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Message Subject: Tranx 500
Musky 77
Posted 3/17/2017 3:20 PM (#853785)
Subject: Tranx 500




Posts: 54


Bought a Tranx hg, just wondering if I should fill spool all the way up?? Thanks
muskyhunter47
Posted 3/17/2017 3:37 PM (#853787 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 1638


Location: Minnesota
What are you going to use it for mine is for big rubber so full
kevinj
Posted 3/17/2017 4:29 PM (#853795 - in reply to #853787)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 473


I would not do it. the line slaps if fully spooled and causes backlashes.
keep it even with or just under the top of the level wind hole and you should be good
Its not like you are trying to cast 100 yards or will have a fish take that kind of line anyway
KJ
Musky Face
Posted 3/17/2017 5:44 PM (#853799 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 558


Fuller the spool is the more line per crank you get.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/17/2017 6:48 PM (#853808 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


I've never heard of anyone not filling their spools full. I overfill mine and pack it down the first use to make sure it's full.
Muskie Gal
Posted 3/17/2017 6:56 PM (#853811 - in reply to #853808)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




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Pat Hoolihan - 3/17/2017 6:48 PM

I've never heard of anyone not filling their spools full. I overfill mine and pack it down the first use to make sure it's full.


It changes the gearing....
Musky 77
Posted 3/17/2017 8:13 PM (#853825 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 54


I'm using it for burning blades.
NathanH
Posted 3/17/2017 8:14 PM (#853827 - in reply to #853808)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Posts: 859


Location: MN
Pat Hoolihan - 3/17/2017 6:48 PM

I've never heard of anyone not filling their spools full. I overfill mine and pack it down the first use to make sure it's full.


it's a thing I know a few guides who do this
Musky Face
Posted 3/17/2017 8:50 PM (#853832 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




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You want it full if your burning blades. If you fill it full you will get the 43 inches if line per crank, if you don't fill it all the way you will lose inches off per crank. Full spool is a happy spool.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/17/2017 8:51 PM (#853833 - in reply to #853811)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




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Muskie Gal - 3/17/2017 6:56 PM

Pat Hoolihan - 3/17/2017 6:48 PM

I've never heard of anyone not filling their spools full. I overfill mine and pack it down the first use to make sure it's full.


It changes the gearing....

How can it change the gearing without physically replacing the gears? All you're doing by not filling your spool is handicapping yourself and shortening you line intake per turn. Undetspooling your reel has no advantages.
BNelson
Posted 3/17/2017 9:22 PM (#853836 - in reply to #853833)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Location: Contrarian Island
I use my hg for burning and I fill it to about 7/8ths full.
Rudedog
Posted 3/17/2017 9:41 PM (#853837 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: RE: Tranx 500




Posts: 624


Location: S.W. WI
A reason you would fill it say... 3/4 full, is you get a PG type reel (30" per crank) while still having the HG model. A smaller spool is easier to crank, all other things equal.
I keep mine close to full all summer, Burning about 40", then drop it to 3/4 for fall, when I do not want the blades moving that fast.

for post below.... Well it makes a noticeable difference to me. I can feel it. I have tendinitis.
It makes it easier to reel hard pulling baits.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/17/2017 10:14 PM (#853839 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


I'm no engineer but I disagree with ^^^. I don't notice a difference in reeling difficulty based on spool diameter. If you want to slow the bait down, why not just slow your retrieve down?
Zinox
Posted 3/18/2017 3:40 AM (#853843 - in reply to #853837)
Subject: RE: Tranx 500




Posts: 1100


As a mechanical engineer i agree with the below.

Rudedog - 3/17/2017 9:41 PM

A reason you would fill it say... 3/4 full, is you get a PG type reel (30" per crank) while still having the HG model. A smaller spool is easier to crank, all other things equal.
I keep mine close to full all summer, Burning about 40", then drop it to 3/4 for fall, when I do not want the blades moving that fast.

for post below.... Well it makes a noticeable difference to me. I can feel it. I have tendinitis.
It makes it easier to reel hard pulling baits.
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/18/2017 8:37 AM (#853852 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


I can buy into that but I am still thinking that underspooling a reel has no benefits. If you want to make a HG into a PG by underspooling, why not just reel slower or buy another reel? What about those times that you need to go fast again and now you're stuck with a HG that can't deliver that? I'm not saying the guys who underspool are wrong in their thinking, I just can't see the merit in doing it.
BNelson
Posted 3/18/2017 8:53 AM (#853853 - in reply to #853852)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Location: Contrarian Island
Maybe try it ! ??
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/18/2017 9:15 AM (#853856 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


Id rather just buy another reel
BNelson
Posted 3/18/2017 9:51 AM (#853861 - in reply to #853856)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Location: Contrarian Island
What other reel will give you 40 per crank
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/18/2017 9:53 AM (#853862 - in reply to #853861)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


None for big blades but that's what I'm saying. Why would you buy a Tranx HG and underspool it and not take advantage of its capabilities? It makes no sense to me.
Zinox
Posted 3/18/2017 9:54 AM (#853863 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 1100


I think he refers to buying another reel that have a lover IPT then a TranX HG, to achieve the same thing as removing line.
Zinox
Posted 3/18/2017 9:57 AM (#853864 - in reply to #853862)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




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Pat Hoolihan - 3/18/2017 9:53 AM

None for big blades but that's what I'm saying. Why would you buy a Tranx HG and underspool it and not take advantage of its capabilities? It makes no sense to me.


