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| Which Shimano Tranx are you puchasing this year and for what purpose???
I have almost pulled the trigger on the Tranx 500 several times but size and $$$ kept me from doing so. However I think I'll pick up a low gear 400 size this year for reeling in big blades. I'm also thinking of adding another one for "all purpose". Maybe I would go with the high gear on that....
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| If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc. |
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Location: Minnesota | I'll be picking up a 400 pg for small blades .I have the Tranx 500 in the Pg and HG best big blades reel on the market. Yes the 500 is a big reel but once you get use to it the size don't matter and I'm a small guy. |
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| musky513 - 2/14/2017 8:12 PM
If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc.
People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet... |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Northern Falls - 2/15/2017 2:33 PM
musky513 - 2/14/2017 8:12 PM
If you want to throw big blades get a 500 pg. The size of the 400 make me think it will be more of an all purpose reel for topwater, small blades, twitch/crank baits, etc.
People seem to really like the lexa 400 for big blades....why assume the 400 Tranx wouldn't be able to handle the job? Plus it would be a lot lighter on the wallet...
The Lexa 400 is huge and the Tranx 400 is not. Do not be fooled by 2 different brands advertising different reels as "400" series. They are not the same. I'm sure the Tranx 400 lower gear would do blades fine. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | The 500 HG pulls 10s a lot faster than the PG... PG to me is sort of a waste of money for blades imo as I'd rather have 1 HG and reel is faster or slower to attain the speed desired.. |
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| I'm getting the 500 series PG...primarily for big blades. It comes highly recommended by two guides that I fish with. When asked about the PG versus the HG, both said the same thing. .....I can reel plenty fast enough with the PG.
If I threw more dogs, I'd look at the HG, but I don't so I'll do the PG.
The Shimano reps seemed to think that the 400 series is a great all around reel and will do 8's and 9's perfectly. 10's will be okay, but that is where the 500 series shines. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | what is 'plenty fast'?..at times the faster the better, you simply can't make a pg reel them in as fast as an HG..I've stood next to guys with PGs and we both cast, my bucktail is to the boat 30% faster than theirs.... upgraded longer handle on the HG it is even better...the PG simply doesn't bring them in as fast as the HG...I don't care what 2 guides said what, I know a thing or 2 about big fish and one thing to remember...speed kills...it's like trolling 2.5 mph...well sometimes they want it 3.5 mph
reminds of the time I was in the boat with a "big name" green bay guide and he thought he was burning his 10s in with his Revo Winch...no lie there. 
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Location: Wisconsin | I'd say the 400 is closer in size to most other companies 300 or 50 size reels. With the 300 almost like a larger size bass reel. Just talking physical size here. I'm going to be purchasing the high speed 400 for plastics this year. Really like how both reels felt at last weeks show. The 400 is way smaller than either the 500 or Lexa 400 for that matter. Tom |
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| I have a couple of both Tranx 500's. The HG is without a doubt a game changer for burning blades. If you really push yourself with that reel you will catch more fish. I don't like doing it so I put my buddy in the front of my boat and he rolls. The PG is a good reel for night fishing blades where you want to slow down but you can get away with many reels for that. I can't wait until people start dumping the big Tranx for cheap! Or if your Nellie you have 10 of everything  One thing I will add is put one of those pistol grips on your bucktail burning rod and you will buy me drinks forever after you use it a summer. Best new/newer product I found a couple years ago and I can't believe everyone does not have them. |
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| Had a 500PG. Don't see why the 400 standard wouldn't work just fine for big blades. One of the main reasons I got rid of the 500PG was because it was so powerful that I'd lose "touch" with 10's. Couldn't tell if they were fouled or not. 9's were hopeless. Went to a beast and I can feel the blades again.
I'm getting a 400std for sure, and possibly a 500HG or 400HG as well for rubber. |
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| BNelson - 2/15/2017 5:03 PM
what is 'plenty fast'?..at times the faster the better, you simply can't make a pg reel them in as fast as an HG..I've stood next to guys with PGs and we both cast, my bucktail is to the boat 30% faster than theirs.... upgraded longer handle on the HG it is even better...the PG simply doesn't bring them in as fast as the HG...I don't care what 2 guides said what, I know a thing or 2 about big fish and one thing to remember...speed kills...it's like trolling 2.5 mph...well sometimes they want it 3.5 mph
reminds of the time I was in the boat with a "big name" green bay guide and he thought he was burning his 10s in with his Revo Winch...no lie there.
Plenty fast is fast enough to satisfy the fisherman who is triggering strikes for himself and his clients.
Their opinions differ from yours. No biggee. But I've seen this response from you before, and it is odd.
I've done my research, I'm going PG all the way. I know that isn't popular with you, but it isn't your money. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | why is it odd? think outside the box...ask anyone that trolls... how is casting any different? a guy trolling his lure at 2.5 some days might get 2 hits while the guy troling his lure at 3.5 gets 4...would you buy a kicker motor that could only go 2.5mph? or one that can go faster? duh, it's not that hard to comprehend to me...faster can mean more hits...take it or leave it,,,,I personally want the reel that brings them in as fast as possible as some days that will mean more fish in the boat.... just cuz someone is a 'guide' doesn't mean they are always right. yes it's not my money buy whatever you want, just telling you the HG can reel them in faster which will mean more hits when speed is the trigger...
the big name 'guide' on green bay thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch til he stood next to me with my HG and you could see the lightbulb (dim at that) go off in his head when he saw the speed mine were coming in....
just giving you something to think about... pg is a waste if you want real speed.
