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Pointerpride102
Posted 11/1/2007 3:41 PM (#282432)
Subject: Musky Research Project





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Hey everyone,

Brian Swenson and I are doing a research class for our Water 389 (Hydrology) class. We are going to try and examine how precipitation, weighted by watershed area, effects musky fishing. What we need from you guys is pretty much a musky log from as many years back as you could possibly go. We are looking for a big sample size. Here is the information that we need:

Date the fish was caught mm/dd/yyyy
General location of where the fish was caught, if you are comfortable giving the lake that would help out greatly, but if not at least the nearest city.
Was the fish caught on a Lake or River?
Size of the fish
Bait caught on

If you have extra details such as weather you observed, times you were on the water or anything else I'm sure we could find it useful.

We really need your help on this and would be happy to get everyone that helps out a copy of what we did.

I realize that most logs are probably kept in notebooks, but if you could spare some time and throw it in an excel sheet that would be great.

Please email them to myself or Brian Swenson at:

[email protected]
[email protected]

Thanks guys we really appreciate any help!!
tuffy1
Posted 11/1/2007 4:44 PM (#282446 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: RE: Musky Research Project, I need your help!





Posts: 3240


Location: Racine, Wi
PP, if you're in Muskies Inc, you have a whoooooooole database of info to go from.
lambeau
Posted 11/1/2007 8:07 PM (#282485 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project, I need your help!


definitely use the Muskies Inc database.
it includes everything you're looking for: date, size, lure, location, even weather conditions.
you're even able to sort the database by lake, person, lure, etc. and it's got waaaaay more data than you'll ever be able to collect from people here.
bluegill
Posted 11/1/2007 9:24 PM (#282497 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project




Posts: 199


Location: Sandusky, OH
Don't forget to include 'zeroes' in your database. Zero is a number that is just as valuable to you in your model as catches are. You need fishing logs that report days with no catches to properly represent all success levels for an appropriate statistical comparison of catch rates to environmental conditions. A zero is data too.

You'll also have to use angler proficiency to eliminate the effect of angling ability; you won't be able to lump all catches together. Also, you should be cautioned about using data from the same angler over too long a period. Anglers get better at catching fish (hopefully) over a 10 year period, masking the effect of environmental conditions in your analysis. You might consider using data from only a few select anglers of 'known' ability from a limited time period (maybe the last 5 years if the angler in question has been fishing for 10-20 years) and from two or three specific lakes with varying sizes of watersheds. Otherwise, the results may get too busy and the different effects may confound each other.

Good luck with this; sounds like a fun excersize.

Eric
Derrys
Posted 11/1/2007 9:25 PM (#282498 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project


I agree, well over 200,000 fish registered. Good luck with the project.
By the way, I'm giving out Grants to Chapters of Muskies Inc. for Fisheries, Research and Youth projects. If you're a member of a Muskies Inc. Chapter, you may qualify for a $250.00 Grant. There are a couple of stipulations. Let me know.
Pointerpride102
Posted 11/1/2007 9:27 PM (#282499 - in reply to #282498)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project





Posts: 16632


Location: The desert
Hey Derrys,

Unfortunately I'm not a member of Muskies Inc. So I'll have to figure out a way to log into the database. I'd consider joining just for the grant. What are the stipulations?

By the way...did Brett ever send you that autographed card?? If not let me know and I'll get in touch with him.....
Derrys
Posted 11/1/2007 9:33 PM (#282500 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project


The stipulations are things that the Chapter would have to comply with. Since you're not a current member, it looks like it may not work out. I never did get that auto'd card, but my Favre Rookie card stock is rising. Later Point.
lambeau
Posted 11/2/2007 6:56 AM (#282536 - in reply to #282499)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project


Unfortunately I'm not a member of Muskies Inc. So I'll have to figure out a way to log into the database.

go to the website, join. it's affordable even on a college budget.
you'll get almost immediate access to the "Lunge Log" database.

general website:
http://www.muskiesinc.com/

new member sign-up:
http://www.muskiesinc.com/Default.asp?norelay_hier_id_B87921A0=16&a...
hitchcos
Posted 11/2/2007 7:11 AM (#282544 - in reply to #282432)
Subject: Re: Musky Research Project




Posts: 31


Location: Syracuse, New York
Also, you may want to check with various state agencies. I live in NY and contribute to a DEC program that has multiple anglers log every outing on various bodies of water. Each year i receive extremely detailed records of reported results, including hrs/fish. This might provide an excellent starting point since time/catch is generally a better indication of population and quality then just listing fish caught. As bluegill pointed out, all those zeros are awfully important.
Plus, the records are public info and any contacts you make may help down the road...
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