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| muski_n00b |
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Posts: 42 Location: North MN | I started muskie fishing at the end of last year. Ive easily muskie fished over 150+ hours with little to show for it. To be exact, ive had one lazy follow while my buddy caught one our first time out. Ill be the first to admit Im a beginner and have lots to learn. Muskie fishing is one of my passions and you can routinely find me fishing a local lake everynight after work alone for a few hours. Tonight I went out and on about my 7th cast I felt something hit my line that Ive never felt before. I was bringing in a Spankys custom 10's with some speed. I knew it was a muskie right away. When I got it to the boat I couldnt believe my eyes. It was massive. Easily over 50 inches I couldnt believe how thick its back was. I grabbed my Big Kahuna and failed miserably on the first attempt. The fish went on three powerful runs underneath the boat and I almost clipped my Big Nasty on the trolling motor. I waited a bit to net it again but the fish wouldnt fit in it. I realized then I was in trouble and would need to net it head first. After two more smaller runs I got it boatside again and hit it with the net but failed to net it. The fish went crazy, went on a run and snapped my leader. I watched it swim away with my spankys hanging out the side of his mouth. I was on an adrenaline high for about 20 minutes but after that went away a feeling came over me that I cant shake. I love fishing but I took off for the boat launch right away as the last thing I feel like doing is fishing. My question is how do you move on after losing the fish of a lifetime. I have spent so much time on the water and even more time reading forums or any other information I can on muskie fishing. It took me about a year to finally hook one. Its so hard knowing I finally had one on ..... and it was huge. Its devastating to know I may have to wait another year to hook into another one. I cant even imagine fishing right now. How do I get over this and how do I find the motivation to fish after this? Im also really worried about the fish since the lure is in her mouth. It was hanging out the side though so I hope shes ok. Sorry for the lengthy post I needed to vent. Texted my walleye buddies and other friends but no one understands. http://i.imgur.com/LdOqqq8.jpg Edited by muski_n00b 6/27/2016 8:41 PM | ||
| Jeff78 |
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Posts: 1660 Location: central Wisconsin | I'd quit if you think that after a whole 150 hours of fishing you have already lost the fish of a lifetime, your words. It's gonna be all downhill from there. It's a tough sport with very few rewards if you only count fish in the net. PS you should net fish headfirst. And to me, a Big Kahuna together with a nine foot rod is a recipe for disaster. Good story though. | ||
| Booch |
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Posts: 310 | It is a bummer, but 150 hours in this sport really isn't a lot. I think the fish knew you were not worthy, yet. | ||
| muski_n00b |
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Posts: 42 Location: North MN | Not gonna quit... I love muskie fishing. But I see your point. Its just tough knowing more than likely I wont get an opportunity like this for a long long time. | ||
| Pointerpride102 |
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Posts: 16632 Location: The desert | You need a smaller net for fishing solo. Always net the fish head first. Plenty to learn yet, just keep casting and enjoy it. The heartbreak is part of what makes this hobby fun. | ||
| detroithardcore |
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Posts: 299 | I know many guys, including myself that have gone 100+ hours before actually consistently catching fish. With Muskie fishing (actually all fishing) your gonna lose fish from time to time. I just lost a giant yesterday. It happens to everyone but what really matters is how you bounce back from it! I feel your pain but I can promise you if you fish enough your gonna have lots of heartbreaks. That's just how the sport goes! Muskie's are naturally lower density species on most waters and they can be some of the most finicky fish on the planet so be prepared for tough fishing most days. None of us can answer your question. Your answer will come from your actions. Either you quit, move on to another hobby/sport or you pick your head up and get back out there. Most fisherman chase fish cause it's in our blood. We're so passionate about fishing that we truly enjoy time on the water. The best Muskie fisherman are the stubborn guys who don't know when to put the rod down. They just keep casting! If you need a story to motivate you well I fished yesterday. I lost a 50" fish. Was upset and frustrated! I picked myself up and kept casting. 30 minutes later I landed a 51" fish. True story! Never give up if you truly want it! | ||
| Propster |
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Posts: 1901 Location: MN | If you will fish alone on a regular basis, regardless whether you go with a lighter (or slightly smaller) net, get a Robo Handle for it and use it. Amazing the leverage it will give you in moving the net around decisively when you need to. If the first fish you ever would have caught was a monster, what makes you think the next one won't be? | ||
| Booch |
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Posts: 310 | muski_n00b - 6/27/2016 9:09 PM Not gonna quit... I love muskie fishing. But I see your point. Its just tough knowing more than likely I wont get an opportunity like this for a long long time. Why not? Give it a few days or so and try her again when the conditions are the same. Edited by Booch 6/27/2016 9:35 PM | ||
| cedarstrip |
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Posts: 52 | Never get upset over lost fish. 99 things out of 100 had to go right to hook the fish and get it to the boat. Those 99 things are positives with only one negative. A window is open, shake it off and get the next one! | ||
