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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | anybody used this yet? any thoughts? I see Saric is using it on the show weekly, wondering whether it is because it is a good rod or because Shimano is paying the bills..... |
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Location: Land of the Musky | Sorry but LOL at that one 
"it is a good rod or because Shimano is paying the bills" |
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Location: Sawyer County, WI | This answer is probably both. At least you know who Jim's sponsors are. Maybe our elected politicians should be required to wear jerseys that clearly illustrate who pays their bills. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | not criticizing Jim in any way, just would like to hear unbiased reports from people who are not given free tackle and equipment 
The old compres were an ok rod, certainly priced fairly, but they were a little too flimsy for 10's ( compared to what is out there now) and I had terrible luck with the rod tips breaking...wondering whether they stepped up their game or not... |
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Location: central Wisconsin | Why don't you go to the Musky Hunter site and ask Jim himself?
I have always found that he answers questions on their site. He sure seems to catch a ton of fish on double tens. |
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| Jim will sell those rods pretty hard on the site but they are nice rods. I had the 9'0XXH but if the 9'6 is like that one I'd say it's a very nice rod. Only complaint was the size of the foregrip but other than that very nice |
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| I used the 9'6" for bucktails last year, paired with a Tranx. Great rod for casting, very good for big figure 8s, and obviously telescoping helps storage. If tip was a tad stiffer it would be even better but not enough of an issue to bother me. At the price this rod is a huge value and replaced much more expensive bucktail rods in my lineup. The Shimano name gives me confidence if customer service is ever needed, which it wasn't. Very happy I bought it. |
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Location: Watersmeet, Michigan | I'm absolutely hooked on Shimano reels, but I've looked at the Compre's and they seem to be short on back bone. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to remember thinking they could have used a few more guides.
I think you can do a lot better for the same money - e.g. St. Croix Mojo or a Tackle Industries.
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Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin | Wait a minute, no one gets tackle like that 'free'. Using the gear daily is almost always a portion of the contract/agreement, and the gear is partial payment. Not too many pros (actually, none that I know of) will sign an agreement to use and promote gear they do not completely trust and believe in, so there's your sign.
I get a fair number of rods, lures, and reels sent to me. Not one is 'free', and in fact all require 'in kind' consideration. |
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| I've noticed that many of the guests in Jim's boat do not use the Shimano rods. For what that is worth.....
That being said, my wife's first pole was a Compre. And it held up nicely for her.
Now she runs an Okuma telescoping rod, and she likes that one better. I've got two other Okuma's that work great for me.
Neither brand is overly expensive, and each have caught fish with no issue.
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Location: Chicago, IL | I've been fishing Compres for years. I have five total rods across their three latest models. Oldest is a 2001 rod and is still in great shape. Their latest lineup is phenomenal, in my opinion, the best rod out there for the price. The lifetime guarantee is helpful if you ever need it. I have not found them to be "light in backbone", the 8'XH is my favorite rod for jigging Bondy baits, which requires a strong rod to hammer the hooks home. I also prefer full grip rods, which the 9'6" isn't, but generally speaking their full grip models have nice long butt grips compared to some others on the market. |
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Location: Smith Creek | http://fish.shimano.com/content/sac-fish/en/home/customer-service/w...
1 year warranty. |
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Location: Chicago, IL | Wow that's brutal. Bought my new ones last year before 8/1/14 when it looks like they switched to a 1-yr. Sorry for the confusion. |
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Location: Detroit River | Of course they are helping pay the bills. St. Croix helped pay them before that. Either St. Croix didn't renew or Shimano offered a better deal. Stowmaster nets sponsors the MH show but the net bag on the net frame is a Frabil. I don't believe that all the pros believe fully in the products that they use. If they did they wouldn't switch so much. It's all about the $$$$. Since I started watching Joe Bucher he's had 3 different boat sponsors. There's only 2 fishing pros that I can think of that have stayed with the same major sponsors since they started their careers & that's KVD & Jimmy Houston. |
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| My Brother had one as his first muskie rod in a 7ft mh model if I remember right. Snapped in half after a couple hours use. He was snagged so I dont totally blame the rod but I did see it happen and couldnt believe it let go so easy. With that said Ive also had a St Croix Triumph snap on a pike hookset and a few other premiers have guide issues. |
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Location: MN | I have owned several Compre rods and never had a problem with them. |
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Location: mercer wi | The new compres have come along way. The 9' xxh is by far the best big rubber rod ive ever used. And iy handles big blades really well too. For less then 200 why not try it out. |
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| A bit heavy compared to a TI, but good sticks at a good price. I use my 8'6" XXH for rubber. Got it for $80 shipped too. |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | jonnysled - 3/27/2015 6:52 AM
is there a particular glue they recommend for putting the tips back on? and does it come with a jar? gallon??
