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Message Subject: Pounder rods
tolle141
Posted 1/11/2015 9:50 AM (#747734)
Subject: Pounder rods





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Hey guys. What are your favorite rods for pounders?
jasonvkop
Posted 1/11/2015 10:41 AM (#747742 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Michigan
Big Dawg Legend Tournament is awesome for throwing big rubber. Also have used the Musky Innovations Monster Magnum and the Mark Lejewski 4x rod with good results.
Zinox
Posted 1/11/2015 10:50 AM (#747744 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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My choice in this order.

Nr 1: Predator XXH (don't have it borrowed one from a guide)
Nr 2: MI Mark Lejewski XXXXH. (have my own)
Nr 3: St Croix Big Dawg, with handle extended.(have my own)
Nr 4: TI XXH 9 foot.(have my own)
muskyhunter47
Posted 1/11/2015 11:07 AM (#747750 - in reply to #747744)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: Minnesota
I use a X Heavy For pounder's Tranx HG best of the best. Use a predator heavy for dubbel 10 ' s Tranx PG. And bought a back up predator XXH Tranx PG used it a few times for pounder's but works better for 2 pounders. Last 2 predators 9 foot 8 inches with 18 inch handle.
achotrod
Posted 1/11/2015 11:16 AM (#747752 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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I have been usig a Big Dawg but picked up a new Chaos Tackle Shock and Awe. Although I havent had it out for obvious reasons, I can tell you it is one bad ass rod. Its got the perfect handle length same as a TI 9ft rod but a bit thinner, somewhere right between the Big Dawg and a TI. Its rated from 4-24oz so it will throw anything in your box and it really loads up great for smaller baits. Also has alloy guides so no worries about cracking them. Weight is a bit lighter then a 9ft TI and a bit heavier the my Big Dawg. Awesome rod!
upnortdave
Posted 1/11/2015 11:17 AM (#747754 - in reply to #747750)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: mercer wi
Used shimanos new 9' xxh. Was really impressed with it. If your on a budget. I aslo weighted but section n turned rod into really well balanced rod.I liked it better then big dawg rod too. Just my spare change.
Tackle Industries
Posted 1/11/2015 11:20 AM (#747756 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Land of the Musky
Of course I want you to buy a Tackle Industries XXH pounder rod, but I am at the Chicago show right now and just looked at that new St Croix Legend Elite rod. Wow is all I can say! It has to be lighter than 10oz!!!

James
achotrod
Posted 1/11/2015 11:56 AM (#747760 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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I also love my TI XXH rod!
musky2424
Posted 1/11/2015 1:43 PM (#747780 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: RE: Pounder rods





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Location: Appleton Wi
xxh Tackle Industries rod
esoxone
Posted 1/11/2015 4:45 PM (#747850 - in reply to #747780)
Subject: RE: Pounder rods




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musky2424 - 1/11/2015 1:43 PM

xxh Tackle Industries rod


I agree, XXH Tackle Industries Rod


esoxone
toothycritter88
Posted 1/11/2015 6:39 PM (#747902 - in reply to #747850)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





Xxxh tooth tamer jawbreaker
brianT
Posted 1/11/2015 7:01 PM (#747915 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Planet Meltdown
Shock & Awe. Awesome pounder rod and will not break the bank.
Team Rhino
Posted 1/11/2015 10:17 PM (#747953 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: Appleton
The new Custom X XXH pounder rod is simply amazing. Has a middle of the road price range and it's great for throwing big rubber.
bowhunter29
Posted 1/12/2015 5:57 AM (#747967 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: South-Central PA
With some modifications, the TI XXH and Premier XH blanks can be built into killer Pounder rods. There are VERY few TI XXH's left. James is sold out and I have 2 or 3 left.

Jeremy
Weevil
Posted 1/14/2015 9:35 PM (#748561 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Palatine, IL
Shock and Awe.
Yooper Padre
Posted 1/15/2015 4:12 AM (#748572 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Watersmeet, Michigan
Ditto on the Tackle Industries XXH Light and strong. Good rod at a great price.

Fr. K
jonnysled
Posted 1/15/2015 7:24 AM (#748578 - in reply to #748572)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i was given a 12' surf-casting rod to try last year on our November Vermillion trip by a friend who works at St. Croix ... i'm 50 and was not in what i'd call pounder shape. i casted pounders and alphas 2.5 days straight with the assistance of the law of physics. this year a few of us are having customs built on their surf rod blank 3SRS120HMF2 (pictured next to a sling blade). you can throw pounders a mile and they load and launch like a bucktail ...


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Zib
Posted 1/15/2015 8:06 AM (#748587 - in reply to #748578)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Detroit River

jonnysled - 1/15/2015 8:24 AM i was given a 12' surf-casting rod to try last year on our November Vermillion trip by a friend who works at St. Croix ... i'm 50 and was not in what i'd call pounder shape. i casted pounders and alphas 2.5 days straight with the assistance of the law of physics. this year a few of us are having customs built on their surf rod blank 3SRS120HMF2 (pictured next to a sling blade). you can throw pounders a mile and they load and launch like a bucktail ...

 

That rod looks sweet. Don't know how I would transport that rod to the lake in my 14'5" boat but I want it. :

Were can a person buy the blank from? MudHole no longer sells the SC 12' surf rods.

 

bowhunter29
Posted 1/15/2015 8:14 AM (#748589 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: South-Central PA
Transportation isn't an issue, it's a 2-piece. They are butt-jointed and the top section should be around 9'.

Yes, Mudhole does carry this blank:
http://www.mudhole.com/Rod-Building/SCIII-Surf-Blanks/St-Croix-3SRS...

