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Location: Winneconne, WI | This was sent to me by a friend from Iowa:
CLEAR LAKE - Six-year old William Elston of Mason City didn't let the
big one get away.
Elston, with a little help from his mother Tammy and Ryan Crosser of
Clear Lake, caught a 50-inch muskie off the shore of Clear Lake near the
Heartland Inn on Thursday evening.
"A fish like that always turns heads," said Lowell Washburn, a public
information specialist for the Iowa DNR. "That's a monster game fish. He
could fish until he's 60 and not catch another one like that."
Elston, who was fishing with a kiddie pole, was fishing for catfish
with stink bait when the muskie took the bait.
"He actually reeled it in until it got to the top of the water," said
Deibert, as it took approximately 15 minutes to reel in the fish.
Elston's mother took over from there as she jumped in the lake and
helped bring the trophy-fish to shore.
"A 50-inch muskie is a trophy fish for anyone in North America," said
Washburn, who added that it could be a record for Clear Lake, but
individual records for each lake aren't kept. "It's amazing for anyone to
catch a 50-inch muskie."
The state record for a muskie is 50 pounds, 6 ounces and 52 inches long
at Spirit Lake in August 2000 by Kevin Cardwell.
Deibert said Elston fishes about twice a week.
"He's caught some big bullheads, he's an avid bullhead fisherman," said
Deibert. "We think it's a record for 4-pound test line."
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | Cool story, cool fish, crappy ending
That is a good way to teach catch and release to the kids.
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| Yes indee-dee! It woul
Edited by Sponge 6/26/2007 6:11 AM
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| SUPERB fish!
I fished the Heartlands chapter tournament last week and would have loved to see that fish!
A 6 year old catches a monster from a lake that has no natural reproduction and he keeps it? Man at 6 years old I would have kept a 40" That fish exceeds what many, many, many fishermen have caught in their entire lifetime and this kid did it on 4 pd. test and a snoopy rod!
Congrats to mom and son on a lifetime of memories.
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| Sorry but I can see nothing wrong with this ending! Even those who push for the 50" limit would say this fish is a worthy kept fish. If not, it is aqll catch and release.
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Location: Alsip, Il | Congradulations to the kid and the mom!!!!!! Let's not be concern whether they should of released the fish or not, I hope it is a new line class record!!!!! I a very happy and grateful that a parent is taking interest, spending time with and taking their child fishing!!!!!!!! Al |
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | For sure that kid will have a life time of memories. Yes that fish is a biggie, but worthy of being killed? I don't think so. I don't think any fish is worthy of being killed. Congrats to the young boy for catching a pig, it is just sad to see another trophy killed. And harder for me to accept that there are still many so called "catch and release musky nuts" that think that killing this fish is alright. I really question peoples catch and release ethics when they say they are 100% catch and release, but good job on killing a trophy.
Just my 2 cents, not trying to start a fight.
Mike Hulbert
Edited by MikeHulbert 5/2/2003 10:17 AM
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| Hulbert, your just pissed that a little boy has caught bigger fish than you. Step it up and give the kid some credit, he is a better musky man than you. Maybe if you are nice to him, he will guide or show ya some pointers...BR |
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| Congrats to the little tyke! What excitement there must have been! I, too, hope it is a line class record. Hope they get a nice mount out of it.
I'm am getting more and more concerned about the attitude of some of my fellow muskie anglers out there. Yes, this is a dead fish. Is it the fact that it's a little kid that caught this fish that bothers you? The fact that it was caught while catfishing? On a Snoopy rod to boot? You think that he's not a real muskie dude, so it is ok to criticize him and his mom for keeping the fish?
I am getting sick of the attitude from some that every single fish caught should be released. CPR is a good thing, and has helped our fisheries tremedously. But CPR stops being a good thing when it is associated with the eliteist mentality that exists today by some. Just want to clarify that I have released every muskie that I have caught to date, and so have my kids. However, that may not always be the case. |
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| I don't think that killing this fish is right in any way, but be realistic. Does a mother and a young child know any better? Are the catch and release musky nuts supposed to dress in white robes and walk around their house at night because they killed a musky. The fish is dead, and the only thing we can do is educate the kid and mother. No need to create an ulcer.
