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Posts: 116 | Musky fishing interest peaked over ten years ago in Aug 2004 according to Google trends. https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=musky%20fishing Compare to Pfefferspray trends https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=pfefferspray I for one am happy to have less Musky fishermen around but I am not in the industry. Also Google trends is a crude tool to interest. Thoughts? | ||
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I've seen a steady increase in the metro year after year. As a whole, perhaps a decline? | |||
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Posts: 1209 | I believe to see an increase in ND/MN | ||
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Posts: 859 Location: MN | Mn seams busy. When I go back to northern WI I get annoyed when I see someone else. Most of the time I don't see any other Muskie guys. | ||
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That's really just the trends in the number of Google searches for the term "musky fishing" over time, and has no real tie to how many musky anglers there are from year to year. You get different results if you look for the trends for "muskie fishing". | |||
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Posts: 1901 Location: MN | curdmudgeon - 1/21/2016 8:20 AM I for one am happy to have less Musky fishermen around but I am not in the industry. Also Google trends is a crude tool to interest. Thoughts? That's a two-edged sword really. I am not in the industry either, but there is no question that without the popularity and increased participation, none of us would enjoy quite the improvements and offerings that have been made in equipment, let alone the increased stocking, and the voice that comes from numbers when it comes time to fight for something for our sport. On a selfish note sure I'd rather have the lake all to myself, but at what cost? | ||
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![]() Location: Sawyer County, WI | Musky fishing vs. "pfefferspray" ? I'm not sure you chose an appropriate topic of comparison to support your point unless we can expect a large influx of muskies immigrating to North America and harassing the female population at New Years celebrations. One interesting point though is that the intra-year trend peaks for the topic "musky fishing" occur during the summer. I would have expected the peaks to be in the middle of full blown winternet. | ||
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | Musky fishing in decline? I wish!If that were the case I wouldn't see more musky boats out every time I fish LSC.
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Posts: 1000 | I can honestly say that the only reason why i don't see any more musky anglers on the metro lakes i fish than previous years is because the boat launch is completely full. If everyone who did this somewhat seriously got involved in muskies inc, we'd be able to double the stocking effort in MN. | ||
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Posts: 20192 Location: oswego, il | Fisherman follow hot bites, even though it may be in decline more of them will flock to places like lsc and MN lakes that are producing and producing big fish. | ||
Zib![]() |
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | ToddM - 1/21/2016 2:19 PM Fisherman follow hot bites, even though it may be in decline more of them will flock to places like lsc and MN lakes that are producing and producing big fish.
LSC just doesn't have the out-state guys crowding spots, there's a LOT more local guys getting into musky that didn't fish for them 2 or 3 years ago. Some of the local fishing sites have a good dozen or more guys every year ask about getting into musky fishing. Hell there's a couple on new guys guiding musky on LSC that didn't fish for them 3 years ago.
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Posts: 400 Location: Metro | I would say there is going to be an increase in the metro area. People of my age that are into fishing like going for the biggest and baddest fish out there. But that is just my honest opinion. I would hope that google is wrong. | ||
Landry![]() |
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Posts: 1023 | Edit Edited by Landry 1/21/2016 3:47 PM | ||
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Posts: 58 Location: South Elgin | All it takes is observing the ages of the people walking the aisles at any given Fishing Show. Spent the better part of two days at the Chicago Musky Show and four days at the All Canada Show this past weekend and I can with great certainty say that the average age of show goers is 50+. I'm not in the business of predicting, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if fishing trade shows will be non-existent in 20 years from now. I've watched fishing magazines go from 125 pages to 70. I would happily be wrong, but I don't see the interest from enough younger people to keep a lot of the industry afloat. Musky anglers are dying faster than they are replaced...hot bites will always skew the perception. Sure bass fishing will always be because its still a staple of the south, but us northerners are just not passing the torch as our fathers and grandfathers had. My opinion. | ||
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Posts: 1023 | I agree. Hot bites concentrate people. I do believe fishing is on the decline. But population growth may negate this | ||
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Posts: 239 Location: Madison, WI | J_mich - 1/21/2016 3:44 PM All it takes is observing the ages of the people walking the aisles at any given Fishing Show. Spent the better part of two days at the Chicago Musky Show and four days at the All Canada Show this past weekend and I can with great certainty say that the average age of show goers is 50+. I'm not in the business of predicting, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if fishing trade shows will be non-existent in 20 years from now. I've watched fishing magazines go from 125 pages to 70. I would happily be wrong, but I don't see the interest from enough younger people to keep a lot of the industry afloat. Musky anglers are dying faster than they are replaced...hot bites will always skew the perception. Sure bass fishing will always be because its still a staple of the south, but us northerners are just not passing the torch as our fathers and grandfathers had. My opinion. As a 24 year old in the sport i've wondered this as well. Even at muskie inc meetings I don't often see guys my age. i wish i had a few muskie buddies my age but I sure love fishing with you old fogies that have 10-20-30 years of experience. Lots to learn from you all! | ||
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Posts: 239 Location: Madison, WI | _ Edited by johnsonaaro2 1/21/2016 4:03 PM | ||
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Posts: 8746 | When I joined M.I. I noticed the same thing - I was one of the youngest guys in the room at our club meetings. Now after many years, there are a few guys popping up who are younger, but by and large most of the crowd is still older than me. It's the same at the shows. Unless you grew up fishing, it's not something a normal kid would want to get into these days. Unless you can do it on your phone... | ||
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![]() Location: Sawyer County, WI | Zib - 1/21/2016 12:57 PM Musky fishing in decline? I wish!If that were the case I wouldn't see more musky boats out every time I fish LSC.
