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Slamr
Posted 3/3/2015 10:43 AM (#757038)
Subject: Forgotten or Under-Utilized Baits/Presentations?!





Posts: 7036


Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
Just gazing at my wall of "i cant believe I own this many lures" last night and was thinking about what baits I have that are lower cost and often forgotten by many that i catch fish on...

For me:
-10" Jakes. Under $20, pretty durable til you smoke the lip on a rock and catches me lots of fish.
-Bomber Long A Mags - Under $10, great cold front or early season twitcher.
-Violent Strike or Rad Dog Spinnerbaits - switch out for a willow leaf blade (my preference) and you've got a great spinnerbait for $12.

Yours?
sworrall
Posted 3/3/2015 10:46 AM (#757039 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 32885


Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin
Jig and Creature.
Violent Strike spinnerbait
Flaptail topwater, in this case a Dog Turd
cave run legend
Posted 3/3/2015 10:48 AM (#757040 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 2097


Little ernies under 10$.
lpeitso
Posted 3/3/2015 10:52 AM (#757041 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 633


I still move fish with Windel's, and smaller bucktails. Everyone is throwing double blades, but Windel's are around $10, and still move fish. Jig and Lizard still moves fish also.
Masqui-ninja
Posted 3/3/2015 10:58 AM (#757043 - in reply to #757041)
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Posts: 1243


Location: Walker, MN
Mag Bombers are one of my all time producers. I like to work them very fast and erratic.
ShutUpNFish
Posted 3/3/2015 11:00 AM (#757044 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 1202


Location: Money, PA
Ripping/Casting cranks is kind of a lost technique these days with all the glides, rubber, jerks, etc. out there...
anzomcik
Posted 3/3/2015 11:40 AM (#757047 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 531


A blue gill under a float, It costs next to nothing to catch a blue gill with a worm you find under a log and a float and hook cost a couple bucks...

For a presentation I would say "jerk trolling" jerkbaits. Most trollers know that jerk ttrolling is very effictive and not very many of them are telling stories of jerking jerkbaits while trolling.
curleytail
Posted 3/3/2015 11:44 AM (#757049 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 2687


Location: Hayward, WI
One I can think of is cranking weeds with a Depthraider or something similar. Crank into weeds, pause (float), rip. This is something I had not really done much till last year and had some good luck doing it. Allows one to really pick structure apart, and Depthraiders are common and inexpensive.
musky513
Posted 3/3/2015 12:07 PM (#757055 - in reply to #757038)
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Burning small bucktails like a vibrax #6 in the original hair model or marabou.
ToddM
Posted 3/3/2015 12:47 PM (#757065 - in reply to #757038)
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Location: oswego, il
Agree with the bomber long a and the times to throw it.

Remember the tr twitcher and the hr craze? The wild Webster bites 100lbs of mag dawg in the air at any given time, the jigging and swimbait craze too.
Slamr
Posted 3/3/2015 1:30 PM (#757078 - in reply to #757065)
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs
ToddM - 3/3/2015 12:47 PM

Agree with the bomber long a and the times to throw it.

Remember the tr twitcher and the hr craze? The wild Webster bites 100lbs of mag dawg in the air at any given time, the jigging and swimbait craze too.


I remember those days (yes, we sound like old men). Funny though, I caught a lot of Indiana fish on HRs and 7-strand dawgs. And I donated a couple of both to the lake.
MD75
Posted 3/3/2015 1:51 PM (#757080 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 682


Location: Sycamore, IL
Spoons...very underutilized and easy on the pocketbook!


muskyroller
Posted 3/3/2015 2:53 PM (#757092 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 1039


Location: North St. Paul, MN
When I started, all I used for cranks were bucher shallowraiders...thanks for this thread! They're making a comeback on the end of my line 2015!

Others forgotten over the years that produced...
Awakers
Pig jerkbaits
Reef hawgs (still a pike magnet, but I don't throw them much for muskies)
Jack pots

(After reading my list, I'd say I was influenced by Bob M. He's what started me on this crazy journey 20 years ago.)
Travis A.
Posted 3/3/2015 7:36 PM (#757157 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 157


Location: Lincoln, NE
I would say in general just downsizing. We get caught up throwing pounders, huge bucktails and trolling 12" cranks. Then we go to smaller single blade bucktails, cranks in the 7-9" range and smaller plastics and see more fish. And not just sacrifice size for numbers either, we've caught some nice fish on smaller lures. But when those magic conditions all line up I'm still swinging for the fence with the big stuff.
WiscoMusky
Posted 3/3/2015 7:45 PM (#757158 - in reply to #757157)
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Posts: 397