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Location: Shawano, Wi | Curious as to how the Revo Toro Rocket will compare to the Tranx HG on pulling in those blades. |
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| I own both the PG and the HG. I cannot think of a time where I would want the PG over the HG for size 10 or smaller blades. The HG does everything the PG does for that size of bait, plus it adds speed to your arsenal. Why wouldn't you want that?
Slow Rolling after dark is one blade presentation where I wouldn't choose the HG. However, I prefer a 400D for that role as even the PG is bit too fast for my liking when fishing that presentation.
For me the PG is a niche reel. It's most consistent use in my boat is when I'm tossing 13s a lot. Another good place for it is twitching big baits like 14" jakes. The torque of the reel can give action to the bait with ease, saving your body from the abuse. Beyond that, there just are not too many places where the HG isn't as good or better. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I have a rocket... HG is still faster and easier. but you might want to ask those 2 'guides' that Vegas talked to first, cuz what do I know! |
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| I have one 500PG and two 500HG's in the boat, the PG only get used on #13's at night. Other than that it's a good spare, I would get some time on the water and use both before you make a decision. If you make it to central Minnesota, I will take you out so you can try both, that way you can make the decision for yourself. |
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Location: Shawano, Wi | I have a Revo toro rocket the only reason I went with that over the HG was the price I was able to pick one up for a little bit more than 200. I also have a PG it may not be as fast as a HG but its so effortless to pull in blades that a 12 hour day you don't feel any fatigue from casting and cranking in those blades with the longer power handle. If I do want to burn 10's ill just take a abuse from the Rocket. But for $300 less lol. |
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Location: Minnesota | I'm in the other side I like my PG for blades over my HG just easier for me might not work for you but it works for me and that is all that matters. I look at it like this going up a hill on a bike I'm going to use a lower gear easer for me.if you have legs that can go up a hill in high gear great I'm not going to tell you it's easer in low gear |
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Location: Contrarian Island | 100% agree, use what is easiest but it's not an opinion that that HG will bring them in faster, it's fact.. that's all I'm saying... pg is 'easier' because they simply are not coming in as fast..that can not be debated.. use whatever you want, but I am 100% sure at times faster is better.... |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | My PG is going on the market this year, so I can get an HG. Specifically for big blades. A small core , whose opinions I value, maintain the added speed has put more fish in their boat |
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Location: Shawano, Wi | You can close to the same speed of the HG with other reels that cost less. But there is no other reel on the market that has the power like the PG does. |
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| BNelson - 2/16/2017 8:50 AM
I have a rocket... HG is still faster and easier. but you might want to ask those 2 'guides' that Vegas talked to first, cuz what do I know! ;)
Those "guides" put more fish and bigger fish in the boat than you can imagine. And they fish for a living doing what you do as a fun past time.
Don't be so quick to judge a guide. You can disagree, but there is a fine line between disagreeing and looking like an arrogant fool.
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So does the guide on Green Bay that thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch... what does that tell ya??
My results for the hours I put in are pretty solid...guides are on the water about 3 x more hrs than I am...so they should catch more right?
what guides were they?
so answer my question, are you gonna put a kicker on your boat that can only push your boat at 2.5 mph??? |
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| Buy a Hg put an ljv handle on and you own one amazing reel!!! |
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| BNelson - 2/16/2017 9:35 AM
So does the guide on Green Bay that thought he was reeling his 10s in fast with his winch... what does that tell ya??
My results for the hours I put in are pretty solid...guides are on the water about 3 x more hrs than I am...so they should catch more right?
what guides were they?
so answer my question, are you gonna put a kicker on your boat that can only push your boat at 2.5 mph???
It is funny to me that you think it was Green Bay guides....
My kicker goes a lot faster than that. And the point the guides were making was simple....you can reel the PG plenty fast to boil a bait out of the water, which means in your analogy, their kicker is going much faster than 2.5 mph.
About your only point that makes sense is that speed gets fish to bite. You are right. I'll even give you this point...you can achieve high end speed quicker and easier with the HG than you can the PG. But that doesn't mean that you cannot get the PG to move baits fast enough to trigger strikes as well.
And yes, the guides that I fish with are professionals and put a lot more fish in the boat than you. I know their numbers and somehow you spoke to someone about your numbers through December...and they were impressive, but they weren't what those guides were hitting. |
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| Don't try and argue with brad he is the best and knows everything. Just ask him. |
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Location: St. Lawrence River | Mdamp104 - 2/16/2017 9:59 AM
I have a Revo toro rocket the only reason I went with that over the HG was the price I was able to pick one up for a little bit more than 200. I also have a PG it may not be as fast as a HG but its so effortless to pull in blades that a 12 hour day you don't feel any fatigue from casting and cranking in those blades with the longer power handle. If I do want to burn 10's ill just take a abuse from the Rocket. But for $300 less lol.
You will not enjoy speed fishing double 10's with a rocket. Your reel will most likely not enjoy it, either. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | well good for them, they are on the water about every day, they should catch a lot more per season. duh! ..and I'm not argueing with anyone (figure 8) if you look thru this thread there are many others that agree w me as well... it's pretty funny to me when guys come on here and try to use other ppls opinions as their own and with lack of actual results to back up those opinions. Me, I come on here with facts and the results that back up what I say...take it or leave it...as usual, the many m1st experts that catch 1 or 2 fish over 45" a year seem to know more than the rest of us who actually catch big fish regularly...comical.
Vegas looks to me you have 3 over 45 since 2010..? well last year in my boat I had 10 x that number..but don't listen to me, listen to your guide buddies, they clearly know more.
.. fact is, an HG can reel them faster... that's not an opinion.
If I ever wondered why so many of the guys that catch a lot of big fish don't or stopped posting on this site, this thread is a perfect answer....
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Location: Ashland WI | Don't worry about it Brad.
I appreciate hearing what you have to say. |
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