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Hi guys, somebody boosted my 2 nd pair of Knipiks hook cutters.Need to order another pair.Has anyone Tried Williamson's.Can get them for about 36.00.
Williamson WDLC8 Double Leverage Cutter.
Any info apppreciated,
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Location: Detroit River | I've never heard of Williams cutters but Chad's Toolbox has Knipex starting at $39 & up depending on which model you want. |
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| Yep. Knipex 8" mini-bolt cutters are easily found on the internet for $42 (or less) with free shipping. No need to try and save $5 and get something that probably won't cut 7/0's very well, at least not for very long... Knipex are the only way to go -IMO. |
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| The kobalt brand Lowe's has works fine, 14.99 I believe. I've cut every hook out there with em |
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Location: Waukee, IA | newmuskyz - 7/13/2016 12:21 PM
The kobalt brand Lowe's has works fine, 14.99 I believe. I've cut every hook out there with em
Careful, man. People around here are Knipex Zealots, they'll darn near shout you down for saying that a cheap pair works. I guess all the hooks I cut with my $8 Tool Shop cutters must have been flukes |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | tkuntz - 7/13/2016 1:17 PM
newmuskyz - 7/13/2016 12:21 PM
The kobalt brand Lowe's has works fine, 14.99 I believe. I've cut every hook out there with em
Careful, man. People around here are Knipex Nazis, they'll darn near shout you down for saying that a cheap pair works. I guess all the hooks I cut with my $8 Tool Shop cutters must have been flukes
i'm sure they handle bullhead hooks just fine ... |
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| Nothing wrong with knipex, they're great. But not everyone can or chooses to drop 35$ on cutters. Options are always good. I have both myself, keep em in my shop and boat. But that being said, I don't have a cool TM name or 10,000 posts on here, so I obviously do not know what I'm talking about  |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | if you can't afford $35 it's the wrong sport for you ... that is unless you speak for the financial power of the musky community. |
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| It's not about what someone can afford or not. If a man chooses to musky fish with a 54$ setup in a canoe and asks about proper release tools, I'd rather he have a cheaper pair with him than none at all; better for the fish, better for everyone. The fish don't give a flying @#$# about brand names, and they don't read reviews. There is nothing wrong with providing options across the board that are effective, for anglers of all spectrums. I'm not a member of a fishing community that I know of, just a guy who fishes alot. I didn't know when I started years ago that I was in the wrong sport when I got my harbor freight cutters. I still use them too. If someone would have told me I would have worked overtime and got the knipex first. Think of all the fish I missed. Hind sight is always 20/20.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i'd rather he have a good pair that gets the job done quick and easy ... even better for the fish and everyone. the rest of your drama is good with coffee this morning. |
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| Had my coffee 4hrs ago, I'm working already |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | me too ... just got to my office, out training pups 4 hours ago. both working hard i see ...
when i saw the reference to World War II War Criminals i always wonder if people are stupid or just ignorant. that was the purpose of my first post. |
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| I am curious if anyone has done an actual test of hook cutters, in a controlled, scientific manner. It would be fairly simple to have four or five different units, cut large hooks a given number of times, measuring force required and then examine the cutting edges. I have a Lowe's bolt cutter and a side cutter from Channel Lock with a compound action.
I have read posts where folks claim a side cutter can't do the job but I cut a 10D nail easily several times, then took a spare 7/0 hook and cut that easily as well. Examined the cutting edges with a magnifying glass and it had no nicks, deformation. I have used it to cut hooks in fish as well.
We have any mechanical engineering students here looking for a simple lab experiment? |
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Location: Wisconsin | jonnysled - 7/14/2016 8:06 AM
me too ... just got to my office, out training pups 4 hours ago. both working hard i see ...
when i saw the reference to World War II War Criminals i always wonder if people are stupid or just ignorant. that was the purpose of my first post.
By definition i believe it was used in correct context. It never ceases to amaze me at the mentality of so many " outdoors men". Some people simply cannot resist the opportunity to be a dick.
zealot
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Location: MN | https://www.grainger.com/product/6CCJ2?gclid=CjwKEAjw8Jy8BRCE0pOC9qz...
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Location: Alex or Alek? |
Make sure you have an extra battery, you don't want it to run out on a fish
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Location: MN | For that kind of money should come with a forever battery..... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | dirtybird - 7/14/2016 12:36 PM
jonnysled - 7/14/2016 8:06 AM
me too ... just got to my office, out training pups 4 hours ago. both working hard i see ...
when i saw the reference to World War II War Criminals i always wonder if people are stupid or just ignorant. that was the purpose of my first post.