MJB
Edited by MJB_04 5/2/2003 10:35 AM
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Location: Ft. Wayne Indiana | BR, I tried telling you that I was not starting a fight, just throwing out my 2 cents. Why do you have to come back and attack me for expressing my opinion?
I am not pissed he caught that hawg, I am glad he did. I am sure he will be a crazy musky joneser for the rest of his life. I am just upset about the fact that it had to be killed. It doesn't matter to me who caught the fish.
And BR, whoever you are, if you have something to say at least let me know who you are before you start attacking me. What have I done to upset you?
Stating that I am not a good fisherman has nothing to do with this post. Please keep the topic on the same page. You can e-mail me directly at [email protected] if you have something to say.
Thanks,
Mike Hulbert (the worst musky fisherman in the world)
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| I can't for the LIFE of me understand how anyone can put a negative ending to this story. The kid is SIX for goodness sakes, obviouly is NOT an experienced muskie angler, and was fishing from SHORE!!
His Mom and he managed to miraculously land a fish bigger than an awful lot of people who frequent the muskie boards have ever caught. Not fair? Bull. This Mom bothered to take her son fishing instead of leaving him in front of the TV mindlessly watching cartoons. My hat is off to them both, and I don't take my hat off much.
MH, it isn't what you are saying, it is how you are saying it. I don' t think you meant the kid to feel bad, but if he or his Mom read this, I bet they would. BR,??
To diminsh the obvious happiness they are sharing with mean, ill spirited-Scroogist-all muskies HAVE to be released-elitist talk is flat inconsiderate, and if I was this kid's Mom, I would respond to that with a special finger in the air.
CPR is an easier thing to teach if we are reasonable and don't get in-your-face elitist
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| Congrats to the young man. I too was disappointed to see he kept it. But why not? It is the fish of a lifetime and without any natural reproduction, taking this fish really does no harm to the fishery.
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| If you want a good fight go back in the archives and search for "eating muskie". Last year some yahoo asked for recipes on eating our beloved trophy. The members of course blasted the guy. Funny stuff. Elitist or not CPR is great. 6 year olds fishing with their moms is better. I am going to start soaking my jakes in stink bait. Who knows maybe thats the key!!! |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I would bet we just hooked this kid for life as a musky nut. If it takes a 50" to do it then so be it! Steve, I know your very concervation minded, but just put yourselves in their shoes.
1. They're just excited to see a fish that big.
2. It was mom and the kid. How educated about CPR do you really think they are.
3. Their from Iowa (sorry, couldn't resist!!!! 
Now if the Heartland Chapter is smart about it, they'll buy him a junior membership and use this publicity to their advantage. I'm actually suppriesed there was a 50 in that lake!
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| I am suppreised you made fun Iowa intelligence and did'nt hit spell check! |
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Iowa Muskies Hunter; Couldn't find a single post that made fun of ANYONE's smarts, and there is no spell check key on the MuskieFIRST board, obviously. My congrats to the young man and his Mother! |
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Location: north central wisconsin | Congrats to the boy. I have no problem with him keeping it. I have more of a problem with 100% CPR nuts myself. I have only kept one musky out of the better part of five hundred some(a gut hooked fish), but do plan on keeping a trophy some day. That said, I'm all for higher size limits(I hope my relolution goes through to a rule change by 05 on the WI river), but if a fish is caught over the trophy limit and they want to keep it, let them. The fish was 50", though maybe not a "mounter" to you and I, is still a true trophy to the majority of musky anglers.
Good luck in 03!
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| Worral,
MT made fun of Iowa intelligence in the post before IMH's
The Rubber Ducky
"Do I get a free rubber ducky with that Patriot?" |
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Location: Lafayette, IN | I've said on this board I've only caught 3 muskies to-date. Maybe I've caught many more than that but don't want to admit what may have been their fate before my day of "enlightenment". Maybe I don't want to even give another angler the opportunity to shoot down my memories with their self-righteous attitudes. Generally speaking, I have been very impressed with the tone of views expressed in this forum. But only one elitist @-%^&$ the mix can ruin a lifetime of enjoyment for a kid (or an adult for that matter) who just caught their first trophy and still has a lifetime of learning ahead of him/her. Celebrate the success. Don't make the keeping of a single (and legal) fish fodder for criticism. My nephew caught a trophy pike by our standards (41"er, off the dock while waiting to go out, and on bass tackle) and by the time the "ignorant" family members were done taking pictures and videos as a means of celebrating his success the fish had been out of the water for 15 minutes. When it dawned on him his next statement was, "Gee Uncle Steve, I really gotta get her back in the water!". I said, "Ben, she's not going back in the water. I'm having her mounted for you." Of course, I knew she was a dead fish anyway but, my nephew just got teary eyed and said, "Man!!! Thanks, Uncle Steve!" One of the most exciting family memories I'll ever recall. And...the only fish my nephew has ever kept. And he's caught thousands of bass....believe me! By the way...I have only caught 3 'skis..(RATS!)
