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Message Subject: Muskies in MN...but for how long???
Brett Waldera
Posted 2/12/2016 11:42 AM (#804397)
Subject: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 108


This was copied from the Pelican Lake Property Owners Newsletter. If you care at all about muskie fishing in MN...you need to make your voice heard...this anti-muskie push has been gaining momentum the last year and it is not going away.


Stop Stocking Muskie Update
The Stop Stocking Muskies in Minnesota campaign continues to gain momentum. Dave Majkrzak reports that the effort has been endorsed by numerous lake associations, townships, chambers of commerce and cities. A group of PLPOA members concerned about the muskie issue have embarked on a campaign of sending emails, letters and otherwise attempting to contact Governor Dayton and Lt Governor Smith to step in and support this cause. If you would like to join this group and be brought up to date with current issues, please email PLPOA.

I originally thought this issue would smolder after a few months and go away...despite the effort to educate the masses that muskies co-habitat with other fish species and have for hundreds of years...the general public who don't fish do not care to hear the facts. We need voices heard!!! There is a huge push in MN right now to eliminate future stocking...this is new and existing muskie waters.

I will try to find the emails to Governor Dayton and Governor Smith...cuz if they are receiving emails from the "antis" but not those who support the program I am afraid we are doomed.

Thanks for your support!!!
Brett Waldera
thescottith
Posted 2/12/2016 2:00 PM (#804440 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: RE: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 444


http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/

I sent an email. If I can locate his office # I will also call him.
This is total BS


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BNelson
Posted 2/12/2016 2:18 PM (#804445 - in reply to #804440)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Location: Contrarian Island
you'd think the gov't would realize the $$ Millions of dollars of tourism money that comes into the state from musky guys ...
that alone should put an end to the anti's!

Edited by BNelson 2/12/2016 2:19 PM
Pepper
Posted 2/12/2016 2:23 PM (#804448 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 1516


I wonder which townships, champers of commerce and cities have endorsed the stop stacking muskies campaign.

Maybe we should all join the lake association so we can be brought up to date on the current issues.
horsehunter
Posted 2/12/2016 3:24 PM (#804464 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Location: Eastern Ontario
Do these lakes have any natural recruitment? Ontario stopped stocking muskies in the early 90's with the exception of trying to revive historical populations in Lake Simcoe and the Spanish River. My home lake was last stocked in 1972 and with catch and release and increased size limits the fishing is better than it ever was with probably 4 times the anglers we had 25 or 30 years ago. I'm also thinking that global warming will favour muskies over pike but that's a personal opinion with no scientific backing.

Edited by horsehunter 2/12/2016 3:25 PM
Nershi
Posted 2/12/2016 3:37 PM (#804468 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Location: MN
You would think these cities and chamber of commerce's would be taking a look at it from a economic impact point of view. Does anyone know which cities and chambers are supporting this? I know I saw Perham Chamber in a previous article but haven't seen any others. I think the businesses that receive tourism money from muskie fisherman that come to their area to fish should be notified of the stance their chamber of commerce and city took on the issue.

I know I would be upset if I owned a hotel, motel, resort, gas station, bait shop, campground, restaurant etc etc in this area and my city and chamber of commerce were trying to eliminate part of my annual revenue.

Chambers are supposed to support local businesses right? This seems counterproductive. Eliminating the muskie fisheries in these communities is certainly not going to attract any more tourists to the area, quite the opposite actually.

Edited by Nershi 2/12/2016 3:44 PM
Brett Waldera
Posted 2/12/2016 4:00 PM (#804472 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 108


The Ottertail County Commission has requested a 5 year moratorium on muskie stocking after meeting with this group.
The DNR plan to have announced an additional lake has been put on hold after this anti group has gotten things stirred up.
The Fairmont City Council has also take action to disapprove stocking in that area.

You will see something happen this year on a bill go through...I anticipate that...and I don't think musky anglers will be happy either. We need to keep our ears open and make sure we let politicians know how many of us are concerned about muskies in MN. I don't even live in MN...but I spend too much time in MN to not be concerned and I guarantee those involved in the process to discontinue muskie stocking will know who I am if they don't already.
I appreciate every one of you who send an email...you have a choice to stand up for something you are passionate about, or do nothing...if you choose the latter...don't whine when what exists now is lost.

Commissioner Landwher should also be copied on any correspondence...he is going to be paramount on the status of the MN muskie program moving forward.

Thanks again for your support!

Brett Waldera
happy hooker
Posted 2/12/2016 6:27 PM (#804505 - in reply to #804472)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 3156


How much of this now is ego!!! Drivin by that rich idiot on pelican???
He absolutely got his a## handed to him by the turnout at the public input meeting and then he got his a## handed to him by the dnr reps and data.
How can the council/commission not see what took place there and still go.along with this?

