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lambeau

Posted 12/31/2006 12:57 PM (#228834 - in reply to #228813)
Subject: RE: 2007 PMTT Schedule

Tournament angler cerainly do displace tourism of non-tournament anglers. How can they not?

i'm doubtful that a hotel or restaurant really cares who it is filling up their business and spending money. a hotel can only rent as many rooms as they have...doesn't matter to them if it's a tournament participant or a regular fisherman.

People who don't want to fish in the Twin Cities tourney in Sept. avoid the lakes involved, they go elsewhere.
I personaly know many anglers who now don't fish Cass in Sept. anymore because of all the tournaments there in the past few years.

imho, frequent tournaments in a certain area likely do result in other people going elsewhere at that time. but then again...to the local economy they're still getting customers eating and sleeping and buying gas; they're just different customers. it's only a problem if the tournaments drive away more people than they bring in - and i haven't seen any numbers that suggest that's the case.
when a tournament or other event comes to an area during a non-peak time of the year, it really boosts the local economy. without the 150-person Petenwell tourney every mid-May there would be about 120 less people renting hotel rooms in Wisconsin Rapids (Todd's done some research on this and presented it to the local Chamber of Commerce). or look at Presque Isle when MuskieFirst showed up in late October!

You can believe what you want too, but tournament anglers don't contribute anymore to a local economy than other tourists do.

nor do they cause it to decrease, as you're suggesting.

Tournaments do far less damage to our resources now than they used to, and that is because they have been regulated, not because of the tournament promoters/participants.

Paul Hartman's system is not a result of regulation!
he's a promoter and he's setting the example for responsibly using and sharing the resource.
if regulations (such as size limits) push other tournaments to be equally responsible with their use, i'm glad for those regulations.

Aside from the guys participating in the tourney, nobody else will care either.

there's actually a large number of non-participants who follow tournament result. they seem to care.

sworrall

Posted 12/31/2006 10:55 PM (#228989 - in reply to #228834)
Subject: RE: 2007 PMTT Schedule

Posts: 32954

Location: Rhinelander, Wisconsin

Mr. Skarie,
I quoted actual data and gave the source, you, your opinion.

The testimony given during the DNR hearings here was SPECIFIC to muskie events and money brought in as a result. The Chambers testifying were speaking to what those events brought in, and were VERY direct to the point they have NOTHING they feel will fill the void if those events went elsewhere, hence, they are very insistent that they be able to host events as in the past. Many events mentioned were at the same time as other community events and promotions.

Look at the Mercury Marine National Walleye Tournament statistics. Or don't, it may so strongly contradict your statements as to cause you to have to think about what you are claiming.

MI __________STARTED______ CPR in the Muskie world and propagated that ethic through support from Industry leaders like Mercury Marine. How? The club and International contests, and club tournaments like the Eagle River Spring and Fall events, the Hayward event, the Milwaukee event, the now famous and huge Twin Cities Chapter event and dozens more. It may be you are just too jaded or poorly tempered to see what competitive angling has done for CPR, general awareness of the resource, conservation ethics, growth of the sport, and more, but arguing this with you is a waste of energy so I'll let the facts speak for themselves. Every time you take a cast on hundreds of Muskie waters across the country, you have a GREAT chance of catching a hog originally stocked by a MI club in concert wit the local DNR. The money that bought that fish in many cases was raised through a competitive event.

You make it out to be DNR's across the country having to slap those nasty upstart tournament promoters into line forcing conservation ethics upon them to save the fisheres from certain disaster. FAHHH! That, sir, is garbage.

I don't really care one way or the other if you like tournaments or not, but I DO care if you post inaccurate information about their impact.

Your comment that tournament anglers displace other tourists who would spend the same amount of money is just plain wrong. Give In Fisherman a call, or the FLW with Jim Kalkofen or Charlie Moore at In Fisherman, or Mar Dorn at FLW.

Maybe give Todd Forcier a call, he and his associates raised over $5000 last year alone at the Petenwell event, and ALL that money raised every year goes back to stocking the system with Muskies. Bet that call never gets dialed.

And I STILL think the PMTT schedule looks good....

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