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Location: varies | What would you guess your catch to lost percentage is in a season.
fish on is setting the hook and wrangling it for at least 5 seconds.
poll is for PERCENTAGE LOST. |
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| Last year I landed 100% of "fish on", but missed some hits. The year before I lost over 50% of "fish on". I'd guess my 10-year running average is losing around 25 - 40%, but haven't kept track other than the last two years. |
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Location: Chisholm, MN | Well, 5 seconds is kind of a long time in a muskie fight. I rarely lose one that's already been hooked for that long. I would say my percentage of fish hooked and lost before 1 second is pretty high, but 1-10% for fish lost after 5 seconds of fighting. |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | These numbers are staggering, in my opinion. 26% of the voters are losing up to 80% of the fish they initially hooked? OUCH!!! I would have thought 90% of the anglers would be losing 10% or LESS of the fish they hook. |
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Location: varies | I would say 1 in 5 lost or 20% is accurate for me. |
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Location: one foot over the line | I put myself in the 11-20% bracket, unfortunately the ones i seem to lose are the big ones over 70 inches.
Edited by beerforthemuskygods 5/7/2015 8:41 PM
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Location: Otsego, MN | I would say when you get hooks into them for a few seconds I don't lose very many. If we include the ones that nip at the bait or bump it and immediately are off maybe 30%. Once I started using a go pro I began to realize how long 5 seconds into a muskie fight is...
5 seconds is typically long enough to say "Fish ON", "Get the Net" and "Barely Hooked". Much longer than people think.
Either way I would like to improve on this by sharpening hooks more frequently, paying more attention on those long days and improving my figure 8 technique. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | jlong - 5/7/2015 1:27 PM
These numbers are staggering, in my opinion. 26% of the voters are losing up to 80% of the fish they initially hooked? OUCH!!! I would have thought 90% of the anglers would be losing 10% or LESS of the fish they hook.
^ what he said ... sharp hooks and swim em under pressure. take some time to enjoy em stedda stuffin' em in the bag so fast. |
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Location: Waukee, IA | Looks like the data has a split bell curve. Not sure if this indicates two different skill-sets of anglers, or people reporting their answers according to how they interoperate their question. If I report my percentage based on fish lost before 5 seconds, it matches the high percentage loss peak. If I go off of fish lost after 5 seconds it matches the lower peak. |
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| From my records, I have lost 21.2% (that stupid 0.2% has placed me in the 21% to 40% range). |
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Location: Black Creek, WI | If people are really losing this high of a percentage of their strikes... why are there so few discussions on this board regarding how to properly set the hooks, fight, and net a musky? There is a lot of discussion around how to get the bite.... but???? With how difficult it is to get a strike from a musky, I'd think there would be a lot more effort put into capitalizing on those strikes. |
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| What constitutes a fish being "hooked"??
To me when you feel that "bump*, set the hook, and come up empty? That's one you missed, NOT one you lost.
When you get a fish swing and miss, or just nip at a bait, that's one you missed.
The ones that are on and off before you even feel the full weight of the fish? Missed.
If you get a hood hookset and you keep pressure on the fish, I can't imagine that many guys are losing that many fish.
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Location: Contrarian Island | I disagree Sled... get those sons a b*tches in the net asap... the longer you fight them the higher % get off... ; ) I get a lot more enjoyment out of holding a big fish up for a pic than fighting it for an extended period of time... I would guess I get about 80-90% of the fish I hook for 5 seconds to the bag..heck some fights don't even last 5 seconds.....but I horse em! 
Edited by BNelson 5/12/2015 1:50 PM
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Location: varies | I will say most of my lost fish come from shallow fish as they almost always breach the surface with the shakes and will toss the bait. |
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Location: Walker, MN | ~10% or so. I would say 40% come off when netted though. I agree that you really can't get them in the net too fast with the gear we have now. |
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| Masqui-ninja - 5/12/2015 6:53 PM
~10% or so. I would say 40% come off when netted though. I agree that you really can't get them in the net too fast with the gear we have now.
Unless they are barely hooked, in which case you lose em.