| fish4musky1 |
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Location: Northern Wisconsin | muski_n00b - 6/27/2016 8:36 PM My question is how do you move on after losing the fish of a lifetime. http://i.imgur.com/LdOqqq8.jpg Stop using flouro leaders and keep fishing. There have been quite a few posts about loosing a big fish due to a failed flouro leader. Unfortunately they have been hyped up enough by many guides and big names in the muskie world that everyone seems to use them now. | ||
| esoxaddict |
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Posts: 8863 | First thing you need to do is buy better leaders. Second thing.... 150 hours. It's long been said, whether it's a hobby or a job or a career, that it takes 10,000 hours to become "good" at something. When I started out, I had a period of 15 days, guided no less, without as much as a crack at a fish. When you have 150 days under your belt, what happened today will seem trivial. Third thing... Easily 50"... I think we all encountered a LOT of 50's our first few seasons, even in places where they don't live. You missed a fish. Crap happens. | ||
| degenerate_fisherman |
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Posts: 3 | I would just fish for walleye...... | ||
| T3clay |
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Posts: 770 | need a confidence booster? go fish with a more experienced angler. watch listen and learn. always a confidence booster for me. | ||
| FAT-SKI |
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Posts: 1358 Location: Lake "y" cause lake"x" got over fished | Hey man, don't be to hard on yourself. Losing fish is just part of it, losing big fish hurts a little more but again is just part of it. Over the past two season (last year and the year before) I lost something like 27 fish straight (can't remember I have been trying to block it out, and one was a fish of a "lifetime") ..... Until I caught my first 50 at 51.5". But the two straight seasons of all those lost fish I seriously considered hanging it up. I was so frustrated its not even funny. But, lets be honest for a second. If you wanted an easy task you probably would have focused on becoming a more skilled bass or Walleye guy right? But what's the fun in that? Not nearly as challenging or rewarding. So we continue to go out tossing over and over and over until you literally need some type of upper or lower arm surgery (been there). I hate to say it, but that wont be the last big fish you loose, there are bound to be many many more. Hopefully though, you will catch a few in the middle of loosing a few. Helps keep you going. And if you are like me, lose 27 straight and know there is a bright 50" light at the end of the tunnel. Pick yourself up, get over the feeling and get back to casting as soon as you can. P.S. have fun, its just fishing | ||
| jaultman |
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Posts: 1828 | A few thoughts: 1. Consider how cool it is/was to have such a huge fish hooked up. Good job. 2. Sounds like you need practice netting fish. Fish with a partner! Another way to practice is go bass or pike fishing with light spinning gear and net every fish with your big kahuna. Force yourself to land them head first. You'll get good at it way faster than by only trying it once every 150 hours. 3. It's pretty tough landing big fish by yourself, ESPECIALLY when you've never landed a musky at all. Fish with a partner! 4. I don't think that net is necessarily too big, so long as you are tough and have had lots of practice netting fish. The latter is definitely not the case, so see #2 and #3. 5. I've lost two fish in the last three years due to equipment failure. One leader snap failed (no apparent sign of flaw before the failure) and one line snap (again, no warning signals). It really sucks to leave a big musky bait stuck in their mouth, but I think they have a great chance at throwing it as long as it wasn't deep-throat-hooked. 6. Others disagree but I think 150 hours is a REALLY long time to go without catching a fish. Fish with an experienced partner! and/or try some different water. 7. You could definitely have another good shot at that fish, even this summer. Where do you live? I might have helpful tips. | ||
| Brad P |
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Posts: 833 | Part of this sport is getting scars. The key is to learn from them and move on. Big lesson here is the solo net needs to be something you can handle on your own as was pointed out above. I second the above recommendation of going out with a seasoned angler and learning from them. This is a sport where every detail matters and even the smallest mistake can cost you fish. Don't get down on yourself, just be honest about the issues and solve them. | ||
| whynot |
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Posts: 897 | Don't worry about it, you got to enjoy everything except the pics. Happens when you fish alone. I've botched a couple net jobs on big fish...both resulted in broken lures. I do think you need to look at better leaders. Doesn't look like anything snapped, looks like the crimp failed. Buy Stealth flouro leaders, 130# or greater. | ||
| Shellback |
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Posts: 10 | I've never caught a musky, but I do a lot of snook/tarpon fishing and I lose more big fish than I land. For me it depends on how they're lost. *Cut/abraded leader - "oh well, that kinda sucks." *pulled hook - "gosh darn it." *broken/bent hook - "*%@!, *#@%!!!!!!" *bad knot - possible ritualistic suicide/seppuku. | ||
| muski_n00b |