jim would sell snake oil on the show if it paid ...
Yeah that about sums up my luck with Compres in the past...busted 3 at the tip
You got a 9'6" equivalent to this James? |
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Location: Lincoln, NE | achotrod said his brothers was on a snag. Musky Brian how did yours break? I realize sometimes there are bad products and things do happen but most of the time when a rod breaks it's the users fault. When I started buying St. Croix's I talked them up pretty good so my buddy got one for walleye fishing. He broke it the first trip out. He was really mad. Sent it in and got a free one. Broke it the first trip out too. Got another free one. Then I asked him what was wrong. First one was a snag so he locked down the drag and high sticked it straight up and broke it rather than pulling back and putting pressure on the line. 100% his fault. But he didn't think a rod should break before the line. Second one he threw in the back of his truck with a spare tire and a cooler rolling around in the back. Got to the lake and it was broke. Well it's a fishing rod, not a crowbar. It's not meant to have tires and coolers getting dropped on it. I'm not saying you guys are doing things like that but people are hard on things and just expect them to magically last forever. If it's a high end rod, it's designed to be light and sensitive and used in a specific manner. It loads throughout the blank, not at a kinking point when you high stick it or show the rod to your friend and he grabs the tip and bends it to see how it feels. I guess what I'm saying is whenever I hear someone say a rod broke, I'm usually very skeptical that the rod was junk and lean towards the person did something wrong or didn't take care of it and it finally failed. I guess some people are just meant to fish with Ugly Stiks their whole life. |
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| Well said Travis. Same can be said with reels. I laugh when I read when guys say there reels "blew up" while they were fishing. I know it was their fault but why argue with them about it. I'll just stick with laughing! Kdawg |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | anti-reverse on daiwa lunas, control pedal on auto pilots, rod tips on shimano compre's ... it is what it is. notorious failures the manufacturer hopefully has improved but they are/were notorious. to claim otherwise says you either never had one or don't get out much. laughing at guys who know nothing of what they speak ^ is my entertainment for the day. thanks dawg ...
do some research ... it doesn't take much time to find some credible reports on what has been a very typical failures. they should stick to making reels vs. farming their brand out to the mass producing private labelers. the original compre's were junk and even with good customer service, i'd prefer a good product myself. tooth tamer did the same thing to a good name when they went overseas to a large producer, so did diamondback and so did lowrance at one time. i worked over there for 5 years and saw clearly what people do to make those mistakes. i remember being on the plane from ORD to Shanghai partying with a bunch of Penn Reels engineers when they went over to screw up their 975 ... |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | Travis A. - 3/28/2015 9:25 AM
achotrod said his brothers was on a snag. Musky Brian how did yours break? I realize sometimes there are bad products and things do happen but most of the time when a rod breaks it's the users fault. When I started buying St. Croix's I talked them up pretty good so my buddy got one for walleye fishing. He broke it the first trip out. He was really mad. Sent it in and got a free one. Broke it the first trip out too. Got another free one. Then I asked him what was wrong. First one was a snag so he locked down the drag and high sticked it straight up and broke it rather than pulling back and putting pressure on the line. 100% his fault. But he didn't think a rod should break before the line. Second one he threw in the back of his truck with a spare tire and a cooler rolling around in the back. Got to the lake and it was broke. Well it's a fishing rod, not a crowbar. It's not meant to have tires and coolers getting dropped on it. I'm not saying you guys are doing things like that but people are hard on things and just expect them to magically last forever. If it's a high end rod, it's designed to be light and sensitive and used in a specific manner. It loads throughout the blank, not at a kinking point when you high stick it or show the rod to your friend and he grabs the tip and bends it to see how it feels. I guess what I'm saying is whenever I hear someone say a rod broke, I'm usually very skeptical that the rod was junk and lean towards the person did something wrong or didn't take care of it and it finally failed. I guess some people are just meant to fish with Ugly Stiks their whole life.
