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 Location: Sawyer County, WI | North of 8 - 1/15/2016 8:38 AM One thought, as someone living on a lake in northern WI, I don't think I have ever heard anyone in our association complain about boat traffic from fishermen. Now, PWCs would be a different matter. Like the clown that rented a cottage and every day would take the PWC out and spin circles about 50 yards off shore for 15 to 30 minutes at a time. It was one of the old two strokes and you could not hear yourself think it was so loud. I figure he liked to be dizzy. But fishermen? Never heard a complaint about too many fishermen. Someone did express concern that competitors in the Hodag tournament were going to crash some day racing across the lake I live on trying to be the first to the bridge and then first to get down the river and onto the next lake. It used to be quite the sight, 3 or 4 boats going top speed, essentially playing chicken, seeing who would back off first, given that only one could pass under the bridge at a time. Haven't seen that it a while. Like North of 8 wrote, there isn't much concern about fishermen or the associated boat traffic. Thankfully most of the folks out fishing are looking for a quieter, wilderness experience and don't blast "Slayer" or "Death Metal for the Mentally Impaired" over their boat sound systems. I've heard a few Brewers or Packers games on, but it wasn't so loud that I was troubled by it. If I were really bothered by it I could always mow the lawn or run the leaf blower/chain saw. It's amazing how guys can blast heavy metal music in their boats but the sound of yard machinery gets them moving pretty quickly.  Most of the people who come by our place are pretty cool and either hurry by when they see we are outdoors or are simply exchange a friendly greeting. I'll occasionally ask how they're doing and will offer up info (yes, including spots) if they are particularly nice. Then again you have the jack@sses who bounce lures off the dock and boat even when we're sitting lakeside. I've even had to help a few of them unhook my boat cover. Yet another reason why it's important to keep your Knipex handy. Some general comments for the posters above. 1) Not all property owners are created equal. A few have their "golf course" lawns go down to the water's edge. Most don't, as it's an invitation to the ducks and geese to come and crap all over the lawn. 2) Not all townships allow 50 to 100 foot wide lots and look like the Fox Chain of Lakes. The minimum in our township is 200ft and many properties are much larger than that, but the Governor and the building lobby who have him in their pocket are working on eliminating that ordinance. 3) Our county also requires a buffer zone along the shoreline to preserve the "wilderness" appearance. Yet another ordinance Governor and the building lobby friends are working to eliminate. 4) Property owners have a responsibility to maintain the littoral zone and most take it very seriously. 5) Lastly, while there are already muskies in the lake I wish they would stock more. Yes, you heard it - a property owner who would like MORE muskies. Not all musky fishermen are the same. Not all property owners are the same. Be aware that propagating stereotypes only weaken your arguments when you wish to promote change. Edited by dfkiii 1/15/2016 10:55 AM | ||
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Posts: 16632 Location: The desert | dfkiii - 1/15/2016 10:52 AM North of 8 - 1/15/2016 8:38 AM One thought, as someone living on a lake in northern WI, I don't think I have ever heard anyone in our association complain about boat traffic from fishermen. Now, PWCs would be a different matter. Like the clown that rented a cottage and every day would take the PWC out and spin circles about 50 yards off shore for 15 to 30 minutes at a time. It was one of the old two strokes and you could not hear yourself think it was so loud. I figure he liked to be dizzy. But fishermen? Never heard a complaint about too many fishermen. Someone did express concern that competitors in the Hodag tournament were going to crash some day racing across the lake I live on trying to be the first to the bridge and then first to get down the river and onto the next lake. It used to be quite the sight, 3 or 4 boats going top speed, essentially playing chicken, seeing who would back off first, given that only one could pass under the bridge at a time. Haven't seen that it a while. Like North of 8 wrote, there isn't much concern about fishermen or the associated boat traffic. Thankfully most of the folks out fishing are looking for a quieter, wilderness experience and don't blast "Slayer" or "Death Metal for the Mentally Impaired" over their boat sound systems. I've heard a few Brewers or Packers games on, but it wasn't so loud that I was troubled by it. If I were really bothered by it I could always mow the lawn or run the leaf blower/chain saw. It's amazing how guys can blast heavy metal music in their boats but the sound of yard machinery gets them moving pretty quickly. Most of the people who come by our place are pretty cool and either hurry by when they see we are outdoors or are simply exchange a friendly greeting. I'll occasionally ask how they're doing and will offer up info (yes, including spots) if they are particularly nice. Then again you have the jack@sses who bounce lures off the dock and boat even when we're sitting lakeside. I've even had to help a few of them unhook my boat cover. Yet another reason why it's important to keep your Knipex handy. Some general comments for the posters above. 