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Location: Minnesota | New regs on the lake this year musky fishermen can fish at night but all baits live or artificial must be 8 inches or longer . How long are Jr cow girls . I have a lot of baits in my boat that are not 8 inches or biger. Then on a side note all walleyes are catch and release only no live bait . |
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Location: Contrarian Island | I don't think that is correct, at least the wording I saw doesn't say musky anglers can't use artificials smaller than 8"..
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Location: Elk River, MN | Ultimately it's not going to affect your ability to use muskie lures. Yes some baits might not be quite 8" but its easy to identify a muskie bait, and the Officers out there know that. If you've got a bucket full of blades and giant baits they won't write you up for having a 6" kickin minnow on the boat.
What i'm interested in is the outcome of this catch and release only season. Maybe if the Walleyes start coming back there will be a little less ammo to use blaming the Muskies for everything. |
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| Put a teaser tail on em if the are not 8"
A low test wire leader and small swivel and blade will do. |
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Location: Elk River, MN | The 8" minimum is in regards to night fishing, as there is a Night ban on walleye fishing all together
From the DNR site:
Night closure: Night closure beginning Monday, May 16, from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. and continuing through Thursday, Dec. 1. Muskellunge anglers may fish at night but all baits, live or artificial, in possession must be at least 8 inches long.
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| artificials don't have to be 8" |
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Location: Minnesota | Yes all baits live or artificial must be 8 inches at night. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I don't think that you have to worry about it. If you get checked and they see you've got a muskie net and are using muskie rods I don't think you're going to have a problem. Now if you're using a 7' spinning rod and a #7 shad rap you may have some explaining to do. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Depends on the CO. If it were me, I'd only bring 8" baits or longer just to be safe. Some are sticklers |
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Location: deephaven mn | QUOTE:
What i'm interested in is the outcome of this catch and release only season. Maybe if the Walleyes start coming back there will be a little less ammo to use blaming the Muskies for everything.
walleyes are coming back, lot's of smaller fish 10"-11"-12" fish caught and released through out the ice season, oddly bigger fish seemed to be a little less common
Edited by kap 3/21/2016 7:01 PM
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | Muskie Treats - 3/21/2016 12:29 PM
I don't think that you have to worry about it. If you get checked and they see you've got a muskie net and are using muskie rods I don't think you're going to have a problem. Now if you're using a 7' spinning rod and a #7 shad rap you may have some explaining to do. Good luck with that. Tell that to the warden out of Garrison as he's digging through your boat. |
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Location: Elk River, Minnesota | jchiggins - 3/21/2016 7:04 PM
Good luck with that. Tell that to the warden out of Garrison as he's digging through your boat.
I believe no game warden is going to have the right to go through your boat to see if you have a bait shorter than 6 inches. That would be unethical on their part for citing you for carrying a bait below the minimum and you are not using it. They could only cite you if you were using it.... Any CO who would pull that would be spending a huge amount of time in court trying to explain how having a bait in posession is illegal to have aboard the boat.
The key here is use... It must be in use to be in violation...
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| I thought it was no live bait smaller than 8 inches can be used. |
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Location: The desert | VMS - 3/21/2016 7:49 PM
jchiggins - 3/21/2016 7:04 PM
Good luck with that. Tell that to the warden out of Garrison as he's digging through your boat.
I believe no game warden is going to have the right to go through your boat to see if you have a bait shorter than 6 inches. That would be unethical on their part for citing you for carrying a bait below the minimum and you are not using it. They could only cite you if you were using it.... Any CO who would pull that would be spending a huge amount of time in court trying to explain how having a bait in posession is illegal to have aboard the boat.
The key here is use... It must be in use to be in violation...
Steve
Pretty much agree.....although I'd argue the CO wouldn't spend a ton of time in court because the judge would toss it out pretty quick.
Most of the CO's I know use a pretty common sense approach. Contrary to some belief, most of them aren't out there to wreck your day (or night). |
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Location: Minnesota. | I just got pizzed off all over again hearing about Mille Lacs and the walleyes. Hope this same crap doesn't happen to the "V" eventually.
I'll go now!
5-4-3-2.......dammit!!!!!!! |
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| Leech is going to be bumper boats on walleye opener, also winni. No good. |
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Location: new richmond, wi. & isle, mn | VMS - 3/21/2016 7:49 PM
jchiggins - 3/21/2016 7:04 PM
Good luck with that. Tell that to the warden out of Garrison as he's digging through your boat.
I believe no game warden is going to have the right to go through your boat to see if you have a bait shorter than 6 inches. That would be unethical on their part for citing you for carrying a bait below the minimum and you are not using it. They could only cite you if you were using it.... Any CO who would pull that would be spending a huge amount of time in court trying to explain how having a bait in posession is illegal to have aboard the boat.
The key here is use... It must be in use to be in violation...
Steve Steve the key is"possession".They do ask if they can look in your compartments. Not sure what happens if you say no.This was at the landing coming in at night. I had no tackle boxes in the boat. Just a few baits on the deck. |
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Location: Tomahawk, WI | From the DNR Regs- Muskellunge anglers may fish at night but all baits, live or artificial, in possession must be at least 8 inches long.
