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Location: Madison wi | Im sure this has come up several times, but what rod holders are everyone using for trolling? Ive been using basic scottys' and havent had any problems, yet. But i dont exactly trust them on a 25+ lb fish. Thanks in advance |
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Location: oswego, il | I love my Scotty rod holders for ease of use. Never an issue. People say they have broken them, i suspect they lock down their drags with giant baits. I don't lock down my drags. No issues keeping a medium drag, caught fish up to 51" and salmon fish with dipseys, no problems. If i had to use a down east rod holder, i would probably stop trolling for everything. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ToddM - 9/2/2018 11:09 AM
If i had to use a down east rod holder, i would probably stop trolling for everything.
^ i use Folbe's, but agree with this 100%. down-easters = the mk pd of rod holders. |
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| Folbe....will never own DE again. |
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| Why all the negative comments about down east holders?
I love mine, and most serious trollers I know use them.
Not starting a fight, just curious. |
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| Lizmorea - 9/3/2018 5:22 PM
Why all the negative comments about down east holders?
I love mine, and most serious trollers I know use them.
Not starting a fight, just curious.
Use them long enough and they will break. They also eat up cork handles. |
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| Folbes for me. Love them |
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Location: SE, WI. | Pat Hoolihan - 9/3/2018 5:33 PM Lizmorea - 9/3/2018 5:22 PM Why all the negative comments about down east holders? I love mine, and most serious trollers I know use them. Not starting a fight, just curious. Use them long enough and they will break. They also eat up cork handles. Hmmmm, kind of interesting Pat. My e, glass rods have foam, and my down east don't eat the foam. A lot softer than cork. Not sure if you understand how downeast seed. They straddle the reel seat. Never touch the foam or the cork ... JD |
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Location: oswego, il | Getting rods in and out of the DE holder is a big pain. It's a one handed job getting a rod in while opening the holder with the other. Even releasing pressure, the rod is difficult to remove. I have lost fish using them. Not fun, no thanks. |
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| I like and use DE holders. Like anything else some will like them some won't. Much like the systems for holding electronics........I hate Ram, others will swear by them. To each their own.  |
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| For down rods there's nothing easier or more solid. Holder stays open once you open it, can hold rod with two hands now, put rod in to the "claw" and slam it shut. One motion deal. Fish on its one hand fore grip one hand rear grip, pull fore grip push rear grip up and out it goes. Don't know why some hate on them. Only thing that makes them difficult is if you still got trigger on reel seat. Cut em off. To each their own try em all out see what ya like |
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Location: oswego, il | I prefer my trolling rods with a trigger on them. Much easier to hold. I suspect the DE has to be angled down to keep it in the open position. I use big boards and the rod is not fun putting in an upright DE. Say what you will any of them I have used in other people's boats and the two clamp on holders I have have proven difficult to operate. I also seen a musky fishing show this past season that shows exactly what I am talking about. |
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Location: SE, WI. | ToddM - 9/3/2018 9:22 PM Getting rods in and out of the DE holder is a big pain. It's a one handed job getting a rod in while opening the holder with the other. Even releasing pressure, the rod is difficult to remove. I have lost fish using them. Not fun, no thanks. Hmmmm,Todd, A rod holder has nothing to do with losing fish. Many reasons why fish get off, But it's Not The Rod Holder!!! Hook preparation is HUGE! Drag setting is HUGE! Right hooks is HUGE! IMO, getting a rod from out the holder, as fast as you can, after a fish hits, is a BIg Mistake!!! Like stated before, use rod holder in your comfort Zone ...Best For You!!! JD |
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Location: oswego, il | jdsplasher - 9/4/2018 4:35 AM
ToddM - 9/3/2018 9:22 PM Getting rods in and out of the DE holder is a big pain. It's a one handed job getting a rod in while opening the holder with the other. Even releasing pressure, the rod is difficult to remove. I have lost fish using them. Not fun, no thanks. Hmmmm,Todd, A rod holder has nothing to do with losing fish. Many reasons why fish get off, But it's Not The Rod Holder!!! Hook preparation is HUGE! Drag setting is HUGE! Right hooks is HUGE! IMO, getting a rod from out the holder, as fast as you can, after a fish hits, is a BIg Mistake!!! Like stated before, use rod holder in your comfort Zone ...Best For You!!! JD
With suckers too, i would say having a rod holder that takes you upwards of 20 to 30 seconds to get rod out is a big mistake. |
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| If it takes you 20-30 seconds then yes you need to be using something else. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i don't troll muskies, but pulling 9 lines in a boat salmon fishing with big dipsies etc... separates rod holders pretty quickly, not just grabbing for catching but re-loads etc... . if rail mounted, DE's are even more fun (insert rubber hose nonsense that doesn't work here). i have i think 4 of the powder-coated DE's. they decorate the cluttered work bench in the garage and are pretty effective for that. they sit right next to a couple pd pedals. |
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| Scotty work great. I don't troll so much any more but caught plenty of fish with them. |
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| I like the Cisco System rod holders and tracks. High quality functional stuff. Lots of variety and options. I also have 2 clamp on Down Easters on the Cisco adapters for the track. |
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| Fat az rod holders |
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Location: 31 | The same guys always seem to rush to bash the down East rod holders… Sled even said he doesn't troll for muskie but still bashes them? Maybe I should do a video removing and returning a large board rod from a DE only using one hand in about 10 seconds for Todd? They also do not “chew up” cork handles when the rod is properly seated (don’t even come in contact with the cork). Frankly, there is a learning curve with the DE but once you get yourself dialed in on the proper way to use them, they are the easiest to use and become a real asset for muskie trolling.