1) Not all property owners are created equal. A few have their "golf course" lawns go down to the water's edge. Most don't, as it's an invitation to the ducks and geese to come and crap all over the lawn. 2) Not all townships allow 50 to 100 foot wide lots and look like the Fox Chain of Lakes. The minimum in our township is 200ft and many properties are much larger than that, but the Governor and the building lobby who have him in their pocket are working on eliminating that ordinance. 3) Our county also requires a buffer zone along the shoreline to preserve the "wilderness" appearance. Yet another ordinance Governor and the building lobby friends are working to eliminate. 4) Property owners have a responsibility to maintain the littoral zone and most take it very seriously. 5) Lastly, while there are already muskies in the lake I wish they would stock more. Yes, you heard it - a property owner who would like MORE muskies. Not all musky fishermen are the same. Not all property owners are the same. Be aware that propagating stereotypes only weaken your arguments when you wish to promote change. Much truth in this post. I shouldn't paint with such a broad brush. I work with many lake associations, and many of them are concerned with the resource and truly do want to take care of it. Like anything in life you always have "those people" that put others in a bad light. Just because they are like that, doesn't mean all lake property owners are. And yes, lawn mowers and leaf blowers are extremely annoying while you're on the water! Argh! | ||
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | ESOX Maniac - 1/15/2016 10:04 PM Pointer spot on! I was on Presque Isle and endured ~ 2 hrs of leaf blower in October at MF Outing. WTF, you're in the northwoods, its not Chicago, the leaves will be taken care of by mother nature! Maybe lay down some arificial turf and you won't have to mow either, and also buy some really big artificial Christmas trees and artificial birch trees too! Easy peasy! Some care, some don't! Have fun! Al It's pretty simple Al. In my neck of the woods, we're encouraged by the local fire department to follow the DNR's "Forested and Firewise" guidelines (http://dnr.wi.gov/files/pdf/pubs/fr/FR0419.pdf). It's their desire (and quite frankly, mine) to deter wild fire damage to homes and structures. These guidelines include removing combustibles from a specified radius of buildings and to keep the buffered areas "clean and green". As a side benefit, keeping the buffer areas mowed also reduces the incidence of ticks. I can't tell you how many deer/raccoon/coyote/fox/squirrel/rodent cross the property on a daily basis, but it's safe to say they are all carrying a variety of ticks along with them. Avoiding Lymes is something we've been lucky enough to do so far and I plan to continue swaying the odds in our favor. That said I'd estimate less than 10% of the property is actively maintained, so the yard machinery isn't used that much but it's good to have it handy when thoughtless fishermen are within earshot. | ||
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Posts: 2752 Location: Mauston, Wisconsin | Yes, you need to take care of your property, actually common sense for any property owner. BTW: I do admire those beautiful lakefront log homes and also appreciate the added structure provided by the docks. The leaf blower is a great deterent for not only those thoughtless fisherman, but also those pesky critters that are invading your property. http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php/about-lyme/tick-vec... The, "its my lake" argument for stopping stocking of muskies is still illogical if there's a public access. Have fun! Al | ||
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | ESOX Maniac - 1/16/2016 9:00 AM Yes, you need to take care of your property, actually common sense for any property owner. BTW: I do admire those beautiful lakefront log homes and also appreciate the added structure provided by the docks. The leaf blower is a great deterent for not only those thoughtless fisherman, but also those pesky critters that are invading your property. http://www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php/about-lyme/tick-vec... The, "its my lake" argument for stopping stocking of muskies is still illogical if there's a public access. Have fun! Al I view myself more of an invader on the animals' "property". They were here long before me and will be here long after I'm gone. I stay out of their way, and so far they've chosen to stay out of mine (except for red squirrels - zero tolerance policy when they start chewing on the cabin). Only speaking about WI, the public trust doctrine effectively changes the "it's my lake" statement to "it's my lake as much as it is yours" regardless of public access. Everybody owns the lakes. | ||
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