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| How's it goin. Well Ive always used fluero leaders. Usually 80lb or 100,130 seagar. Now I don't know. This fish bit thru the leader like nothing. 1 day old 100 lb seagar, no knicks. And just in the net. My buddy that was with only uses homade seven strand. Has anybody seen a fish bite thru 220 lb? I still wanna use fluero but scared now. Especially for trolling.
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| Dont need to convince me. Rods big enough to catch sharks. Line strong enough to fly kites. Hooks sharp enough to penetrate bones and leaders soft enough to be cut in a tenth of a second. Hmmmmmmmm |
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Location: Ashland WI | Say hi to Adam for me. |
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Location: Eagan, MN | The description below the vid said it was mono?? Flouro would be tougher than mono. With that said, I've had two bite-off's over the past 20+ years using flouro...one on 80lb and one on a fresh 200lb flouro leader. However, prior to fishing with flouro, I lost fish on single strand, stiff wire, and multi-strand wire leaders. They are all imperfect in some form or fashion. Heck, I once had a giant break off when she jumped with her mouth open into the line and severed it above a brand new 12" steel leader when she hit the water with little/no line pressure. What leader material is going to guard against that? |
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Location: North Central IL USA | Vid description says it's mono... |
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| It doesn't look any higher than 80# in my mind either |
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| Tie whatever line you want, floro, mono, 100, 200 to something and pull hard on it. Now take a razor and push down on the line. Like butter. Now touch a muskie tooth with it and....snap. Bye bye. |
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| It's not mono it's fluero I'll change the description. I made the leader and that's me catching the fish. It's 100 lb seagar. Ok so no matter what they can break it all. Well I have yet to try the homemade seven strand on some gin clear water. If i catch fish on it that's it for me I think I'll stick with it. |
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| 4amuskie - 8/1/2017 9:28 AM
Dont need to convince me. Rods big enough to catch sharks. Line strong enough to fly kites. Hooks sharp enough to penetrate bones and leaders soft enough to be cut in a tenth of a second. Hmmmmmmmm
very good point,even if the 200 lbs leader from my friend have never been caught it's by far the weakest part |
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| why 7 strand wouldn't work? small crank usually work better with smaller diameter leader,and anyway you know the line is far to look clear and it's at less than 4 feet away from the lure so........... |
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| Forgot about that. I suppose would effect action on some cranks. Especially smaller ones |
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Location: Leech Lake, Walker MN | Use wire and forget about it ! |
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| I had a 130 lb fluro leader break on me and I switched to 100% wire for casting. I like wire better for all casting applications. I still use fluro to troll for rolling fish and use a small piece of wire near the swivel for bite off protection. |
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Location: Hayward, WI | Seems for years the recommendation was to use 130lb or more. I've been using 150 for quite a while now with no issues. Not to say it isn't impossible to be cut, but I've never had it close to being an issue.
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| Awesome thanks a lot guys. I'm gonna try some heavy fluero then for trolling and get some wire for casting. |
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Location: Minnesota. | DonPursch - 8/1/2017 12:17 PM
Use wire and forget about it !
Yep...period! |
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| I love to see one of you that seem to think you can cut fluorocarbon on a muskie tooth.. actually do it - would be entertaining  |
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Location: Ashland WI | IAJustin - 8/1/2017 1:45 PM
I love to see one of you that seem to think you can cut fluorocarbon on a muskie tooth.. actually do it - would be entertaining :)
Isn't that what he is showing in the video? |
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Location: New Hope MN | I keep a a sliced through fluro leader in my box as a reminder. Hooked a nice one on vermilion and she sliced through it. The water boiled for 5 seconds or so and my lure floated to the surface. I wonder how big she was...? |
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DonPursch - 8/1/2017 12:17 PM Use wire and forget about it ! YEP! Listen to what Don has to say. He has fished some of the clearest waters around. If he says use wire....Then do IT!!!! I've done my own tests and studies with floro VS wire on our local lakes, years ago, and simply caught more fish, & had more strikes on wire.....it was like 15 to 5 in a 30 day test. Wire is thinner, and if you get the AFW 49 strand, coated, or non coated, IT is just as flexible, maybe more flexible than the floro, so baits have better action. If your experience is showing you something, learn from it, and try something different. Nothing Ventured- Nothing Gained!!!! JD |
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| Awesome 49 strand it is. Never had a problem with fluero before , but there's the proof. Ide never forgive my self for the rest of my life if it happened again on a 50 plus. Lol. Good didn't really wanna risk fluero anymore. And thanks 14ledo81.Ya the fish cuts it in the video and it's in the description of this post maybe he didn't watch it.I hold it up to the camera. And I don't know who you are to tell adam ya said hi. I'm fishing with him tmrw |
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Location: Ashland WI | Martin79 - 8/1/2017 4:32 PM
Awesome 49 strand it is. Never had a problem with fluero before , but there's the proof. Ide never forgive my self for the rest of my life if it happened again on a 50 plus. Lol. Good didn't really wanna risk fluero anymore. And thanks 14ledo81.Ya the fish cuts it in the video and it's in the description of this post maybe he didn't watch it.I hold it up to the camera. And I don't know who you are to tell adam ya said hi. I'm fishing with him tmrw
I graduated high school with Adam. My name is Matt. He will know. |
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Location: Forest Lake, Mn. | Something to keep in mind here is that fluorocarbon is a relatively new material. Once upon a time it didn't exist and all there was was 7 strand and single strand solid wire leaders and people caught big fish. Just a thought.
Now they have tie able wire and that's fairly new too. |
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Location: North Central IL USA | jdsplasher - 8/1/2017 3:38 PM
if you get the AFW 49 strand, coated, or non coated, IT is more flexible than the floro, so baits have better action
What pound test? |
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Location: SE, WI. | gregk9 - 8/1/2017 9:40 PM jdsplasher - 8/1/2017 3:38 PM if you get the AFW 49 strand, coated, or non coated, IT is more flexible than the floro, so baits have better action What pound test? In SE Wisconsin I use mostly 40 lb. coated, also some 65lb coated, depending application.... Canada, where Rock is more prevalent, I use more 90lb, non- coated. JD |
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Location: North Central IL USA | jdsplasher - 8/1/2017 11:18 PM
In SE Wisconsin I use mostly 40 lb. coated, also some 65lb coated, depending application.... Canada, where Rock is more prevalent, I use more 90lb, non- coated. JD
This stuff? http://afwfishing.com/afw_products/Surflon_Micro_Supreme_Leader_Wir... |
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| Adam says hi Matt. |
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gregk9 - 8/1/2017 11:47 PM jdsplasher - 8/1/2017 11:18 PM In SE Wisconsin I use mostly 40 lb. coated, also some 65lb coated, depending application.... Canada, where Rock is more prevalent, I use more 90lb, non- coated. JD Yes, that's the wire. I go to Amazon, buy thru them.....a bit more reasonable. I buy the 100 meter. This stuff? http://afwfishing.com/afw_products/Surflon_Micro_Supreme_Leader_Wir... |
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| how the fish skin look when they roll at ur not coated wire leader?it happen to me one time she was rolling that crazy then she pass from fluro leader to monel line.fish was not looking great at all |
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Location: North Central IL USA | jdsplasher - 8/2/2017 6:34 AM
Amazon, buy thru them.....a bit more reasonable. I buy the 100 meter.
What knot are you use to tie to your terminal tackle? |
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