It says "in possession" , not "in use". Possession means in your boat while on the water. If its in your boat while on the water, they can write you a ticket. Will they? who knows, but they can do it. If you want to take the risk, go ahead but dont go off crying because you tried to put your own spin on the regulations and lost.
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | What is the best bump board for bait measurement when preparing to fish Mille Lacs ? |
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Location: Minnetonka | Mille Lacs means 1,000 Lakes in French. It's misspelled in the title of this thread.
Artificial bait only: Anglers may use only artificial bait. They may not possess any other bait that is live, dead, frozen or processed. Artificial bait such as Gulp is allowed. Only anglers targeting northern pike and muskellunge may possess and use sucker minnows longer than 8 inches.
Night closure: Night closure beginning Monday, May 16, from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. and continuing through Thursday, Dec. 1. Muskellunge anglers may fish at night but all baits, live or artificial, in possession must be at least 8 inches long. |
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Location: St Paul, Minnesota | "Possession" is a tricky word, but in my interpretation of it I apply it to all live bait used for pike and musky, and all lures IN USE during the 10:00pm to 6:00 am periods. I think common sense should prevail here fellas.
Scenario 1) I'm fishing from 5:00am to noon for musky. From 5:00am to 6:00am I'm going to make sure that all lures in use, and visible on my deck are over 8 inches long. After 6:00am I should be free to pull out any baits smaller that I may want to use.
Scenario 2) I'm a multi-species angler. I spend the daylight hours fishing smallmouth and once the prime-time evening hours hit I put away all my bass gear and start casting for musky. I'm free to use any musky lure until 10:00pm, and after which time, I need to put away all my smaller lures and only toss my 8inch lures and longer.
In both scenarios there's lures smaller than 8 inches in my possession, but not in use. I can't see any logical and/or semi-reasonable Conservation Officer trying to ticket me for having smaller lures in my possession so long as those lures are not in use, and especially if those lures are not readily available. My boat is an extension of my tackle box, and I'm not going to run all the way across the pond to sort and store all my smaller lures in my truck, and I don't expect the CO's to expect you to either.
-C7
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | banditman - 3/22/2016 6:55 AM
If you want to take the risk, go ahead but dont go off crying because you tried to put your own spin on the regulations and lost.
Well said. |
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Location: Otsego, MN | Does anyone use baits smaller than 8" on Mille Lacs? Last time I checked a pounder was much larger...
On a more serious note, just as any rule put out by the DNR its interpretation is up to the individual and one can choose to follow it or not. There are very clear rules about possession limits, yet some individuals go out and blatantly disobey and I am sure there will be people abusing this rule and those individuals face the repercussions when they are caught or turned in by 1-800-TIPLINE. Just don't complain if you get cited for a violation because your interpretation is different than the CO's. Minimize what gear you need in the boat prior to the trip and if you plan on doing multispecies you need to accept the fact you have put yourself in a position to be ticketed if the CO believes you are in the wrong. Is this any different than the old rule of sucker fishing in WI? |
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Location: Metro | Espy - 3/21/2016 11:53 AM
Ultimately it's not going to affect your ability to use muskie lures. Yes some baits might not be quite 8" but its easy to identify a muskie bait, and the Officers out there know that. If you've got a bucket full of blades and giant baits they won't write you up for having a 6" kickin minnow on the boat.
I completely agree with this statement. The DNR uses their brain when they are talking to you about that kind of stuff. If it looks like you are fishing for musky you shouldn't have an issue. Just don't have a bunch of walleye stuff in the boat for them to think otherwise.
Its unfortunate the lake had to get to this point but it doesn't help when you have people netting the whole lake. Its kinda hard to keep things normal when you take that many fish out of the lake unnaturally. |
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Location: MN | Unnaturally? Their harvest has traditionally been less than angling harvest. I'm against netting, but just sayin'. |
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| "Its unfortunate the lake had to get to this point but it doesn't help when you have people netting the whole lake. Its kinda hard to keep things normal when you take that many fish out of the lake unnaturally."
Netting and hook and line are both unnatural ways to remove fish from a lake, as is spearing. Natural removal would be predation, old age, etc.
A complete catch and release season seems like a pretty legit way to lessen the harvest. The catch and kill crowd probably won't love it, until they can go back to catching and killing and complaining about the lack of walleyes because the muskies ate them all... ?? |
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Location: deephaven mn | it used to be when the night fishing ban is in action, you were breaking the law if you had a fishing pole in your boat after dark. |
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| Guys, Seriously in possession is a legal term of art, not subject to interpretation. Possession of illegal drugs is not related to whether you are using it or not. Illegal possession of alcohol by a minor doesn't imply that they are using it, just the fact that it is in the car is enough. Do what you want, but don't expect that any judge in Minnesota will agree with your personal interpretation. |
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| There are times when trying as hard as you can to the convince the "warden" why what you claimed to be 8 inches only looks like 5, they refuse to believe. From my experience in these situations, it helps to start with a really nice dinner in Garrison and a nice bottle of wine first. Then try saying, "It's not the size of the bait, but what a really creative angler can make it do in the water." Often, it's just a matter of talking these things through quietly and reasonably. Better than making it hard on yourself, that's for sure! |
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Location: MN | You slay me Marty |
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