Edited by happy hooker 2/12/2016 7:11 PM
JakeStCroixSkis
Posted 2/16/2016 11:51 PM (#805180 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 1425


Location: St. Lawrence River
Stupidest thing I've ever heard. I'm very irritated by this whole phenomena for you guys. I too would like to know who supports this nonsense so when I go to MN to fish muskies I know where and where not to spend my money.
ToddM
Posted 2/17/2016 7:19 AM (#805197 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 20248


Location: oswego, il
This is a bad precedent one that could affect all fish stocking in the state and the DNR should make that clear to everyone attached to this anti musky petition.
raftman
Posted 2/17/2016 8:18 AM (#805209 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 576


Location: WI
Looks like the antis have everything they need in today's political environment.
1) money
2) irrational, uninformed fears
3) general public looking for scapegoat for beloved Mille Lacs walleye fishery
BNelson
Posted 2/17/2016 8:51 AM (#805220 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Location: Contrarian Island
everyone that fishes muskies should take the 2 minutes to email the Governor and Lt Governor... I did... don't sit on the sidelines and drop them a simple email showing your support for musky stocking in MN

http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/

Edited by BNelson 2/17/2016 8:52 AM
NathanH
Posted 2/17/2016 9:12 AM (#805225 - in reply to #805220)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 859


Location: MN
Make no mistake this will be a war of attrition. I'm not sure if the Muskies inc still has a lobbyist at the capital but if not we need that re established.
gtp888
Posted 2/17/2016 9:38 AM (#805226 - in reply to #805209)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Location: Sun Prairie, WI

raftman - 2/17/2016 8:18 AM Looks like the antis have everything they need in today's political environment. 1) money 2) irrational, uninformed fears 3) general public looking for scapegoat for beloved Mille Lacs walleye fishery

Yup.  Anti's = low information voters!  

Brett Waldera
Posted 2/17/2016 10:15 AM (#805233 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 108


Where are the MN guys? Surely someone knows more than I do about what is going on politically over there in regards to the muskie stocking program? From what I am hearing...muskie enthusiasts are going to need to fight this year to protect what is currently in place for stocking in MN...let alone future stocking programs!!

It concerns me that there is this strong anti-muskie campaign going on with no counter support from the muskie fishermen!

Those who have sent an email...thanks for the support!!

Brett Waldera

Larry Ramsell
Posted 2/17/2016 10:21 AM (#805234 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 1296


Location: Hayward, Wisconsin
NathanH: Muskies, Inc. has NEVER has a lobbyist at the capital or anywhere else. They are a 501 c3 non-profit organization and as such prohibited from lobbying.
MuskieFever
Posted 2/17/2016 10:21 AM (#805236 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 572


Location: Maplewood, MN
Done! The more support the better. Even if you don't fish in MN, this could happen in your state!
NathanH
Posted 2/17/2016 10:28 AM (#805238 - in reply to #805234)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 859


Location: MN
I thought during our club meeting there was talk of having a rep as we worked to pass the new min length requirement. But I may have miss heard.
Espy
Posted 2/17/2016 10:48 AM (#805244 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 323


Location: Elk River, MN
MN muskie fisherman do have a lobbyist and I believe its through the Minnesota Muskie & Pike Alliance
NathanH
Posted 2/17/2016 11:16 AM (#805247 - in reply to #805244)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 859


Location: MN
Ok I thought we had something going.
Nershi
Posted 2/17/2016 11:34 AM (#805250 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Location: MN
I sent my email to governor goofy. I think it would be beneficial to send a copy of your email you send to the governor to Tom Landwehr the DNR commissioner. [email protected]

Thanks for the thread Brett!
Masqui-ninja
Posted 2/17/2016 11:42 AM (#805252 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 1271


Location: Walker, MN
Done. Let's make our voices heard! http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/
Actually far from done but it's a great starting point.
short STRIKE
Posted 2/17/2016 11:50 AM (#805254 - in reply to #805252)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 470


Location: Blaine, MN
takes just a couple minutes to send the letter, make a copy and copy/paste your letter to anyone that will listen.
tundrawalker00
Posted 2/17/2016 11:54 AM (#805255 - in reply to #805252)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 504


Location: Ludington, MI
This is scary as hell. This is bigger than muskies, bigger than Minnesota, bigger than fishing. If the uninformed mob mentality decides to bull rush our DNRs, we're all in trouble. Take the time to take someone else fishing. Although MI does not have a lobbyist, is there anything to prevent it having a "legislative day" in every state where reps are taken on fishing trips? I know salmon groups have done that on the Great Lakes.
jwegs
Posted 2/17/2016 12:05 PM (#805256 - in reply to #805255)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 164


Location: Twin Cities
Letter sent!
ARmuskyaddict
Posted 2/17/2016 12:39 PM (#805258 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 2026


I'm just wondering if I really should have called him Gov. Goofy now... Letter sent
MuskyMatt71
Posted 2/17/2016 1:33 PM (#805273 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: Re: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 141


Location: Minnetonka
“There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the latter ignorance.”
- Hippocrates

Please take literally two minutes to do this...


Edited by MuskyMatt71 2/17/2016 1:33 PM
musky-skunk
Posted 2/18/2016 9:05 AM (#805395 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: RE: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 785


Emails sent, this is a frustrating issue. Multiple lakes that would have made amazing musky fisheries have been rejected in recent years due to political pressure. As bad as that is having existing musky lakes coming under attack is something we simply can not sit back and ignore.
short STRIKE
Posted 2/19/2016 12:56 PM (#805578 - in reply to #805395)
Subject: RE: Muskies in MN...but for how long???





Posts: 470


Location: Blaine, MN
Interesting look at the PLPOA P&L sheet... they have spent over 16k on Muskie related issues, and not $.01 was allocated to Sport fishing stocking or AIS in 2015... their priorities are clearly outlined in their financial. Their argument is probably why stock fish that will just be eaten by Muskies!!

http://www.pelicanlakemn.org/Information/2015%20PLPOA%20FINANCIALS0...

Edited by short STRIKE 2/19/2016 1:24 PM
Kelako
Posted 2/19/2016 1:12 PM (#805580 - in reply to #804397)
Subject: RE: Muskies in MN...but for how long???




Posts: 4


Letter sent, I hope everyone takes 2 minutes to do this! Thanks for bringing up the topic on this forum BW!!
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