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Posts: 42 Location: North MN | Thanks for all the responses and advice. After sleeping on it and thinking about it all night I've realized I'm more hooked than before. I love casting and there isn't another species of fish in the lake that will give me a rush like that. I've also realized this same exact scenario will play out again if I don't get better with my net. A Big Kahuna is a large net to fish solo with but I made the choice when I started fishing muskies to fish trophy waters so it seems necessary. Everything I've read suggested a Big Kahuna for waters where 50+ inch fish are common. After doing some research on the forums I also ordered 10 Stealth leaders last night. I shouldn't have been fishing with the brand of leaders I broke since I knew they were crap when the same thing happened on a backlash. Fishing with a partner would be nice but unfortunately it's not always going to happen. It's hard to convince people to come fishing when you know you won't see a fish 9/10 times (not true muskie fishermen). When I go on fishing trips and weekend trips I'm not fishing alone but I like getting out on the water a few hours almost every night (I live on a lake). I'd also like some advice on getting into a boat or networking with seasoned anglers. I know this would improve my fishing ability more than anything and I'm definitely striving to get better. I live in Duluth, Minnesota. Any fishing advice for surrounding waters would be greatly appreciated. I'll also share the information I have. I'm going to take the positives from this and use the negatives to make sure it doesn't happen again. I'm going out on the dock tonight and gonna get use to moving the Big Kahuna around in the water with one hand. Looking back on it, I was foolish to think the muskie was gonna just hop into the net. I'm looking forward to getting back on the water! | ||
| RandalB |
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Posts: 470 | If you are planning on fishing solo a lot (I do..) you may want to consider the Frabil 9530 for a net. Light, easy to use and handles 50+" Fish no problem. Other than that, Sucks to lose a large fish like that one, but there will be more. No such thing as a negative experience if you learn a lession from it. Keep grinding and do your research, you'll be ahead of the curve in no time. RandalB | ||
| Propster |
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Posts: 1901 Location: MN | Get your butt up to Vermillion just an hour up the road and learn that lake. | ||
| Mike madden |
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Posts: 7 | All I can say is just keep casting! Last year my first hookup of the season was a high 40" fish and my gf botched the net job and it swam off I had the same feeling and was driving back to the launch, then my gf said just keep casting mike I know you will catch one. Zoomed 100 yards down the weed line and no more than 5 casts later I landed a 46"! My bad feeling went away immediately. Then the next day I landed my first 50 by myself with a big kahuna no joke! It will come together just get out on the lake and you will become a better more experienced angler. | ||
| bucknuts |
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Posts: 441 | I fish by myself, also. I used the Big Kahuna and switched to a smaller frabill. It was lighter, but the fish's fins were getting ripped up in the net. They didn't have enough room. I went back to the Big Kahuna, and replaced the heavy bag with a lighter one. I also put one of those pistol grip handles on the net. Both changes made a big difference in being able to swing the net. | ||
| JakeStCroixSkis |
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Posts: 1425 Location: St. Lawrence River | Get out there and fish. Jeesh. | ||
| muski_n00b |
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Posts: 42 Location: North MN | I primarily fish Leech Lake and Vermillion. Only waters nearby worth fishing are the St Louis River. | ||
| T3clay |
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Posts: 770 | consider yourself lucky to have lakes like that nearby. I have to travel 2 or more hours to hit the edge of musky territory. | ||
| ToddM |
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Posts: 20278 Location: oswego, il | JakeStCroixSkis - 6/28/2016 11:47 AM Get out there and fish. Jeesh. This ^^^Leave the drama out of it. | ||
| Muskydanno621 |
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Posts: 92 | no worries. I fish leech almost exclusively and every stinking weekend from june to november. Got to jump back on the horse eventually you will get another opportunity! Thats the way it goes in this sport. its not always about catching the fish its about the hunt for me. Catching is great when it happens and is validation of the hard work you put in to that point. Just enjoy the chase there will be highs and lows thats what this sport is all about!! Dan | ||
| timhutson1 |
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Posts: 251 | I second the robo-handle or what ever it is called. A must for fishing trophy waters alone. And Don't beat yourself up over it. I have netted fish that I should have lost, looked back at GoPro video and said WTF was I doing? It is all a learning experience. As someone else said, you will either decide all of this frustration is worth it or you will find a different hobby. Either is fine. | ||
| Hammskie |
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Posts: 697 Location: Minnetonka | I can feel your pain, Matt. Thanks for posting this. The feeling of losing a big one when you have her within your grasp is heartbreaking. The fact that you mentioned it here will make it easier and the only thing that will get you past the feeling is time... and more time on the water. In my experience, the only thing that fades the heartbreak is creating a great new memory or bunch of memories. Some of the ones from 5-10 years ago still sting, but I've learned that everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be. The lost fish have taught me how to be a better angler whether it means buying better leaders, not rushing the net job, checking for nicks in the line guides, buying rods that don't explode on the hookset etc. and all these things have burned me on big fish. More importantly though, these failures have taught me acceptance—something I've found valuable as a muskie angler. Good luck in the future and keep grinding (with Stealth Leaders). | ||
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