That's because the host of the fishing show named the lake. ![]() | ||
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Posts: 16632 Location: The desert | Chemi - 1/21/2016 9:57 AM That's really just the trends in the number of Google searches for the term "musky fishing" over time, and has no real tie to how many musky anglers there are from year to year. You get different results if you look for the trends for "muskie fishing". Bingo. | ||
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I only went to one show last year, in Wausau, but I thought that had a pretty good mix of ages. The lake I live on is a Class A musky lake and I see a pretty good number of 20 and 30 somethings fishing for musky. Same thing when I volunteer at the boat landing, a mix of ages of those putting in and going out for muskies. One thing that might reduce the number of younger anglers at weekend shows is how many dads are hauling kids to sporting events on the weekends. By the time you are in your fifties, that has pretty well been there/done that. | |||
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Posts: 1220 | I don't think the number of pages in a fishing magazine down by a third means a thing about the sport. All print publications are down, whether it's Playboy or your daily newspaper. In our case, we still have one great musky mag, but we used to have two. People are just carrying their reading material around on a little machine in their pocket. Some get their news right here on M1, (if Steve is out yanking crappies instead of posts ??) I think the sport is growing, it's just skewed because the recession took down everything like a low tide. I've been fishing salt water for a month and there's plenty here to fight like the dickens on the end of the line, but back home in the musky range there is simply nothing like our fish. Naturally, without proper management and stocking investment we will fish ourselves out of a species. But, if we don't let it get mishandled...it'll grow plenty! | ||
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Posts: 32833 Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Muskie angling is one of the segments still growing. Crappies too. | ||
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Posts: 861 Location: NE Ohio | NOT IN OHIO | ||
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Posts: 1529 | I feel its just regional shifts. Canada with the lower dollar will have many more guest coming this year. | ||
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Posts: 18 | More and fancier boats at the angle every year | ||
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Posts: 1220 | If you pull up to launch at Young's Bay early enough on a Saturday morning in July (before the previous week's guys are leaving) you can drive around the biggest parking lot I know of and have trouble finding a spot to park your rig. This year, with gas a third of what it was, I expect LOTW, LSC and my favorite tournaments to explode. I predict this same thread next winter is going to be guys who say they're quitting because it's just too darn crowded out there. I've got this all figured out, when I finally win a big tournament, I'm gonna be the first one to actually get the maximum payout that's on the posters with the dreaded asterix and the words, "with a full field." I watched the Thrilla-in-Mannila and I'm going to rope-a-dope them guys and they'll never see it coming. | ||
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Location: MN | sworrall - 1/22/2016 1:12 AM Muskie angling is one of the segments still growing. This is what I've heard and it sure seems like it, in MN anyway. It's a pain having the pressure at certain times or on certain lakes but we wouldn't have as much support from our DNR if our numbers were shrinking. | ||
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Posts: 66 | That's why I prefer fishing Wisconsin -- not because I think it's gonna produce a world record but because there are so many lakes to choose from. As great a fishery as Minnesota may be, there just aren't that many options and therefore every musky lake is busy. | ||
Zib![]() |
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Posts: 1405 Location: Detroit River | dfkiii - 1/21/2016 5:51 PM Zib - 1/21/2016 12:57 PM That's because the host of the fishing show named the lake. ;-)Musky fishing in decline? I wish!If that were the case I wouldn't see more musky boats out every time I fish LSC.
Which show? I know of at least 8 different fishing shows that filmed musky segments on LSC all within the last 5 years. I remember when Musky Hunter did one of their first shows on LSC, Mike Hulbert fished with Jim & they never mentioned the name of the lake. Bass Pro Shops also shot there before the Next Bite was on the air. Pete Mania & Keith K. shot a show on LSC & I don't remember them naming the lake. I think some of these shows purposely exposed LSC to either help relieve some of the pressure on other lakes or to just help sell their sponsor's baits (I vote for the later).
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