
Posted 7/13/2005 8:44 PM (#153446 - in reply to #153377)
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Posts: 20233


Location: oswego, il
What are the water temps up in northern wi? Air temps are up in the 80's to low 90's the past 2 weeks.
hi
Posted 7/14/2005 7:49 AM (#153466 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Believe it or not water temp on Vermilion is 80 degrees when the sun is out., Try to keep the BIG fish in the water or they WILL die.
Have fun
Muskie Treats
Posted 7/14/2005 7:52 AM (#153469 - in reply to #153377)
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Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
I was out last night on tonka with the family for some fun in the sun.

85 degrees.

It's too hot for fishing right now. If you do get a fish, it's gonna die.

Next week it's supposed to cool down. Give it some time or go bass fishing.

BTW, those carp at the Maynards docks are getting REALLY big! Anyone interested in going out for some golden tarpon?
Mikes Extreme
Posted 7/14/2005 8:20 AM (#153474 - in reply to #153469)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Pewaukee brown trout I call those bugle lipped golden slime balls..
I have gave the guide stuff up until I get back from MN.

Don't bring the fish out of the water if you catch one, thats if you have to fish.

Going North on Saturday.....................
Wade Johnson
Posted 7/14/2005 8:39 AM (#153477 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


What about everyone that give up their local fishing to come to MN because "the water is too hot?" Well its too hot here too! Not sure why it's ok to fish here in the heat, but not elsewhere. The PMMT left a few floaters on Tonka last year too.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 7/14/2005 9:34 AM (#153479 - in reply to #153477)
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Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Wade,

What is the water temps on Millac's. (spelling?)

This trip has been planned since last year.

Maybe we will opt for other fish.
Parker
Posted 7/14/2005 9:35 AM (#153481 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Water temps from 83 to 84 on Vermilion yesterday. Another day of 90+ won't help. It's not better up here than down there. Fish for smallies if you’re heading up.
Mikes Extreme
Posted 7/14/2005 9:46 AM (#153482 - in reply to #153481)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 2691


Location: Pewaukee, Wisconsin
Water temps on Pewaukee Lake 77 degrees last night.

Hard to believe its that warm way up there.

We will fish for something. Smallies and walleyes would be great also.

We need a cold front...............Some rain or clouds for a week........PLEASE !!!
Phish Killer
Posted 7/14/2005 11:13 AM (#153489 - in reply to #153377)
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Posts: 827


Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota
Yeah Koepp it's been crazy hot in Minnesota and it doesn't look like we'll be getting a break from it for another week...maybe a little rain but 90's as far as the eye can see.

What are the temps on Cass...anyone know???
happy hooker
Posted 7/14/2005 11:36 AM (#153492 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


heres an option guys..

usually go fishing on weds nights but its toooooooooo hot... instead last night I went to the movies,,,"war of the worlds" then snuck in and saw Mr & Ms Smith too,,,two thumbs up,,not has good has fishing but very relaxing sitting in a nice cool dark movie

Ill make some people mad here but I might save some metro fish,,,Apple River Flowage stays cool most of the summer,,please file on the right for death threats
Wade Johnson
Posted 7/14/2005 11:44 AM (#153495 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


Mike -

I don't konw. I've been on four different lakes in the past week (bassin) and the temp has been above 80 on each. It's hot. Wasn't taking a shot at your, moreso at several others.
Krappie
Posted 7/14/2005 11:49 AM (#153497 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 419


Location: Appleton, WI
Last weekend on the water I saw surface temps at 71°. This was the norm on the three lakes that I had fished in Vilas County,Wisconsin. But I'd suspect that from the past heat spell they are probably closer to mid to upper 70's. I guess it all depends how cool the nights have been up there. Maybe some local boys can chime in on what they currently have.

catch ya later,
Krappie

P.S I wanted to add that these were on clear water lakes so maybe on the darker water it would much warmer.

Edited by Krappie 7/14/2005 11:51 AM
Netman
Posted 7/14/2005 12:02 PM (#153502 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 880


Location: New Berlin,Wisconsin,53151
Hey the salmon are biting on Michigan, its a great time in between Muskie fishing. We hooked up on 5 fish, 2 were in the 20lb class, but that wasn't a good night, you should beable to limit out in acouple of hours.
They also make great grill buddies, just ask Sanks he's the Grill Master on salmon.

Netman
Muskie Treats
Posted 7/14/2005 12:22 PM (#153506 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
I was up at Thornes yesterday and Josh said the north end of the pond as 84 deg. Off shore may be better. Check the water temps in the middle. Your a master troller Mike, take a crack at it and give me the GPS coordinants
mikie
Posted 7/14/2005 12:28 PM (#153509 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Location: Athens, Ohio
I gotta agree with Treats, if anyone's got the knack for trolling for muskies down to a science, it is Captain Koepp.
West Va. water temps last week were 84-86*, so that's all, folks! Any more and the fish will come up pre-cooked. m
Mauser
Posted 7/14/2005 12:33 PM (#153512 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress




Posts: 724


Location: Southern W.Va.
Water temp was 84-86 degrees last weekend here in W.Va. at Woodrum Lake. The weekend before on the Little Kanawha river it was running about same .

Question: Do southern strain of fish have a hiogher stress level? Caught a sub-legal last weekend and on release it took off with no problems.................Just wondering

Mauser
Herb_b
Posted 7/14/2005 1:25 PM (#153520 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 829


Location: Maple Grove, MN
Its really hot, but do you all know for sure that those fish died due to the heat or was it something else? Could it be that a bunch of live-baiters have been out with their kill rigs or just some plain mishandling of fish? Lots of novice types will keep a fish out of the water for five or ten minutes to take the hooks out and photos and will do that no matter what the water temps are. Of course those fish are in much greater danger in the warm water.

But if one kept the fight short, never took the fish out of the water and just did a water release, it seems one would reduce the stress on the fish greatly.

I doubt many novice types will stay home just because the water is warm.

Just a few thoughts.
johnskarie
Posted 7/14/2005 3:00 PM (#153542 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress



No "novice types" won't stay home during warm weather, but we can.

Warm water holds very little oxygen, and the whole process of landing a fish is much more stressful than in cooler temps. Especially during extended periods of warm weather, which in MN we've had, and it looks like will continue to have.

If you're going to fish, do it in the morning. Don't take fish out of water for any reason.

Consider going barbless for easier realease during the warmer periods.

The bigger the fish, the more stressful it is. Big fish have a much harder time reviving in water that has low oxygen levels, and even if they swim away, delayed mortality is a much greater threat than normal.

JS
Just a thought
Posted 7/14/2005 3:19 PM (#153547 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress


If Cady and Hulbert pulled off the water something must REALLY be wrong.

Muskie Treats
Posted 7/14/2005 3:32 PM (#153552 - in reply to #153377)
Subject: RE: 4 -50's dead in metro heat stress





Posts: 2384


Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot
Herb, a sucker would live 3.4 seconds in this bathwater.

Don't go out.
esoxlady
Posted 7/14/2005 4:27 PM (#153559 - in reply to #153377)
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Posts: 223


Location: minneapolis
So what temp is too high?

Clearly the metro lakes are running 80 +

But farther north ( Leech, Winnie, ect ) could be lower- and if so- I'd like to know what you guys think is the max temp to fish. 77-78 ? as I plan to be fishing next week and need to plan accordingly. Thanks
esoxaddict
Posted 7/14/2005 4:41 PM (#153562 - in reply to #153377)
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Namekagon for me. Any farther North and I'd be fishing Lake Superior...
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