I built a pair of trolling rods on the 3SRS110MHF2, these are very nice blanks!

jeremy
jonnysled
Posted 1/15/2015 8:23 AM (#748594 - in reply to #748587)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: minocqua, wi.
Zib - 1/15/2015 8:06 AM

jonnysled - 1/15/2015 8:24 AM i was given a 12' surf-casting rod to try last year on our November Vermillion trip by a friend who works at St. Croix ... i'm 50 and was not in what i'd call pounder shape. i casted pounders and alphas 2.5 days straight with the assistance of the law of physics. this year a few of us are having customs built on their surf rod blank 3SRS120HMF2 (pictured next to a sling blade). you can throw pounders a mile and they load and launch like a bucktail ...

 

That rod looks sweet. Don't know how I would transport that rod to the lake in my 14'5" boat but I want it. :

Were can a person buy the blank from? MudHole no longer sells the SC 12' surf rods.

 



it's a 2-piece rod - edit, oops didn't see the other post, thanks ...
Zib
Posted 1/15/2015 8:49 AM (#748602 - in reply to #748589)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Detroit River

bowhunter29 - 1/15/2015 9:14 AM Transportation isn't an issue, it's a 2-piece. They are butt-jointed and the top section should be around 9'. Yes, Mudhole does carry this blank: http://www.mudhole.com/Rod-Building/SCIII-Surf-Blanks/St-Croix-3SRS... I built a pair of trolling rods on the 3SRS110MHF2, these are very nice blanks! jeremy

Thanks. I didn't look under the SCIII blanks. The other models had stated that they were no longer available.

I don't throw pounders that much but if having the longer surf rod makes it much easier on my old body then I guess I'll have to bite the bullet & pay the extra for the SCIII blank. Was it harder to find the spine in the butt section piece of the rod?

 

 

 

Flambeauski
Posted 1/15/2015 8:59 AM (#748604 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: Smith Creek
You won't find a spline on the butt. Tip is a different story. And the tip is actually about 7 1/2 foot, pretty manageable for transport.
The hardest part of building on this blank is finding components large enough for blank diameter. It's like .8 or bigger where the reel seat goes, size 20 fuji reel seats are about .78. So you need to ream a size 20 or go to a size 22 and shim it.
Thunderpumper
Posted 1/15/2015 9:10 AM (#748606 - in reply to #748604)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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A MSC120HMF2 is a great off the shelf option for a surf rod
Zib
Posted 1/15/2015 9:46 AM (#748616 - in reply to #748606)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: Detroit River
My concern with using the surf rod for pounders is that the line rating max is 60 LB. I use 100 LB for pounders just in case of a backlash. I wouldn't want to snap the rod due to using line that's heavier than what the rod is rated for. I broke an Okuma rod on a sturgeon partly because I was using line that was heavier than what the rod was rated for. With the surf rod having the moderate-fast action I would think this would maybe allow you to get away with using heavier line but not sure how that softer action would affect hook sets.

 

jonnysled
Posted 1/15/2015 9:50 AM (#748617 - in reply to #748616)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: minocqua, wi.
i used 80# braid ... 100# would not be a problem. we casted just above freezing temps and then with about 15 degree air temps. and other than de-icing line guides and reel pawl there were zero issues with casting lines you would use to throw pounders.
bowhunter29
Posted 1/15/2015 10:12 AM (#748621 - in reply to #748602)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: South-Central PA
Don't worry about the spine on the butt section, you'll never find it!

jeremy
Flambeauski
Posted 1/15/2015 11:01 AM (#748626 - in reply to #748616)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: Smith Creek
Zib - 1/15/2015 9:46 AM

My concern with using the surf rod for pounders is that the line rating max is 60 LB. I use 100 LB for pounders just in case of a backlash. I wouldn't want to snap the rod due to using line that's heavier than what the rod is rated for. I broke an Okuma rod on a sturgeon partly because I was using line that was heavier than what the rod was rated for. With the surf rod having the moderate-fast action I would think this would maybe allow you to get away with using heavier line but not sure how that softer action would affect hook sets.

 



Don't pay attention to line ratings, you can bust a rod rated up to 100lb with 20 lb line and can catch fish on an ultra lite with 100 lb test.
The lure rating is more significant, 6-16 oz, the highest lure rating of any blank SC builds.
And as to hooksets, simply loading this rod buries hooks. Just make sure you have a netman.
BrianF.
Posted 1/15/2015 11:15 AM (#748632 - in reply to #747734)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Location: Eagan, MN
Sled, 12 foot rod, very interesting. I'm not poo-poo'ing the idea, but have questions re. a rod this long as an option. Wouldn't there be a significant amount of loss of power with the additional length? What you gain with a longer rod is rod tip speed on the hook set. Casting is one thing, but curious how the rod behaved in practice at crunch time...when a fish bit. Were you happy with your results in that respect? Interested in more feedback on fish hooking/fighting performance. Brian
jonnysled
Posted 1/15/2015 11:23 AM (#748634 - in reply to #748632)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods





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Location: minocqua, wi.
make sure your boat is long enough so your netman doesen't have to stand on the motor cowling ... LOL. i only fished this rod 2.5 days and shared it with a couple others who were interested (and building one) and played netman to a hot bait, but i wouldn't worry the least about pinning a fish with the leverage you get with the rod.

boatside swimming and dropping is another benefit with this rod.
Thunderpumper
Posted 1/15/2015 11:49 AM (#748645 - in reply to #748626)
Subject: Re: Pounder rods




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Flambeauski - 1/15/2015 11:01 AM
And as to hooksets, simply loading this rod buries hooks. Just make sure you have a netman.


Agreed. A net man is more or less required.

To sleds last point, figure 8's and boat side swimming may be the greatest strength of using a surf rod.

One thing you do need to be aware of when handling a 12' on shore is low hanging power lines!
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