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Location: Sun Prairie, WI | sworrall - 4/14/2011 10:22 AM And it's also an indication of how easy the vote would be to win if there was a concentrated 'get out and vote' effort extended. Steve makes a solid point here. Each year, I've seen an increase in the number of "antis" attending the hearings in Madison. They speak up, too. Don't know what their turnout was this year, however, as I only voted and didn't sit for the hearings. IMO, with Madison being as liberal as it is, the anti's would have a pretty easy time winning in Dane County if they ever got really organized and concentrated on a 'get out and vote' campaign. |
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Location: APPLETON, WI | Exactly... with the amount of politics that have escalated here in the state of Wisconsin over the course of the last couple of months, the liberals have made it known that they have voices, too. For all of the concentrated efforts they plan, we (as Musky fishermen) should be doing twice as much.
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Location: Eau Claire, WI | PSYS - 4/14/2011 12:01 PM
Exactly... with the amount of politics that have escalated here in the state of Wisconsin over the course of the last couple of months, the liberals have made it known that they have voices, too. For all of the concentrated efforts they plan, we (as Musky fishermen) should be doing twice as much.
If you don't vote - you've no right complaining about anything.
Scott, I'm trying to understand this statement. I think you are trying to equate all liberals with the anti/PETA types. In other words it appears that you think all "liberals" are against hunting/fishing/trapping.
Is that a correct interpretation of your statement?
Thanks,
Jono
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Location: APPLETON, WI | ALL libs? Probably not. But I'd go out on a limb and say most Libs are anti-hunting, anti-trapping, anti-fishing. It's probably safe to say that most Libs vote Democrat. And perhaps we're getting off the beaten path, but your standard anti-gun laws and anti-CCW laws are originated within the Democratic party.
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| The antis could win one, maybe 2 counties, Milwaukee and Dane. Since the tallies are sorted by county I don't see the big deal. Most likely such a movement would become known by sportsman and a strong showing on our part would neutralize their efforts. Secondly these are advisory questions, not binding referendum. We have all seen questions that pass at advisory, but go nowhere. So even if the antis win a question or 2, in 1-2 counties, doesn't mean their wishes will be granted.
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Location: Eau Claire, WI | PSYS - 4/14/2011 12:43 PM
ALL libs? Probably not. But I'd go out on a limb and say most Libs are anti-hunting, anti-trapping, anti-fishing. It's probably safe to say that most Libs vote Democrat. And perhaps we're getting off the beaten path, but your standard anti-gun laws and anti-CCW laws are originated within the Democratic party.
I apologize if I offended you and your political beliefs in anyway.
Thanks for the clarification. I understand.
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| I'd venture to say that if your are pro hunting, pro fishing, and you support the right to own and carry a weapon, you might not be as liberal as you think! |
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| PSYS - 4/14/2011 12:43 PM
ALL libs? Probably not. But I'd go out on a limb and say most Libs are anti-hunting, anti-trapping, anti-fishing. It's probably safe to say that most Libs vote Democrat. And perhaps we're getting off the beaten path, but your standard anti-gun laws and anti-CCW laws are originated within the Democratic party.
Not to get into a discussion about this, but it's probably true that virtually all of the PETA-types are liberals. But it is pretty inaccurate to say that most liberals are PETA-types. I have many friends on both sides of the political aisle, and none of the "liberals" that I know are anti-hunting or anti-fishing. In fact, many if not most of them either hunt or fish, or both.
Fortunately, we have a constitutional amendment here in WI that guarantees the right to hunt, fish, trap and take game. That was passed in 2003...with broad support from both sides of the political spectrum. In fact, then-Governor Doyle was one of the amendment's strongest advocates. |
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| Hmmm. I always thought that muskie fisherman were some of most left leaning fisherman out there. Always calling for more regs, laws and restrictions. Sounds kinda liberal too me. Ultra concerned about the health of the lakes and rivers.
Sounds like a tree hugging liberal Eh? Looking down thier noses at those others and there stinking two strokes. I think I see a liberal agenda here guys LOL! 
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| "Fortunately, we have a constitutional amendment here in WI that guarantees the right to hunt, fish, trap and take game. That was passed in 2003...with broad support from both sides of the political spectrum. In fact, then-Governor Doyle was one of the amendment's strongest advocates."
Thanks Matt. I love how every issue becomes us against them. For the love of musky fishing, can we just have a conversation about issues rather than grouping mass numbers of people? I am assuming there are a wide range of political backgrounds that visit this board and pretty much all of them love to musky fish and have healthy fisheries.....or did I just create a political statement.
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| WOW, so because i kill more stuff than most guys, love to fish, believe in the right to bear arms I am a republican? I guess I voted wrong in the last election.
We paint with a broad brush now don't we...
What am I if I care for the environment, and love to partake in all the above activities?
How about if i do all that and have a wife that is vegan?
I'd say that if you vote based on those few issues you maybe shouldn't vote at all.
Got a news flash for you. NO ONE IS GOING TO TAKE YOUR GUNS! I'd venture to say there'd be quite a turnout in Madison if a legislator on either side of the isle propoesd that one.
Please stop typing silly posts!
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | PSYS - 4/14/2011 12:43 PM
ALL libs? Probably not. But I'd go out on a limb and say most Libs are anti-hunting, anti-trapping, anti-fishing. It's probably safe to say that most Libs vote Democrat. And perhaps we're getting off the beaten path, but your standard anti-gun laws and anti-CCW laws are originated within the Democratic party.
I apologize if I offended you and your political beliefs in anyway.
I'm a "liberal and know many others that wouldn't consider themselves "anti-hunting, anti-trapping, anti-fishing". Your statement is as true as me saying I'd probably go out on a limb and say that most Conservatives are anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-personal decisions, and anti-labor.
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Location: APPLETON, WI | esoxaddict - 4/14/2011 1:45 PM I'd venture to say that if your are pro hunting, pro fishing, and you support the right to own and carry a weapon, you might not be as liberal as you think! Thanks... this is basically all I was getting at. On the MuskieFIRST board and this forum, as far as I'm concerned - we're all musky fishermen. It makes no difference to me if you're white, black, purple or green. And I don't care if you vote Republican or Democrat. And I don't care if you're a leftist liberal sippin' on Kool-Aid or a right-wing extremist drinkin' Tea. Makes no difference if you're a private or public sector worker either. Group hug, everyone. |
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Location: Northwest Chicago Burbs | esoxaddict - 4/14/2011 1:45 PM
I'd venture to say that if your are pro hunting, pro fishing, and you support the right to own and carry a weapon, you might not be as liberal as you think!
And again, you're ignorant. That doesn't mean you are stupid (we've had THAT conversation before) it just means you don't know what you're talking about. |
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