By definition i believe it was used in correct context. It never ceases to amaze me at the mentality of so many " outdoors men". Some people simply cannot resist the opportunity to be a dick.
zealot
noun [ C ] UK /'zel.?t/ US /'zel.?t/
a person who has very strong opinions about something, and tries to make other people have them too:
by most paradigms of history and social injustice there is never a correct context to feign a reference ... unless you're ignorant of it's context.
you may not have read the original reference ... it's left only in the quote and was rightfully changed in the original post by the moderator.
signed ... the dick |
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| You should trademark that signature....
Sorry, couldn't resist...put on another pot of coffee..... |
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| I usually take people's opinions for what they cost here unless I know the source.
On this, I'd trust popular opinion.
"Crap I should have spent the extra money and bought Knipex" = not a lesson you want to learn the hard way. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | newmuskyz - 7/14/2016 1:46 PM
You should trademark that signature....
Sorry, couldn't resist...put on another pot of coffee.....
touche'
how's work goin'? |
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Location: Detroit River | North of 8 - 7/14/2016 12:59 PM I am curious if anyone has done an actual test of hook cutters, in a controlled, scientific manner. It would be fairly simple to have four or five different units, cut large hooks a given number of times, measuring force required and then examine the cutting edges. I have a Lowe's bolt cutter and a side cutter from Channel Lock with a compound action. I have read posts where folks claim a side cutter can't do the job but I cut a 10D nail easily several times, then took a spare 7/0 hook and cut that easily as well. Examined the cutting edges with a magnifying glass and it had no nicks, deformation. I have used it to cut hooks in fish as well. We have any mechanical engineering students here looking for a simple lab experiment? My first cutters were the cheap $10 Lowe's bolt cutters & I always had to use 2 hands to cut hooks, where as with the Knipex it's a 1 hand operation. Also the Lowe's bolt cutters were only good for 5 or 6 hooks before it became completely useless due to the sharp edge of the cutter becoming dull & dented. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | zealot ... |
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| Again, my post was about someone actually doing an objective test of a variety of bolt cutters, such as the Williamson, along with Knipex and others. Also, the cutting tests that I mentioned were not with the Lowe's bolt cutter, but rather the compound action Channel Lock side cutter. Not trying to talk anyone into buying anything or saying one brand is better than another, just pointing out it would be nice to have a report on cutters based on objective testing data. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | i did some liberal arts style research looking at various other boards on fishing that are not specific and searching "the best hook cutters" ... my research concludes that there is an overwhelming number of fishermen who are knipex zealots. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | jonnysled - 7/14/2016 4:10 PM
i did some liberal arts style research looking at various other boards on fishing that are not specific and searching "the best hook cutters" ... my research concludes that there is an overwhelming number of fishermen who are knipex zealots.
How dare you go to other fishing boards?
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Location: Waukee, IA | You might as well call me out by name, jonnysled, just to eliminate confusion. No offense intended by my original comment, just really tired of being ridiculed for not using knipex. I'm not doubting their quality, I just dont need them. If you do, great! |
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| Hi all. I did a little research on bolt cutters after my second pair of Knipex we swiped.I just got home from Lowes and bought their Kobalt 8 inch bolt cutters.I brought a Mustad 6 awg extra treble hook with me to store to test.(Mustad Standard Treble Hook (3551). I took cutters out of the package.Cut the # 6 hook 6 times and then cut the shank.As easy as my knipex and maybe easier with no damage to cutters.I was stunned. 14.00 out the door and lifetime replacement warranty.I'm German but sorry. I'll save the Deutsh marks.Model # is 0464628. I got a pic if you need one.PM me.
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| jonnysled - 7/14/2016 4:10 PM
i did some liberal arts style research looking at various other boards on fishing that are not specific and searching "the best hook cutters" ... my research concludes that there is an overwhelming number of fishermen who are knipex zealots.
You may also be a board zealot.
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Location: minocqua, wi. | newmuskyz - 7/15/2016 5:16 AM
jonnysled - 7/14/2016 4:10 PM
i did some liberal arts style research looking at various other boards on fishing that are not specific and searching "the best hook cutters" ... my research concludes that there is an overwhelming number of fishermen who are knipex zealots.
You may also be a board zealot.
better than television ...
kuntz with a k ... you really feel ridiculed? ... did you try going to the safe space? |
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