If you have one hook through soft flesh, and you fight them easy, steady pressure and let em swim when they want to, you will land most of them. If they are well hooked you will land em all. |
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| My guess is that there are some answering as % of fish lost and others as % of fish caught. |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | BNelson - 5/12/2015 1:44 PM
I disagree Sled... get those sons a b*tches in the net asap... the longer you fight them the higher % get off... ; ) I get a lot more enjoyment out of holding a big fish up for a pic than fighting it for an extended period of time... I would guess I get about 80-90% of the fish I hook for 5 seconds to the bag..heck some fights don't even last 5 seconds.....but I horse em! ;)
in the words of Josh Baskin "what's fun about that"? |
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Location: Contrarian Island | catching fish is a lot more fun than losing them isn't it? |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | it's cool to watch em swim and head shake n stuff ... jumping is the best but only if they are <45ish LOL, right ... |
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Location: Minnesota: where it's tough to be a sportsfan! | Makes me glad I don't keep a log anymore guys! We all know that losing fish is part of the game, but just think if you didn't loose that big girl last fall, you know the one off the flat rock way out on the end of that point where the cabbage stops. Why what would you have to dream about all winter long?
What on earth would ever cause any of us to be so fanatical about having sharp hooks if not for the one's we lost?
I know guys that can't keep the house neat let alone the cars but you inspect their tackle...even super glued the palamar knots huh?
The best memories I have of this sport focus more around encounters and lost fish than they do of those in the bag. The one's that haunt you at night, show up and hit on the 8 making you set the hook in your sleep....that's priceless! |
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Location: Ashland WI | jakejusa - 6/5/2015 10:25 AM
Makes me glad I don't keep a log anymore guys! We all know that losing fish is part of the game, but just think if you didn't loose that big girl last fall, you know the one off the flat rock way out on the end of that point where the cabbage stops. Why what would you have to dream about all winter long?
What on earth would ever cause any of us to be so fanatical about having sharp hooks if not for the one's we lost?
I know guys that can't keep the house neat let alone the cars but you inspect their tackle...even super glued the palamar knots huh?
The best memories I have of this sport focus more around encounters and lost fish than they do of those in the bag. The one's that haunt you at night, show up and hit on the 8 making you set the hook in your sleep....that's priceless!
Agree whole-heartedly. |
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| This is really more about baits than what's been said. If you lose a third of your glider strikes and only 2-3% of your buck tail bites, it's the bait. Suick's not as much a glider as Phantom or Hellhound so you lose less. Top water is most chance for operator error, so that improves with use. |
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Location: Contrarian Island | strikes are one thing but the original poster asked what percentage you lose after being on for 5 seconds...5 seconds is a fairly long time to have a fish on... lots of fights don't even take 5 seconds! |
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| I think the comment is still valid, the bait and how it's worked has much to do with how well the fish stays "glued" to it. You simply will keep most buck tail fish to the bitter end. Stick baits with a dead straight retrieve come next, but the stick itself becomes a crowbar to remove fish...the glider adds a likely near miss or other poor hook up to the crowbar and the loss goes up. Give a musky a steady target in a straight direction and not one that acts like a crowbar, sharp hooks, and you have a near certain suicide. Sure, they don't always want those baits, and you can often coax them with a glider, but you'll miss or lose a lot more fish, or worry every second to the net. |
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| HELLO...guess not too many with basic math skills on this site....its a win to lose ratio...so if you lost 20% you should be clicking on 80% win
Edited by wall i 6/7/2015 12:05 PM
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| wall i - 6/7/2015 11:19 AM
HELLO...guess not too many with basic math skills on this site....its a win to lose ratio...so if you lost 20% you should be clicking on 80% win
You are right about the lack of match skills around here.
But even more prevalent is poor reading comprehension. Not to mention any names but Y O U are one of them! |
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| jaultman - 6/8/2015 8:28 AM
wall i - 6/7/2015 11:19 AM
HELLO...guess not too many with basic math skills on this site....its a win to lose ratio...so if you lost 20% you should be clicking on 80% win
You are right about the lack of match skills around here.
But even more prevalent is poor reading comprehension. Not to mention any names but Y O U are one of them! ; )
where do you see a flaw in comprehension??
whatever, but Ill MATCH my MATH skills against your spelling
Edited by wall i 6/8/2015 9:24 AM
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| wall i - 6/8/2015 9:21 AM
where do you see a flaw in comprehension??
This part of the original post:
rodbender - 5/7/2015 8:40 AM
What would you guess your catch to lost percentage is in a season.
fish on is setting the hook and wrangling it for at least 5 seconds.
poll is for PERCENTAGE LOST.
I would say the last sentence governs, even though it's contradictory to the thread title and first sentence. It is the one that gives instructions.
Sometimes, when everyone does something one way and you think it should be done the other, they're right, and you are not.
wall i - 6/8/2015 9:21 AM
whatever, but Ill MATCH my MATH skills against your spelling
Good cath, my bad. I mean catch - good catch. |
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| 2 outta 3 rules.......see title
You are correct...I stopped reading
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