I have a strong preference for rod triggers and they fit in the DE with no problem. This is kind of next level stuff, but some rods have wide triggers and although it's not necessary, my preference is to narrow them down some with a file so they slide up into the DE in a locked position. Either way, you can always wind in while the rod is still in the holder… it's just a little easier with the triggers locked because the reel does not move. You can actually wind in 2 board rods at a time this way with the rods still in the holder… kind of a handy deal when you have a big fish on and need to clear the boards on that side quickly.
If you're running 9-12 rods, the rod trees are certainly hard to beat. We run 6 rods 90% of the time and been running this latest setup this summer for almost 400 hours so far… and it's 100% rock solid. The rail mounted Fat AZ with the DE is absolutely the best setup that I have used for 6 rod muskie trolling, and therefore can wholeheartedly recommend it… same with the 700 Tekotas versus the 600 series.
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Location: oswego, il | Jerry, and the same guys talk about how great they are,:-) if you watch MH TV, you were able to see exactly what i am talking about on an episode last season. I could see the rod holder chewing up a cork handle if you don't set it in by the reel seat. I tried it that way and it did just trying to find a better way to use it. |
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Location: Walker, MN |
I like Folbe's for down rods or straight back.
Tube style rod holders are superior for boards imo. So much easier to just slide the rod up and out. |
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Location: 31 | Todd, don't take this the wrong way because I agree with most of what you say on other subjects. However, in this case I feel you're handing out some misinformation on a product that you apparently do not have a lot of experience with.
I don't post as often as you by a long shot, but when I do it's only about things that I really know well from long first-hand experience. I think I've seen Musky Hunter twice back in the day… and honestly don't see the relevance because ruining the cork is not possible when used correctly. I remember Mike Lazarus was using DEs back then, and still uses them now… do you think he would continue to use them if they ruined rods or were as big of a PIA you claim them to be?
Otherwise, I've come close to trying tubes for my outside board rods to help get them away from the boat. However, I really like bringing in the boards while the rod is still in the holder, and the DE makes this possible with 1 hand… it's just easier than cranking in a board and lure while holding the rod. I still can appreciate the tubes application, as well as a rod tree. There are other rod holders I would never consider using... but see so reason to bash them. |
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Location: oswego, il | Jerry, i am telling people my experience with them. I have no personal interest other than that. The only way for the DE to damage the cork would be to set the rod in it by the foregrip. Setting it in by the reel seat would not cause that issue. I have yet to be in a boat where someone, not just me didn't have an issue with the rod holder. One of my buddies has lost rods and teathers them. I also believe those who have broken a scotty troll with locked down drags which i do not do. I can also reel in boards with the scotty. |
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| There is a short learning curve.
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| So as to not to participate in the debate, I'll just post what I use. Fat AZ Rail Mounts with DE Heads on my Down and Out Rods and Fat AZ Rail Mounts with Fat AZ Tubes for my On-Line Board Rods. Very solid set-up for me.
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| Traxtech with the Down east holder. Expensive but they are solid and the adjustability is awesome
https://www.traxstech.com/ALT_4_S17_4_Inch_Tall_Mount_with_S_17_Rod_... |
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| once again salty by down east are the best and all the rest is really unsafe.it talk about personal experience of 25 years plus years of trolling and friends story. |
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| jdsplasher - 9/4/2018 4:35 AM
ToddM - 9/3/2018 9:22 PM Getting rods in and out of the DE holder is getting a rod from out the holder, as fast as you can, after a fish hits, is a BIg Mistake!!! Like stated before, use rod holder in your comfort Zone ...Best For You!!! JD
amen to that.boat set the hook,a plastic rh would break if the rod stay too long in the rh but that's not the case with salty.so no stress |
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| Pat Hoolihan - 9/3/2018 5:33 PM
Lizmorea - 9/3/2018 5:22 PM
Why all the negative comments about down east holders?
I love mine, and most serious trollers I know use them.
Not starting a fight, just curious.
Use them long enough and they will break. They also eat up cork handles. |
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