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Message Subject: Best all around leader length?
Bigbucks1985
Posted 3/4/2018 3:16 PM (#894980)
Subject: Best all around leader length?




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So I only have two setups and would like to use an all around leader on both if possible. I will be throwing crankbaits, bucktails and a few swimbaits. And occasionally a jerk/glide bait. Is there an all around length that would cover my needs well? I will be getting some stealth tackle pre made flouro leaders.
muskie! nut
Posted 3/4/2018 5:03 PM (#894990 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





Posts: 2894


Location: Yahara River Chain
Single strand wire 10 inches
21 strand wire 12 inches
Fluorocarbon throw them out
DonPursch
Posted 3/4/2018 5:07 PM (#894991 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: RE: Best all around leader length?




Posts: 540


Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN
Single strand wire 11” no longer !
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/4/2018 5:58 PM (#894996 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





Posts: 1425


Location: St. Lawrence River
130lb fluoro 12-16"
Bigbucks1985
Posted 3/4/2018 6:04 PM (#894997 - in reply to #894996)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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I have some 18” stealth leaders, would those work ok? Or should I get some a little shorter?
fishhawk50
Posted 3/4/2018 6:11 PM (#894999 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: oconomowoc, wi
18" 130# flouro..
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/4/2018 7:17 PM (#895007 - in reply to #894997)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





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Location: St. Lawrence River
Bigbucks1985 - 3/4/2018 7:04 PM

I have some 18” stealth leaders, would those work ok? Or should I get some a little shorter?


They will work just fine
Sidejack
Posted 3/4/2018 9:35 PM (#895018 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Aurora
My opinion --> They'll werk good fer tails, swimbaits, and cranks but yewl need shorter fer jerks & gliders if you want um ta werk to the best of their ability.
Another one of my opinions --> Save yerself the heartbreak and use the flouro for hangin pictures.
tkuntz
Posted 3/5/2018 8:30 AM (#895035 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Waukee, IA
I don't like anything longer than 12" for casting. Up to 4' for trolling.
jvlast15
Posted 3/5/2018 8:33 AM (#895036 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Have any of you actually ever had flourocarbon over 100lbs break? I havent.
pigeontroller
Posted 3/5/2018 11:25 AM (#895059 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Ontario, Canada
Nothing wrong with HEAVY flourocarbon, as long as your not contacting hard bottom. I use 175#, I see no reason to go lighter. I like 12'' for casting. 3-6 feet for trolling. If your hitting bottom, especially rock, steel is the only way to go.
monsterlures
Posted 3/5/2018 11:36 AM (#895062 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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for me, i dont use fluro because it kinda seems illogcal to me
if fluro was tooth proof, you wouldn't need to use really heavy stuff to begin with.


now back to the original question, i feel like 16-18 inches gives you a safe margin in case a fish inhales a lure or hits too far in front of it


JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/5/2018 12:27 PM (#895065 - in reply to #895062)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





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Location: St. Lawrence River
monsterlures - 3/5/2018 12:36 PM

for me, i dont use fluro because it kinda seems illogcal to me
if fluro was tooth proof, you wouldn't need to use really heavy stuff to begin with.


now back to the original question, i feel like 16-18 inches gives you a safe margin in case a fish inhales a lure or hits too far in front of it




So by your logic, since steel is "tooth proof," you can go really light with it?
monsterlures
Posted 3/5/2018 12:46 PM (#895069 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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well yes

thats what a lot of perch guys in europe do when they fish places where they are likely to encounter a pike.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/5/2018 12:56 PM (#895071 - in reply to #895069)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





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Location: St. Lawrence River
monsterlures - 3/5/2018 1:46 PM

well yes

thats what a lot of perch guys in europe do when they fish places where they are likely to encounter a pike.


This is a little different..
BNelson
Posted 3/5/2018 1:41 PM (#895075 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





Location: Contrarian Island
12" of 180 fluoro.. been using that for 10 yrs or more. no issues..
for gliders I go with 10" of 180 fluoro solid ring on both ends.
Guitarbite
Posted 3/5/2018 2:25 PM (#895081 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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I cast for them most of the time, and I use 18" of 130# fluorocarbon. Muskie are not line-shy...... at all.
Landry
Posted 3/5/2018 5:12 PM (#895097 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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I find 18" too long for figure righting well.
pigeontroller
Posted 3/5/2018 5:39 PM (#895100 - in reply to #895097)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Ontario, Canada
Landry - 3/5/2018 6:12 PM

I find 18" too long for figure righting well.


Agreed! 12'' works nicely.
Tommis
Posted 3/5/2018 8:03 PM (#895123 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





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Location: Southwest PA
Another vote for 12" 130lb flouro

Although, as stated before, it definitely depends on what lure I'm working.
Reelwise
Posted 3/5/2018 9:29 PM (#895137 - in reply to #895036)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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jvlast15 - 3/5/2018 9:33 AM Have any of you actually ever had flourocarbon over 100lbs break? I havent.


Personally... no. Never had a fish bite through it, either... but, witnessed a fish inhale a Bulldawg and bite through 130 pound fluorocarbon.
true tiger tamer
Posted 3/5/2018 9:52 PM (#895140 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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I had a mid 40's muskie cut a brand new 100lb flouro leader. 12 inches is what I prefer for casting and I'm a fan of well made titanium, not the cheaply made Bass Pro, Terminator is my first choice. Soild wire works better for jerkbaits.
greyghost
Posted 3/5/2018 11:39 PM (#895149 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: RE: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Honor, MI
Several years ago i was using stranded wire and hooked a mid 40. Some how the fish
rolled and the wire got behind the gill plate. When I brought the fish in I was shocked to see that the wire took out one eyeball and half-way cut the head off! Since then nothing but #130 fluro: 18" casting, 36" trolling. No problemo.
Ciscokid82
Posted 3/6/2018 6:13 AM (#895155 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?





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Location: SE Wisc
Never had a problem with fluorocarbon, I make my own and cut them about 12”. I use 80# for small bucks/cranks/dawgs and 130# for larger lures. For gliders/jerks I use solid wire.
supertrollr
Posted 3/6/2018 8:23 AM (#895167 - in reply to #895036)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?


jvlast15 - 3/5/2018 8:33 AM

Have any of you actually ever had flourocarbon over 100lbs break? I havent.

100 lbs yes
pigeontroller
Posted 3/6/2018 9:51 AM (#895172 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Ontario, Canada
I see no advantage to using 80-130 # Fluorocarbon. Why not err on the heavy side? Use 175 or even 200 #
supertrollr
Posted 3/6/2018 10:10 AM (#895174 - in reply to #895172)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?


small cranks shallow cranks will move better.other than that there is no advantage at all
tkuntz
Posted 3/6/2018 12:28 PM (#895192 - in reply to #894980)
Subject: Re: Best all around leader length?




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Location: Waukee, IA
Fluoro isn't bite proof, steel kinks and breaks, titanium frays and breaks. No leader material is perfect. This debate is stupid, especially when the original topic was leader length.
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 3/6/2018 12:39 PM (#895193 - in reply to #894980)
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pigeontroller
Posted 3/6/2018 1:14 PM (#895195 - in reply to #894980)
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Location: Ontario, Canada
Actually debate is seldom stupid. Its a good way to learn, unless you know everything..?
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