That's a fair point Travis....but what you have to keep in mind is that I also have owned quite a few different rod brands along with Compres, and when all of the other rods are still around and doing just fine, and the Compres were the only ones busting in that manner, ALL in the same exact same spot on the rod then I have no other conclusion to draw then the top end of the Compre rods "were" ( I stopped buying them, maybe they are better now?) prone to breaking and I have seen 5 with my own eyes between myself and friends over the years. Sounds like a few others have had the same issue...
I don't remember the exact scenarios in which they all broke, none were on fish. Some were on the water, some were in transit. I can assure you however, I didn't decide to sit there and say " well, I am going to baby my other rods but sit here and put the Compre through hell and see if I can break it!!" |
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | jonnysled - 3/28/2015 12:16 PM
anti-reverse on daiwa lunas, control pedal on auto pilots, rod tips on shimano compre's ... it is what it is. notorious failures the manufacturer hopefully has improved but they are/were notorious. to claim otherwise says you either never had one or don't get out much. laughing at guys who know nothing of what they speak ^ is my entertainment for the day. thanks dawg ...
do some research ... it doesn't take much time to find some credible reports on what has been a very typical failures. they should stick to making reels vs. farming their brand out to the mass producing private labelers. the original compre's were junk and even with good customer service, i'd prefer a good product myself. tooth tamer did the same thing to a good name when they went overseas to a large producer, so did diamondback and so did lowrance at one time. i worked over there for 5 years and saw clearly what people do to make those mistakes. i remember being on the plane from ORD to Shanghai partying with a bunch of Penn Reels engineers when they went over to screw up their 975 ...
kinda reminds me of the " My Abu 5500 is working just fine 25 years later" guy...... |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | the 400D was going to be better than the 400TE and LJV too ... and plenty of people put a world's worth of sunshine up everyone's skirt. go find or price a used LJV and get back to me ...
i've got thousands invested in Shimano products and it is top quality but they do make mistakes. i remember fishing on Eagle lake when the D's came out ... the Shimano engineers were there from Japan. they knew and understood ... you can't argue with the truth no matter how convinced you want to be. |
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Location: Lincoln, NE | See that's the kind of details I was looking for. I was in no way accusing you. Just want to make that clear. I know the Bass Pro Shops Cat Maxx rods are a pretty decent rod except the inserts in the eyes pop out. It's a notorious problem with that rod. I was just stating a generalization and with the case of my friend, completely his fault. I felt bad for St. Croix having to dish out two free rods. |
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| Shimano's been making rods a long time, and most of them are awesome. Like anything, it's up to them to ensure quality from the factory and all brands have occasional issues. Shimano's pretty good at it and fixes mistakes. I stayed away from the old Compres too; the new ones are similar in name only. Forming a relationship with Saric seems like a pretty good idea to me - they get his promotion but also his input on rod characteristics. Why would people look down on that? Silly. Lots of opinion here from people who haven't fished with them.
I've got a Long Ranger, Big Dawg, and Big Nasty in my boat, but I like the 9'6" Compre better for Bucktails at 1/3 the price. That's just me. Fine rod, great price. |
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| Johnny, been out much? Been fishing for nearly 45 years. I've had 2 baitcast reels fail on me. An Abu Black Max back in 1994, anti-reverse. My fault, I set the hook on a stump. And a 7000Hsn, the gold one, with a spool freeze. Before that countless numbers of the old Mitchell 300 and 308's because of worn out bail springs. But I also take care of my equipment, and follow the maintenance manual. I have Abu's that I still use that date back to the 70's. Work Like new. Maybe some people just have bad luck? Still laughing. Kdawg |
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Location: minocqua, wi. | ^ $5.00 for each time i mentioned ABU in this thread ... pm me your address and i'll send the cash.
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Location: Lake Country, Wisconsin | 2 reels in 45 years eh?
how often do you fish? |
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