Edited by stephendawg 5/2/2003 1:24 PM
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| Excellent post Dawg...maybe everyone could kick back, take a deep breath and realize the potential for this thing getting REAL stupid; we ALL have said stuff w/out thinking it out first, and Mike wasn't bashing the kid/mom, just making a comment. Some think an occasional fish can be taken, others think it shouldn't...this will not change, so at least we can be civil and still get our point across and attempt to even out the curves. |
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| Congrats to the kid!
Just a couple of points.
I do not like to see muskies killed as well but this was a six year old kid and a big thrill for his and his family. If they are causal anglers they probably don't know much about cpr.
This fish was also caught on 4 pound test line and a snoopy rod. Who knows what the total time was in fighting this fish but I know it must have been over 15 minutes judging from the story. That fish must have been so stressed out that it is highly unlikly that it would have survived a release anyway.
As for the line class record. I know someone who caught a 49" hog on 6 pound test. They checked it out and found out that there are no catagories for 6 pound test on muskies. Just eight and up. No official records keeped to date.......no record for fish.
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Location: Eau Claire,WI | Congrats to the kid and his mother!I hope this boy gets hooked on fishing,looks as thouh he is well on his way.Now I gotta go get a snoopy pole,tweety bobber and a can o' worms for my trophy.LOL
I AGREE 100 % with what Shep said,couldn't have said it better myself!!!
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Rubber Ducky, Wow, develop a sense of humor. He was, I believe, referring to the old, absolutley inaccurate stereotype of the Southern Minnesota or Iowa angler fishing to 'fill the creel', sort of like us Northern Wisconsin folks refer to some of our friends from Illinois when berry season is here. There was no reference that anyone was lacking in the grey matter dept. Old treats can correct me if I am wrong; bet you a quarter I'm not! Also, for your information, the Patriot my son is running is a SALTWATER model. Most of the flats boats out there are white because of the environment. Ever see a polyflake Whaler, Proline, Key West, or Angler? No? Well, I'll be darned, must be a trend! Heat and saltwater raise pure cain, and white gel with no carpet is the cure. Buy a Patriot, and you will, for once, be able to AFFORD your very own Rubber Ducky, if you are in to that sort of thing. Heck, you might even be able to afford a whole BUNCH of 'em!  By the way, my last name is spelled W O R R A L L. Two Ls. And I still think it is cool the kid caught that fish. |
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| At 6 years old it will be a fish the boy never forgets. I don't think it is bad that Hubert said it was a crappy ending cause he probably hates to see such a nice fish killed. Hard to make the jump to him being an elitist from such an honest and innocuous comment. If you catch a great fish and keep it then fine...you don't need acceptance if you feel it is the right thing to do. And Treats is a great guy and threw in a little state rivalry jab which is fine but the fact that he would have lost out in a spelling bee to the 6 year old makes it even funnier. Where is Iowa Jon when you need him? |
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| Here's my take on it. The local Muskie group/MI-chapter/kind-hearted-person should find out where the fish is now and see if they can have it mounted for him. Then use that opportunity to offer to take the mother and kid out fishing for muskie on proper equipment from a boat.. use that to teach the kid. I believe in C+R, however, it isn't going to completely kill the fisheries to have someone keep one musky in their lifetime. The problem is when they think they have to keep EVERY legal musky. |
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Location: On the X that marks the mucky spot | I'm from MN and this story is from Iowa. If anyone doesn't get a little light hearted jibing between the boarders, go back to the farm :0
Also, last I checked there isn't a sepll czeck on this paggg |
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| Way to go kid and mom! |
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