Location: Wisconsin
Suicks! Just started using them for the first time this fall and they sure do work
magicmusky
Posted 3/3/2015 8:15 PM (#757161 - in reply to #757038)
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I have learned one thing about myself. I have spent too much and collected too many lures for presentations I only use sparingly, mainly large rubber baits. My goal for the upcoming season is to focus on some of those "forgotten" lures and presentations.
-Classic Daredevle
-Johnson Silver Minnow
-Single blade bucktails
Mullhead
Posted 3/3/2015 9:31 PM (#757180 - in reply to #757161)
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Posts: 286


Location: VA
Mepps Musky Marabou Haven't thrown one in years but caught a pile on them.
Ben Olsen
Posted 3/3/2015 10:46 PM (#757186 - in reply to #757038)
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Super Shad=metro muskie magic
bluebulldawg
Posted 3/4/2015 12:41 AM (#757190 - in reply to #757038)
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BURMEKS!
scmuskies
Posted 3/4/2015 8:32 AM (#757215 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 258


Location: Mayville, WI
Slow-rolling spring dawgs - not just a spring time lure!
Cisco kids - used to use them more & caught fish, started using Triple D's when they came out instead, need to go back


lennyg3
Posted 3/4/2015 9:02 AM (#757220 - in reply to #757215)
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Posts: 483


Location: NE PA
F18 rapalas
Sidejack
Posted 3/4/2015 9:42 AM (#757230 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 1084


Location: Aurora
Arbogast AC Plug
Jerk or crawl along the surface and pray the hardware holds when you hook up.
Newer ones might be more solid.



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Bondy
Posted 3/4/2015 9:56 AM (#757235 - in reply to #757038)
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Deep water.
dfkiii
Posted 3/4/2015 11:17 AM (#757256 - in reply to #757038)
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Location: Sawyer County, WI

I have a few of my Dad's old Creek Chub pikie minnows and Cisco Kid toppers that I've had success with. After replacing the hooks they were good to go. I have no idea how the "new" versions of these lures work, but the old ones sure do.
milje
Posted 3/4/2015 6:21 PM (#757373 - in reply to #757256)
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Posts: 410


Location: Wakefield, MI
dfkiii - 3/4/2015 11:17 AM


I have a few of my Dad's old Creek Chub pikie minnows and Cisco Kid toppers that I've had success with. After replacing the hooks they were good to go. I have no idea how the "new" versions of these lures work, but the old ones sure do.


I bought a new one, the rear end split open after about a week and no fish. Nice action though.


Does anyone else still throw a Mepps musky killer? I still put quite a few fish in the boat every year on them.
esoxaddict
Posted 3/4/2015 6:43 PM (#757376 - in reply to #757373)
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I have an old #5 Mepps with a black blade that I bring on every trip with full intention of giving it an hour or two, and I never do. Reef Hawgs, Bobbie Baits, The old Top Raiders with that metallic sound....

We're all so busy buying the latest and greatest that the muskies haven't seen before, we've forgotten about the stuff they haven't seen in a decade.

What happened to spinnerbaits? What happened to Ghost Tails?
Sidejack
Posted 3/5/2015 12:17 AM (#757448 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 1084


Location: Aurora
Spinnerbaits never caught on cuz people fish um too fast & in the wrong spots.
Ghost tails are still hand made, a top seller for retailers, and continue to catch biggies.
JKahler
Posted 3/5/2015 12:27 AM (#757449 - in reply to #757047)
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Posts: 1286


Location: WI
anzomcik - 3/3/2015 11:40 AM

For a presentation I would say "jerk trolling" jerkbaits. Most trollers know that jerk ttrolling is very effictive and not very many of them are telling stories of jerking jerkbaits while trolling.


It's a lot of work! I tried it once and said "this sucks, I'm only going to do it until the end of this spot". Of course I caught a fish, then had to keep doing it. That was with a 12" wtd Suick.
GIERAT
Posted 3/5/2015 5:03 AM (#757452 - in reply to #757449)
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Posts: 43


Location: Chicago
Giant poppers.....one of the ultimate surface baits ever made. Nobody throws 'em.
However, fly fisherman who mostly fish for musky...their "go to" lure is a big hand tied POPPER! Maybe the know something......
southern comfort
Posted 3/5/2015 6:53 AM (#757457 - in reply to #757038)
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Posts: 392


Zora Super Spook. They have been around for years especially as bass topwaters. They are smaller compared to todays topwaters - they don't look like much but they are very effective in the spring, post frontal or when you want to try something different.
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