Fishing for euro pikes, i generally fish a lot slower in the winter times, where i prefer a slower reel, to force me to fish slow. I could use my HG and remove the backing line, instead of buying two reels.

With that beeing said, i have waay more than two reels and way more reels than i need.
Musky 77
Posted 3/18/2017 10:45 AM (#853867 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




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Thank you everyone for the input!!
anzomcik
Posted 3/18/2017 11:49 AM (#853870 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





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Pat hoolihan if you were torn between a tranx HG and tranx pg and only had $500 to spend which one would you buy.

So on the pg you max ipt is like 34" or something. Only way to get the bait in quicker is cranking like a banshee. So you drop $500 on a reel you may not like due to lack of speed.

On the other hand if you bought the HG and say you did not how quick it brings in line, instead of being stuck with a $500 reel you can reduce IPT by removing line to where you find it suitable for your fishing.

In other words you can make a HG into a PG but can't make a PG into a HG on the cheap. That's why it is appealing to some people. It may not be the way you would do it but it's an effective way to get desired results with out breaking the bank.
upnortdave
Posted 3/18/2017 12:39 PM (#853874 - in reply to #853870)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 668


Location: mercer wi
Sound like people need 3 reels. A pg, a half full hg, and a full hg. Then every base is covered. This conversation is all about splitting hairs. The bodes of water I fish, I've never seen a major preferance towards a bait moving 10" quicker. People are over thinking this fish
Zinox
Posted 3/18/2017 12:59 PM (#853878 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 1100


If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing :D
Pat Hoolihan
Posted 3/18/2017 1:02 PM (#853880 - in reply to #853870)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 386


anzomcik - 3/18/2017 11:49 AM

Pat hoolihan if you were torn between a tranx HG and tranx pg and only had $500 to spend which one would you buy.

So on the pg you max ipt is like 34" or something. Only way to get the bait in quicker is cranking like a banshee. So you drop $500 on a reel you may not like due to lack of speed.

On the other hand if you bought the HG and say you did not how quick it brings in line, instead of being stuck with a $500 reel you can reduce IPT by removing line to where you find it suitable for your fishing.

In other words you can make a HG into a PG but can't make a PG into a HG on the cheap. That's why it is appealing to some people. It may not be the way you would do it but it's an effective way to get desired results with out breaking the bank.


I would buy the PG over the HG because I prefer the ease of reeling in bigger baits over the additional speed the HG gives me, but I own both and use the PG the vast majority of the time. I actually hardly ever use the HG for 10's and bigger but it really shines with 9's and 8's and my style of fishing. But I also don't spend $500 for a Tranx.
anzomcik
Posted 3/18/2017 2:07 PM (#853891 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Posts: 531


Pat, awesome. I wrote you that post to explain the thoughts behind the partially spooled tranx. You mentioned several times you were not sure of the line of thinking and seemed confused on the topic. Did my post help you understand why a person would go the partially filled spool could be an advantage? Even if it something you would not do yourself.
Rudedog
Posted 3/18/2017 11:12 PM (#853964 - in reply to #853874)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 624


Location: S.W. WI
upnortdave - 3/18/2017 12:39 PM

Sound like people need 3 reels. A pg, a half full hg, and a full hg. Then every base is covered. This conversation is all about splitting hairs. The bodes of water I fish, I've never seen a major preferance towards a bait moving 10" quicker. People are over thinking this fish


Actually, I only need 1 Tranx- as I stated. It works for me. I have other reels that do 30" per crank.
also- I will grant you there is no preference of lure speed most times. Even so- I will get 25% more casts than if I was using a slower reel for blades. More casts = more opportunity sometimes- actually most times.
I seen this first hand some years back when my boat partner was getting 4-5 casts in to my 3. He kicked my butt from the back of the boat behind me on LOW.

edit in- Brad, (below reply)= what I should have said was;
.... let's just say (for arguments sake) that there is no preference of lure speed most times......
BNelson
Posted 3/19/2017 8:41 AM (#853988 - in reply to #853785)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500





Location: Contrarian Island
I had my tranx filled to the rim, I used it and then backed it off a little to about 7/8 full and to me, it felt like I could bring them in just as fast with less effort... to the statement above that lure speed doesn't matter most times... 100% disagree.... look how guys that troll watch their speed and then hone in on the speed they get hits... if lure speed didn't matter then all trollers would putt putt around at 2mph... speed of our bucktails is a big trigger... at times they want it slow rolled, and others going as fast (or faster) than we can reel...
upnortdave
Posted 3/19/2017 9:14 AM (#853992 - in reply to #853988)
Subject: Re: Tranx 500




Posts: 668


Location: mercer wi
I understand that speed may be a factor on SOME bodies of water. I said on the bodies I fish I haven't seen a major preforance either way. I fish a lot of dark water not much clear. I've out fished the guy burning bait 9 out of 10 times. I fish slower.
I understand the other comment abut the guy getting 5 extra casts on a spot, buty belief is if their not good cast it doesn't matter how many more you get in.
My original post was more of a joke because people are taking about 20-30 extra yards on their reels.
Either way people can do what their COMFIDENT in.
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