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adamsnez
Posted 2/7/2011 12:47 PM (#480309)
Subject: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)




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Hey guys, I got a couple of "advanced" questions, nothing generic regarding these types of reels. Just trying to further understand the makeup / insides of baitcasters betters.

1) Situation: ripping "high resistance" baits through the water.
Discussion: I read something about you should hold the spool when ripping the bait, as it's hard on the anti-reverse pawl (both pieces of it). This was to alleviate stress on the parts. Is this true / necessary thing? Does anyone do it, or is this being OVERLY CAUTIOUS about your gear?

2) Topic: Stripping of what [gears]?
Situation: If you are snagged, or have a fish pulling, and you are turning the handle 'freely' where the spool isn't turning because of the applied resistance.
What is happening internally in this situation that isn't "healthy" for the reel, and what parts are being affected here.

3) I've obtained my first conventional reel, a Saltist 2spd. two questions regarding this.
a) when the reel is in freespool mode, and you (for some reason) start cranking the handle, is this bad internally, or is it basically like neutral gear on a car where nothing really happens and safe to "rev"(turn the handle).
b) The drag system I'm not familiar with..... It has "strike" and "full".
What the hell am I setting it to, what do both mean? I'm assuming strike, but I don't get it..... It's winter so i cant even test it out :
THANKS FOR ANY ASNWERS!
Killerbug
Posted 2/7/2011 5:01 PM (#480372 - in reply to #480309)
Subject: RE: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)





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Location: Denmark
I do not have a saltist, so I can't help you with question nr 3, but to nr 1 I would say no, I still haven't destroyed a reel yet doing that, but of course high ressistance baits are relative. And if I do in the furture, il just replace the IAR bearing. On an older reel with the AR clutch, this action is more likely to damage the reel, than with one fitted with an IAR bearing.

To your seccond question I would say that your drag settings should prevent you from being able to damage the reel doing that. But it is most likely, that you will damage the handle before any internals.
adamsnez
Posted 2/7/2011 5:21 PM (#480381 - in reply to #480309)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)




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I should have clarified I guess.... I ALWAYS see people using baitcasters who are new to them, and when they have a fish on, just continually reel in (there's no pump up/reel down action)... So they are sitting there and turning the handle while the spool is stuck dead-locked due to applied resistance.... Seems something inside wouldn't like that.

When you say IAR bearing, is that just a directional/one-way bearing??

And AR-clutch, is this style considered that? (http://www.pnl.gov/contracts/hoist_rigging/images/hoists_jibcranes_image002.jpg) - with the ratchet pawl
cjrich
Posted 2/7/2011 5:31 PM (#480389 - in reply to #480309)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)





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Location: Columbus, Georgia
adamsnez,

Trying to understand your reference as stated: Based upon your observations, is "pumping up and reeling down" something that experienced bait casters do when they have a fish on (rather than continually reeling)?
adamsnez
Posted 2/7/2011 5:37 PM (#480392 - in reply to #480389)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)




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cjrich - 2/7/2011 5:31 PM

adamsnez,

If I am to understand your reference correctly: Based upon your observations, is "pumping up and reeling down" something that experienced bait casters do when they have a fish on (rather than consistently reeling)?



Yes, that and only that.....
I was thinking particularly in regards to landing larger fish [i do a lot of cattin' and without the pullup-reel on way down method, you wont be getting the fish in any time soon].

snide comments not need apply for your next post
cjrich
Posted 2/7/2011 5:41 PM (#480394 - in reply to #480309)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)





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Location: Columbus, Georgia
I have found that the pumping and reeling down is a great way to lose Muskies. Want to avoid any opportunities for slack in the line after the hookset. Nothing snide about it, just my actual experience(s) on the water.

I use Calcutta 401TE's and have never held my thumb on the spool when ripping the baits in question, though i do get the reels serviced during each off-season.

I second what Killerbug has said about the drag settings. You should not have the gears stripping unless you are adjusted all of the way down (or hardly at all). I assume the drag system protects the gears.

Your questions are very good and I look forward to finding out more about this myself.


adamsnez
Posted 2/7/2011 7:26 PM (#480426 - in reply to #480394)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)




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cjrich - 2/7/2011 5:41 PM

I have found that the pumping and reeling down is a great way to lose Muskies. Want to avoid any opportunities for slack in the line after the hookset. Nothing snide about it, just my actual experience(s) on the water.

I realize I'm on a muskie forum, but I dont post on any other fishing sites, so I'm just asking general questions here. Like I said, for larger fish (cats, sturgeon; the slow yet powerful)...
Killerbug
Posted 2/7/2011 7:48 PM (#480432 - in reply to #480381)
Subject: Re: baitcaster topics (advanced Qs)





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Location: Denmark
adamsnez - 2/7/2011 5:21 P

When you say IAR bearing, is that just a directional/one-way bearing??


Yes.

adamsnez - 2/7/2011 5:21 P
And AR-clutch, is this style considered that? (http://www.pnl.gov/contracts/hoist_rigging/images/hoists_jibcranes_image002.jpg) - with the ratchet pawl


In princip yes

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